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In Toronto, Christmas Is Out, 'Holiday Tree' Is In
Yahoo News ^ | 11/25/02

Posted on 11/27/2002 7:26:24 AM PST by marshmallow

TORONTO (Reuters) - Christmas is becoming an endangered word in parts of Canada in a rash of politically correct behavior -- such as renaming a Christmas tree a "holiday tree" -- that even non-Christians dismiss as silly.

Toronto city officials began the flap last week when they called the 50-foot (15.2 meter) tree set up outside City Hall a "holiday tree." That sparked much derision and prompted the city's mayor to set the record straight.

"Our special events staff went too far with their political correctness when they called it a holiday tree," said Mayor Mel Lastman. "They were trying to be inclusive and their hearts were in the right place, but you can't be politically correct all the time."

The mayor plans to introduce a motion in city council this week that will officially put the word Christmas in front of the word tree in all future city documents.

The name change led to complaints from Christians and left many non-Christians wondering what all the fuss was about.

"To take a generic term, slap it on a symbol that really only has significance to one religion..and then say we're being multicultural does not really fit," said Anita Bromberg of the Jewish group B'nai Brith Canada. "Whatever you call it, it's still a Christmas tree."

"You're not being inclusive when you try to apply one religious symbol to everybody. You call it what is."

Toronto has become the most multicultural city in Canada, with communities from around the world and residents who speak more than 100 different languages.

"I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve," Ahmed Shoker of the Canadian Islamic Congress in Saskatoon said on Monday. "Everyone has the full right to celebrate in their own way."

Toronto is not alone in its efforts to stress a holiday spirit rather than talking about Christmas.

The Royal Canadian Mint has a commercial in which it changes the old holiday standard "Twelve Days of Christmas" to "Twelve Days of Giving." But Mint spokesman Phil Taylor said the wording was merely meant to "position coins as a great gift for the holidays for whatever faith."

"It's the same kind of over the top political correctness," said Bernie Farber, Ontario executive director of the Canadian Jewish Congress. "There seems to be a fear within certain circles in Canada that people are going to react to Christmas in a negative way. But it's not the case.

"It's time to sort of get on with life, accept everybody for who they are and revel in their holidays as opposed to look for ways to deny people's holidays. It's just plain silly."


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1 posted on 11/27/2002 7:26:24 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Uhhh. Can anybody point out something specifically Christian about the Christmas tree?
2 posted on 11/27/2002 7:36:53 AM PST by Restorer
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To: marshmallow
In looking through the ad flyers in last Sunday's newpaper, I was struck by the lack of the word Christmas in the ads. The word seems to have almost disappeared from view. Most of the flyers (K-Mart, Target, etc.) referred to "holiday trees," "holiday ornaments," "holiday gifts," etc. The word Christmas was no where to be seen. My(homeschooled) kids and I are doing our own little survey on print advertising from now to Christmas to see what percentage we find that actually use the word Christmas.
3 posted on 11/27/2002 7:37:36 AM PST by RightField
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To: marshmallow
In my son's public school newsletter it states that "Winter Parties" are going to be held December 19th. It also states that if you want your child to participate in a alternative to write a note to let your child's teacher know. I went to school when you could sing Christmas songs, make Christmas trees, and have a Christmas party.
4 posted on 11/27/2002 7:41:53 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Restorer
Can anybody point out something specifically Christian about the Christmas tree?

Red herring alert: it's not about the tree, it's about the word Christmas. I guess what comes next is the usual drivel about Christmas being a "pagan" holiday, etc.

The mission of the anti-Christian left, including the mush-headed Liber(al)tarians we often see around here, is to get "Christ" out of "Christmas" (and everywhere else).

DWG

5 posted on 11/27/2002 7:46:27 AM PST by DownWithGreenspan
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To: beaversmom
My wife is a teacher and is employed by the county. At her school no holidays are celebrated nor acknowledged but they did have diversity training last week.
6 posted on 11/27/2002 7:47:47 AM PST by 2right
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To: marshmallow
Our homeschooled sons have participated in a local youth symphony here in southern IN for many years now. Every year - the orchestra participates in the "Holiday Concert" in December. The one positive thing about it though, is the fact that there are still "Christmas" carols and songs performed by the orchestra (mixed in with a few non-traditional pieces).

So - that's one good thing, still - I guess. The thing that I am noticing here in southern IN this year is that there are now 2 major discount stores open on Thanksgiving (K-Mart and Meijers), as well as Walgreens whch has been doing that for some time now. Also - noticed this morning while I was driving one of my sons to a chemistry class - a sign in front of a Mcdonald's saying that it would be open on Thanksgiving Day for breakfast.

It appears that more and more retail stores are remaining open, as well as restaurants on Thanksgiving and Christmas - it's just not what it used to be anymore - sadly!!

Those days are just not... like the ones we used to know.....

7 posted on 11/27/2002 7:51:23 AM PST by MasonGal
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To: Restorer
"Can anybody point out something specifically Christian about the Christmas tree?"

Nope. But that's not the point. We Christians use the Christmas tree in our Christmas celebrations and I want to keep it as a symbol of our religion. They shouldn't have a decorated tree of any sort in their pagan holidays. By golly, we've got dibs on it and they need to go find something else. It's just too bad the Christmas tree is far superior to anything they could come up with.

8 posted on 11/27/2002 7:51:28 AM PST by HetLoo
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To: 2right
Last year I heard two little American girls (have to specify because Americans are a minority at this school) coming home from the school my son now attends talking what they had learned about Cinco De Mayo. I wonder what gets talked about more--4th of July or Cinco de Mayo?
9 posted on 11/27/2002 7:55:00 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: HetLoo
The earliest reference to an evergreen tree being used
as a Christmas symbol is in Germany in 1501. It was seen as
a symbol of life and a symbol of th Paradise Tree. It might not be specifically "Christian" but, I believe, after 500
years of being used as a symbol of Christmas it has earned
the right to be called a Christmas Tree and not a holiday tree.
10 posted on 11/27/2002 8:06:18 AM PST by Russ
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To: marshmallow
Every religion is fine with the PC Multiculturalists, except, of course, the one that mentions the "C" word.
11 posted on 11/27/2002 8:19:55 AM PST by Guillermo
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To: marshmallow
It is the leftist's, N.O.W., liberal, Hillaryisim/DNC, U.N. loving feminists- dream, to eliminate Christ from Christmas.

Winter solice, winter holiday, holiday tree...are all PC terms that I am not shocked Canada is embracing. As I suspect their politics have taken a direct LEFT turn.

Canada signs up for the U.N. Tobin Tax

And I am sure they (if not already) signed up for the ICC and globalization.

12 posted on 11/27/2002 8:20:16 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: marshmallow

POLITIKAL KORRECTNESS OF COMMUNISIM AT IT'S WORST!


13 posted on 11/27/2002 8:22:21 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: DownWithGreenspan
 I guess what comes next is the usual drivel about Christmas
being a "pagan" holiday, etc.

Calling the truth 'drivel' is a liberal tactic.

14 posted on 11/27/2002 10:39:11 AM PST by gcruse
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To: 2right
At her school no holidays are celebrated nor acknowledged but they did have diversity training last week.

So Thanksgiving is just another regular school day?

15 posted on 11/27/2002 10:46:53 AM PST by SwordofTruth
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To: 2right
And the mandated TIME FOR KIDS pamplets printed by a government agency (and PAID for by parents) -3 bucks and a quarter a year- in elementary schools. With political 'diversified' issues are forced on our children-

It is plain and simple PROPAGANDA!!!

BUT GOD FORBID IF CHRISTMAS IS CALLED CHRISTMAS. It is Winter Break (or some schools Winter Solstice)

16 posted on 11/28/2002 7:08:01 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: marshmallow
What is Thanksgiving according to Gore and other leftists DNC communists? ThanksGaia Mother EarthGiving?
17 posted on 11/28/2002 7:26:10 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: RightField
Most of the flyers (K-Mart, Target, etc.) referred to "holiday trees," "holiday ornaments," "holiday gifts," etc. The word Christmas was no where to be seen.

I decided this year I won't be doing business in any store that doesn't acknowledge Christmas.
Sounds as though my shopping excursion is going to be frustrating.

18 posted on 11/28/2002 7:36:34 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

19 posted on 11/28/2002 8:00:53 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Vinnie
I do not know if you have this exact store but I have found that DOLLAR GENERAL stores carry traditional real Christmas cards and use the word CHRISTMAS. So any mom and pop store will probably do the same.

As far as Christmas presents--- that is difficult they have all gone PC, the upscale stores were the first and Wal Mart followed.

20 posted on 11/28/2002 8:04:17 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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