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1 posted on 11/26/2002 9:28:29 AM PST by churchillbuff
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2 posted on 11/26/2002 9:35:22 AM PST by The Obstinate Insomniac
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Has anyone called Congresstrix Pelosi's office for a comment on this issue. Its time to start calling the hag on every issue that will illuminate her leftist agenda. She can't afford to support the Boy Scouts in the People's Republic of Californication, but she will not win the heart's and mind's of the midwest by attacking the BSA.
3 posted on 11/26/2002 9:36:00 AM PST by WilliamWallace1999
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I remember not too many years ago when there was an effort to bankrupt the KKK by taking them to court and making them pay huge damages. The goal was simply to destroy their organization through economic terrorism facilitated by the judicial system.

I wonder if that is what's going on here. The Boy Scouts seem to always win the cases, but the governments (paid for by our tax dollars!) keep relentlessly taking the scouts to court. It's got to be a financial drain -- and maybe that's the ultimate goal. Lord knows the government's pockets are deeper than the Scouts.

4 posted on 11/26/2002 9:36:39 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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I don't think that there is a problem with this as long as the city is treating all organizations with similar viewpoints the same. If the scouts are being singled out then that's wrong.
6 posted on 11/26/2002 9:38:36 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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Sounds like the fagg@ts can do to the little boy scouts

just what they wanted to do in the first place.

8 posted on 11/26/2002 9:41:05 AM PST by Taiwan Bocks
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I was a Sea Explorer back in the day....a great program for boys and girls 13-18 yrs old!
Many of our group went on to join the military.

I joined the Marine Corps out of High School and am now helping to run another excellent youth program -- the Young Marines (for boys and girls 8-18yrs old).

Hope the Sea Scouts can fight this or find a better place to be.
10 posted on 11/26/2002 9:49:15 AM PST by MudPuppy
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Berkeley has a marina?!? What do they park there, whales?
13 posted on 11/26/2002 9:56:48 AM PST by mhking
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There was another tie: an informal deal, "rocks for docks," in which the Scouts allowed Berkeley to take rocks from one of their camps to create fill at the marina in exchange for the free berths.

If I owned a construction company I would donate the heavy equipment needed for the Scouts to take BACK their rocks!!!

18 posted on 11/26/2002 10:07:29 AM PST by laker_dad
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So much for tolerance.
22 posted on 11/26/2002 10:10:48 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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The Sea Scouts are no longer entitled to a free berth at Berkeley's marina...in a decision that lets the city enforce its policy of nondiscrimination toward homosexuals against an affiliate of the adamantly anti-gay Boy Scouts

What kind of BS is this sentence? The Boy Scouts are adamantly anti-gay? Last I heard, they do not engage in witch hunts, do not award merit badges for queer-bashing, do not even ask prospective Scouts if they are homosexual.

Anyway, this Scout-bashing has little to do with the rights of a microscopic percentage of Scouts or Scout leaders who may be gay. The homosexuals are on a selfish, scorched-earth mission to prove to everyone that they are like the rest of us. That's all this is about. But they are not like the rest of us.

24 posted on 11/26/2002 10:12:59 AM PST by GSWarrior
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The Scouts are under attack.

http://paganwiccan.about.com/library/weekly/aa111402spiralscouts.htm

http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/epaper/editions/tuesday/opinion_d39ddd9cb0d9716100da.html

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/editorial/4544322.htm

http://www.pnnonline.org/article.php?sid=756&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

http://www.austin360.com/aas/news/ap/ap_story.html/National/AP.V4344.AP-Boy-Scouts.html

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/021107d.asp

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200210\CUL20021030a.html


http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=\Culture\archive\200210\CUL20021031b.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/134564883_boyscout29m.html


http://people.aol.com/people/news/now/0,10958,364602,00.html

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/5372312p-6360508c.html
31 posted on 11/26/2002 10:50:51 AM PST by Coleus
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So, does this mean that Berkeley is going to discriminate against the Boy Scouts because the Boy Scouts discriminate against homosexuals?
33 posted on 11/26/2002 11:08:56 AM PST by ladtx
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One Sea Scout vessel -- the Farallon -- remained at the marina, paying the annual fee of about $500 that most private parties pay. But a group of Scouts and their parents joined the Farallon's skipper in suing for breach of contract and violation of their constitutional rights.

S.S.S. Farallon
California
Mount Diablo Silverado Council
Sea Scout Ship Farallon (44)
Sea Scout Ship Farallon Inc.
P.O. Box 184
El Cerrito, California 94530
Skipper:
Gene Evans
Telephone: 510-448-8444


SSS Farallon I'm not sure if this is the scout ship in question, but this is what I found on the web.

34 posted on 11/26/2002 11:14:51 AM PST by Frohickey
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This is wonderful.... Boy Scouts will no longer be harrassed by yet even more Seamen.
41 posted on 11/26/2002 11:55:45 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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I remember many years ago when I discovered that a local YWCA was controlled by militant feminists who used the Y's facilities to promote abortion and other left-wing feminist causes. The women who ran the center were atheists, some were Jewish, and none had any sympathy whatsoever for Christianity. If/when the Boy Scouts drop their ban on homosexuals and their requirement for a belief in God, the organization will slowly but surely be transformed, just as that YWCA was many years ago. It will eventually be turned on its head to espouse values totally contrary to those of its founders. That is what is at stake in these controversies.
42 posted on 11/26/2002 12:02:07 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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Sad but not surprising. It just amazes me that liberals think it's a good idea to pick on boy scouts.
48 posted on 11/26/2002 2:58:50 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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Seems like it is ok for the ANTI-SEA SCOUT GAYS to discriminate against ANTI-GAY SEA SCOUTS but not vice-versa. I thought the SCOTUS decided this kind of freedom of association case last year? PC gone amok! Insanity reigns!
49 posted on 11/26/2002 3:07:59 PM PST by PISANO
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Who do we make a check out to for private funding contributions?
50 posted on 11/26/2002 3:09:04 PM PST by WaveThatFlag
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I agree- they have the right to deny free marina fees.
54 posted on 11/26/2002 4:53:46 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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Another self-inflicted torpedo hit in the USS Liberal!
60 posted on 11/27/2002 9:38:15 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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