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1 posted on 11/25/2002 2:26:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you for reading my mind, but stating it far more eloquently than I would've.
2 posted on 11/25/2002 2:30:30 PM PST by perfect stranger
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Seen one of their threads, seen them all.
3 posted on 11/25/2002 2:31:31 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Damn . . . I was hoping to convince a bunch of them that their Democratic Underground contributions should be sent to the following address:

FreeRepublic, LLC
PO BOX 9771
FRESNO, CA 93794

:)

4 posted on 11/25/2002 2:31:59 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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aw c'mon :> I like reading the rantings of psychos and those forgetful indivduals who have not taken their meds for the day
5 posted on 11/25/2002 2:32:21 PM PST by KantianBurke
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To: Jim Robinson
Ditto Jim, I have never logged there, my home is here.
6 posted on 11/25/2002 2:33:33 PM PST by boomop1
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I've always believed the best strategy is to lead with your ideas, rather than stop to tear someone else's down.

We'll beat them on the facts hands down, every time.

If they want us, they know where to find us.

They might even learn something.

9 posted on 11/25/2002 2:35:11 PM PST by IncPen
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To: Jim Robinson; JohnHuang2
Thanks, Jim!

Both for this and for EVERYTHING that you do for us.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours ..... and God bless you!

John ~~~ can you help spread the word?

10 posted on 11/25/2002 2:35:28 PM PST by kayak
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Enough with the vanities!!!

Don't ban me.

14 posted on 11/25/2002 2:39:25 PM PST by Straight Vermonter
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Roger that. If you do visit that site, a barf bag is recommended.
16 posted on 11/25/2002 2:40:22 PM PST by ambrose
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Isn't this a duplicate post?
17 posted on 11/25/2002 2:41:12 PM PST by AppyPappy
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Does FR ban any lib, or anyone posting "liberal ideas"?
Heck, I'd like them to stick around if they can stay within the posting rules. Of course, that's the problem, they cannot argue their points without resorting to profanity and name-calling.
18 posted on 11/25/2002 2:41:55 PM PST by MrB
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DUBUMP
19 posted on 11/25/2002 2:43:29 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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We ban them anytime they register here. It's a fact. Very few people here are interested in reading the DU style spin and regurgitated propaganda. Those of you who want to rattle their cages are welcome to it, but please do not drag any of their garbage back to FR and please do not bother posting vanities about your experiences with them. It's not wanted here and will be deleted.

There are some pretty scary lines in there considering this site calls itself "Free Republic." It seems that bad ideas, poor analysis, and wasteful vanities are permitted here regularly. I don't see why the reposting of DU trash is any different.

It seems we play their game of being the false guarantors of free speech by banning and deleting. I would think we here at "Free Republic" are above that.

21 posted on 11/25/2002 2:44:12 PM PST by Iron Eagle
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In a sense, I sometimes find the rantings of loonies to be entertaining, but I have to admit that my two or three excursions into the D.U. asylum have been unfulfilling. After five minutes, I was overcome by boredom. Nothing to see there; just move along.
24 posted on 11/25/2002 2:50:50 PM PST by San Jacinto
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>>>... please do not drag any of their garbage back to FR and please do not bother posting vanities about your experiences with them. It's not wanted here and will be deleted.

My thoughts exactly. Thanks Jim.

26 posted on 11/25/2002 2:53:32 PM PST by Reagan Man
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I wrote this to someone who had been on DU and wanted to know more about Free Republic about two weeks ago ...

I was a Democrat for 30+ years and a member of DU for over 2 years. I worked for various Democratic campaigns donated money ETC.

My first post on Free Republic was the follwing:

The night after the election I posted on DU to say what I thought went wrong with the election. I posted on DU that:

1. The Democratic Party needs to rid itself of the extremists (Communists)
2. That the Democrats need to re-establish ethics and honesty in their politics (Yes that means ...no more Oval Office BJ's)
3. Use a more common sense and a little less PC
4. Do NOT fight between ourselves.
5. Realize that we are not always right.
6. Enter into honest debate with those with differenting opinion.

For that I was promptly called a "Freeper" and banned from Democratic Underground though I have been there for over 2 years and have been a Democrat since 1969.

I feel that the Democratic Party has been highjacked by extremists and that if they feel that I am now a "Freeper" that I should come over here and see if I can enter into honest discord with the people over here. I promise not to use profanity or call people names and to debate with sincerity. Can I stay, or will I be banned from here too?

Heart broken by Democratic Underground

The Democrat party has been highjacked by extremists who worship Bill Clinton as their divine deity. In their eyes since he is their deity he can do no wrong because he does NOT answer to man's law. ANY dissent ANY wavering from the Bill Clinton religion on any of the Democratic web sites is met with swift and certain banishment.
There is NO discussion or questioning allowed. Remember that this is ALL they can do to dissenters for the moment. Should they ever be put in a position where more could be done, swift execution for that same dissent, how ever slight, would be the penalty. The Democratic Party has become the party of evil. Those of us who have fought to bring the party back from the extreme left have been met with viciousness and hatred as if we were the enemy when in fact we once were it's backbone.
Let it be known that the Democratic party in it's present form DOES NOT represent the beliefs morals nor ideology of those who were Democrats before the communists/socialists highjacked the party.

Old time Democrats only differ from conservatives on a few issues. What we old time Democrats do share with conservatives is our love of and commitment to a strong viable and free America.

Please do not view me and/or other like Democrats in the same light as those who hate America and work for it's downfall. We in fact wish to work with you to rid our party and our country of those who wish evil upon it.

You should know that I have been out here on Free Republic for a week now and I though I have said without hiding ANYTHING that I am a Democrat and an ex-DUer ... I have been met by nothing but warm friendship and have engaged in honest and enlightening discussion. I personally feel that I have found a new home with caring and open people who, as long as we do not resort to the disruptive BS that DU is known for ... have opened their web site home to we who may have differenting opinions.
They seem to feel ... as I .. that those different opinions are valued in our collective (please forgive the word) political education and are NOT squelched. I am sure that you too ... if you use good manners and use NO profanity and do NOT disrupt will be met with the same warm hospitality that these wonderful people have afforded me.

28 posted on 11/25/2002 2:54:33 PM PST by 1redshirt
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As Founder, President and CEO of the Snake65 Cesspool Sucking Service I object to your characterization of the DU as a "cesspool." A cesspool plays a useful role in society by collecting and then breaking down human waste, keeping it out of sight and mind. DU, I would argue, does quite the opposite.
30 posted on 11/25/2002 3:04:20 PM PST by Snake65
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I have to admit, it has been fun to lurk over there since the election. Those folks are truly nuts. Decided against posting (didn't want to break my... "don't argue with an idiot" rule) but its been fun to watch them writhe.

Besides being the looney left, I have been amazed at the hate and vulgarity. I'm no language prude, but I would be embarrased to type some of the stuff I've seen over there.
42 posted on 11/25/2002 3:18:55 PM PST by pdlglm
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44 posted on 11/25/2002 3:19:15 PM PST by AdA$tra
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We ban them anytime they register here.

I hope you don't ban them just for being DU'ers. Definitely ban them if they are disruptors, who post character attacks or incendiary lies or obscenities or engage in other tactics designed to preclude reasoned debate and commentary. Usual those instances are pretty obvious, and I've certainly notified the Moderators myself when a blatant situation such as that arises.

But someone with a liberal viewpoint who provides fair commentary along with facts and links to articles and other information can be very valuable. It is unfortunate that there aren't more "honest" liberals who are willing to engage in honest debate. The reason is that they generally get their clocks cleaned on this site; facts and logic are not terribly favorable to liberal dogma. (As Larry Elder likes to say, facts are to liberals as Kryptonite is to Superman.)

Once in a while I'll visit the DU site just to see what they are obsessing over. The most striking characteristic of their threads is the almost total lack of negative feedback. If facts are wrong but nevertheless pleasant (at least from their point of view), there is seldom anyone around to correct those errors. Urban myths which have long since been exploded just keep being recycled over there. And on rare occassions when someone does try to post a correction or link to a contrary article, that person is immediately branded a Freeper or a traitor for making them feel bad.

In contrast, Free Republic acts as a news filter. If someone posts an article on FR that is highly favorable towards conservatives or Republicans, or highly unfavorable towards liberals or Democrats, but is nevertheless based on total bullsh!t, that thread will quickly be debunked by swarms of other Freepers. That's our great strength and DU's great weakness.

47 posted on 11/25/2002 3:21:56 PM PST by dpwiener
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