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Right wing's strength in talk radio, new media frustrates Democrats ("Dangerous Tone")
The Plain Dealer ^ | 11/24/02 | Mark O'Keefe

Posted on 11/24/2002 6:50:29 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

In an updated critique of what Hillary Clinton once called the vast, right-wing conspiracy, Democrats are complaining bitterly about the power of a loose-knit network of conservative media voices.

Outgoing Senate Majority leader Tom Daschle blasts radio host Rush Limbaugh and "Limbaugh wannabees" for what he considers a shrill and dangerous tone. Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois, one of a new group of senators trying to reposition the Democrats in the wake of the Nov. 5 elections, tells National Public Radio that his party is struggling to overcome "station after station" of "right-wing screamers."

The complaints, which conservatives attribute to bitterness over losing, are a reaction to a gradual shift of political and media realities.

The days when the Associated Press, three major television networks and East Coast newspapers led by The Washington Post and The New York Times dominated the flow of political news are gone. Technological advances have spawned "narrowcasting" in which political communication can be tailored to niche audiences through cable channels, local radio stations and Web sites - all seemingly dominated by conservatives.

"Conservatives understand that so many Americans want their news when they want it and the way they want it. Conservatives are better marketers. They use all the tools of mass marketing better than liberals," said Michael Parks, director of the School of Journalism at the University of Southern California's Annenberg School for Communication.

"In a sense, it may be that Democrats are still rooted in a kind of populist culture, and they haven't realized everyone is going over to niches," added Parks, a Pulitzer Prize-winning correspondent and former editor with The Los Angeles Times.

"Why do people go to niches? It's because there's so much news and information out there and the news consumer wants somebody who will give him or her a unique take on the world so they don't have to drink from the fire hose."

In a news conference Wednesday, Daschle, a South Dakota Democrat, lashed out at Limbaugh and other talk-show conservatives for fueling "an emotional movement in this country among some people who don't know the difference between entertainment and politics, and who are then so energized as to go out and hurt somebody."

Daschle did not provide specific examples of violence, except to say that when Limbaugh called him an "obstructionist" he and his family had worried.

Daschle lamented what he called a blurring of "entertainment and politics" by Limbaugh and other conservatives who use humor to make their points and said Democrats have concluded "we have to have the same edge that Republicans do."

Limbaugh, on his nationally syndicated, top-rated show, said Wednesday that the Democrats' real problem is that people no longer have to rely on the "leftist" big three TV networks and Eastern newspapers, led by The New York Times.

"Their allies aren't good enough anymore," Limbaugh said.

On the country's second-ranked radio talk show, Sen. Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican, told conservative host Sean Hannity that talk radio gave Republicans the winning edge in the election.

"I thank my father in heaven every day for people like you, Rush Limbaugh and others," Hatch told Hannity, who also has a show on the Fox News Channel.

Ralph Neas, president of the liberal People for the American Way, a Washington-based advocacy group, has witnessed the power of conservative media as his organization works against congressional confirmation of conservative judges.

"What we see now is an incredible echo chamber," Neas said. "You get a Wall Street Journal editorial in the morning. You then hear about it that day on talk radio and talk TV. It goes up on Web sites and it's debated in Internet chat rooms across the country.

"You add up all those niches and it reaches a lot of people. I think the progressive community has to face the reality, especially about talk radio and talk TV, and perhaps put together our own TV shows."

The emerging conservative media aren't new. In 1998, in the midst of the Monica Lewinsky scandal, Hillary Clinton blamed her husband's problems on a "vast right-wing conspiracy."

One of the few journalists ever named by the Clinton White House as part of such a conspir acy is Joseph Farah, then editor of The Sacramento Union and founder of the California- based Western Journalism Center, founded to fight what it saw as liberal media bias.

Farah launched WorldNetDaily (www.worldnetdaily.com) in 1997. It now has more than 3 million visitors a month and employs a dozen full-time editorial employees at headquarters in Cave Junction, Ore., and an office in Washington. The site is a frequently used bookmark for conservative talk radio hosts, and Farah and his reporters often are radio guests.

What Farah saw as a liberal media monopoly has been broken, but in his view, not beaten.

"Look at the numbers of people watching Peter Jennings, Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather on the major network newscasts," he said. "There's still no comparison to Fox News and Web sites like ours. The battle is far from over. To start celebrating is very, very premature because this is still a David and Goliath struggle."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; daschle; hannity; rightwingconspiracy; rush
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
There is absolutely nothing stopping liberals from supporting their own commercial talk show hosts. Why don't they? Well one reason is that they have the monopoly on public radio talk show hosts. If they are not as overt as people like Limbaugh etal, the constant stream of left-wing guests makes it obvious where their political sympathies lie.
21 posted on 11/24/2002 8:15:17 AM PST by driftless
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To: Tacis
bump and repeat
22 posted on 11/24/2002 8:22:46 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Cancer and dementia are said to be 'progressive' at times.

23 posted on 11/24/2002 8:29:26 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The time has come for newspapers like "The Plain Dealer" and the hundreds of left-leaning newspapers to do it the British way. Tell us the truth--you are socialist newspapers.

You see when you tell people the truth then even when they disagree with you they respect you. If you try to hide behind claims of "objectivity" and "fairness" you are soon recognized for the frauds you are.

Now the TV networks have a different problem because if they revealed their socialist bias they would be de-licensed by the FCC as not being in the public interest. So I guess until the Pubbies get some cojones and order the FCC to pull all of network television's broadcast licenses then the networks news anchors will get up there and lie lie lie as they have for the past fifty years.
24 posted on 11/24/2002 8:29:46 AM PST by cgbg
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"and perhaps put together our own TV shows."

Oh yeah; that'll work. Does it never cross their one-track minds that they don't have successful shows because nobody listens to them? Who wants to listen to endless blathering about non-substantial "issues" by moronic, self-agrandising powermongers?


25 posted on 11/24/2002 8:29:49 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The time has come for newspapers like "The Plain Dealer" and the hundreds of left-leaning newspapers to do it the British way. Tell us the truth--you are socialist newspapers.

You see when you tell people the truth then even when they disagree with you they respect you. If you try to hide behind claims of "objectivity" and "fairness" you are soon recognized for the frauds you are.

Now the TV networks have a different problem because if they revealed their socialist bias they would be de-licensed by the FCC as not being in the public interest. So I guess until the Pubbies get some cojones and order the FCC to pull all of network television's broadcast licenses then the networks news anchors will get up there and lie lie lie as they have for the past fifty years.
26 posted on 11/24/2002 8:30:12 AM PST by cgbg
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Daschle did not provide specific examples of violence, except to say that when Limbaugh called him an "obstructionist" he and his family had worried.

And only Fox News has had the guts to mention that when Daschle was saying this he had a poster behind him that was titled "Republican Obstructionism"!

Such a damned hypocrite.

27 posted on 11/24/2002 8:31:04 AM PST by jackbill
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Hillary Clinton blamed her husband's problems on a "vast right-wing conspiracy.

Klintons problems are now the 'Rats problems.

28 posted on 11/24/2002 8:34:34 AM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This is a 'softening-up' bombardment to usher in calls for limiting talk radio or in some way resurrecting the 'Fairness Doctrine' by which air time will be mandated for 'liberal' views on free market outlets.

It is my view that conservative response shouldn't be to repond to the idiocy of this feint. Instead, let's agitate for defunding of the leftist propaganda strongholds. It is public dollars that keep alive NPR, PBS and the clearing agencies like the Legal Services Corporation from which seed money and operational funds for scads of leftist organizations and projects is shoveled out by the federal government.

This kind of offensive carries this conflict back into the leftist end-zone and strikes at their publically funded infrastructure. In this way, these specious campaigns against talk radio would be derailed (like - right now), and the real conflict can be joined and fought. That is, killing off the sources and support of institutional leftism.

In this climate of uncertain economic trends, I believe the public sympathies would be, at worst, neutral and, at best, positive if government jobs relating to these activities were terminated and budget monies freed up from 'entertainment' purposes for use in the conduct of legitimate government purposes.

As added bonuses, the conservative base will be energized by spectacular hits on what is instinctively known as the Pravda of American politics and the lefty base will be demoralized and propelled into ever more shrill hysterics against government 'suppression' and the like.

Seems like a plan to me. I would appreciate input and criticism.

29 posted on 11/24/2002 8:43:44 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: sweetliberty
Did you hear Rush's parody of the Tom Daschle radio show a few days ago?? I usually smile when he has his parodys, this on had me laughing out loud.
I couldn't do it justice trying to describe it. Tom was very lonely for an hour, then McCain called in. It was Rush's best IMHO.
30 posted on 11/24/2002 8:45:06 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: MotleyGirl70
Juan Williams gets on my nerves.

Me too. He sleeps in the left camp.

31 posted on 11/24/2002 8:50:04 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: sauropod
Poor little Dickie Durbin.....


32 posted on 11/24/2002 8:50:26 AM PST by KLT
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To: driftless
That's so true! They hide behind this lie of being at the center and being "objective" yet their perspective to the discerning eye is very far left. I think this hiding in the press is really a weakness because of their lack of a rational well thought-out spokesman. Theirs is a devious and cowardly position, unlike most of the conservative talk shows and sites who don't hide their positions and make points with logical arguments and facts, something the dems can't seem to counter. Thank God for FreeRepublic!
33 posted on 11/24/2002 8:55:04 AM PST by patriot5186
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To: WorkingClassFilth
It is my view that conservative response shouldn't be to repond to the idiocy of this feint. Instead, let's agitate for defunding of the leftist propaganda strongholds. It is public dollars that keep alive NPR, PBS and the clearing agencies like the Legal Services Corporation from which seed money and operational funds for scads of leftist organizations and projects is shoveled out by the federal government.

I agree... Rush and the others are doing a fine job of defending themselves with humor, laughter, and playing back the very words of the Left- they don't need our help. In fact, they would probably do better in the public's eye if we weren't associated too closely.

34 posted on 11/24/2002 8:57:30 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Limbaugh, on his nationally syndicated, top-rated show, said Wednesday that the Democrats' real problem is that people no longer have to rely on the "leftist" big three TV networks and Eastern newspapers, led by The New York Times."

Amen. I think the horse is out of the barn. The only thing left for us to do is lead all other conservatives to our "home bases." There are many out there who are searching for the truth but still don't know where to find it. Spread the word.

I have www.freerepublic.com cards that I hand out when appropriate.

35 posted on 11/24/2002 8:58:40 AM PST by blam
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Left-wing politicians complaining about others being too shrill, this is just too damn funny. What a bunch of hypocrits.
36 posted on 11/24/2002 8:59:43 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Vinnie
Yes, I thought Rush's Daschle parody was hilarious--because it had so much truth in it.

This illustrates why the left still doesn't and won't ever get it:

Conservatives are better marketers. They use all the tools of mass marketing better than liberals," said Michael Parks, director of the School of Journalism at the University of Southern California's Annenberg School for Communication.

The left insists that it's the "marketing", the "packaging", the "entertainment" that makes conservative talk radio successful.

The truth that liberals will not credit for the success of folks like Rush and Hannity is the MESSAGE. It's the big elephant (pun intended) in the living room.

The conservative message is upbeat, positive, encouraging, appreciative of individual incentive and persistence to solve problems.

The liberal message is doom and gloom, the world's going to hell in a handbasket, you can't do it yourself, you need our help, the government is the answer to all our problems. Who wants to listen to that drivel for hours on end??!!

37 posted on 11/24/2002 9:01:50 AM PST by randita
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Demo-roachs scatter when the light goes on....
they hate FOX too, for the same reason, even though FOX network is RINO infested....
38 posted on 11/24/2002 9:06:00 AM PST by hosepipe
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To: Vinnie
No, I missed it, but I just have to hear it so I am probably going down to Budge's tomorrow and listening to it on Rush 24/7. Was that the day right after Tiny Tommy's "fit" or the day after that with the FR doctored photo of of Rush dangling baby Tommy over the balcony?
40 posted on 11/24/2002 9:14:14 AM PST by sweetliberty
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