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Fearful Boers flee to South Africa's last white enclave
The Sunday Telegraph ^
| November 24, 2002
| Jane Flanagan
Posted on 11/23/2002 4:50:53 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
"whereas the old nationalist rulers advocated racial separation yet relied on cheap black labor, the oranians are prepared to get their hands dirty"
One of the great dilemmas which western civilization has always faced is this: we generally create prosperous societies with growing economies, yet never have large enough birth rates to maintain a healthy labor market. This always results in the importation of large numbers of people from other cultures to do much of the manual labor.
Inevitably, the imported laborers rebel against "unjust" social systems which they find in these societies. This occured in Rome and the South...and is now occuring in Europe, Israel, the US Southwest, and across the Western world in general.
The choice is simple: do the work yourself (and have enough children to supply a growing economy's labor needs), or face displacement, social upheaval, crime, etc at the hands of the imported workers.
To: CWRWinger; F-117A
To: MadIvan
PC will not solve the problem...its all an unsolvable problem of genetics.
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posted on
11/23/2002 5:48:43 PM PST
by
rmvh
To: MadIvan
When the last whites in Africa are expelled or murdered. Who can the Africans blame for their multitude of problems? BTW, ir happened in Haiti, where 6,000 whites were lynched on a single day. Of course, liberals never mention it.
To: holyscroller
"They are going to need all of the help they can get when the worm turns. And turn it will."
The ANC cannot allow this sort of thing to take root. It defeats the whole purpose of their takeover of the nation. The blacks in SA could have negotiated an independent, black-ruled nation on part of SA's territory at any time. What they held out for was total control of all of SA. The whites must remain in the same polity dominated by the ANC so that the ANC govt can milk them to finance the country (and to provide wealth to bilk from the public treasury).
The cow cannot be allowed to escape from the barnyard. Who will provide the milk?
To: quebecois
There is some truth in what you say, but there is one statement which is in error.
There were never any large scale rebellions in the South by slaves even during the war. A couple of well publicized ones which were actually very minor.
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posted on
11/23/2002 5:56:59 PM PST
by
yarddog
To: FreedomPoster; CWRWinger
Thanks for the link - great information!
While the 7mm was the standard weapon, I suspect that the Boers used plenty of British weapons and ammunition.
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posted on
11/23/2002 5:58:00 PM PST
by
F-117A
To: MadIvan
Sadly you are correct that this will be the last laager for the Boers , already the black run government of the country is being pressured to start Mugabe style land reform . The increase in murders of Boer farmers aint helping the agricultural problems any . When the farmers that actually know what they are doing get burned out,murdered or otherwise dispossesed the area know as Orania will be laid seige to & its inhabitants killed, quickly if they are lucky.
To: yarddog
I am pretty surprised that there hasn't already been a guerilla war against the Commies. I guess one reason is if they won, then the whole world would make war against them. The following is a comment on the recent bombings in South Africa.
"First of all that it is the rightwing that is responsible for the bombings is highly speculative but one of the most likely possibilities. If it was the rightwing that was responsible for the bombings, then a new era has started in South Africa. It will be an era where pockets of the white Afrikaans people are becoming militant.
This alone deserves serious consideration. For the past decades the white Afrikaans community was mostly passive in their objections to the NP governments decline and eventual handover to the ANC led government. The Afrikaner is a minority in South Africa not even 10% of the total population. Masses of the Afrikaners have moved overseas in what is called in some circles the Afrikaner Diaspora. London is rumored to have an Afrikaner population of over 300,000. The numbers of Afrikaners that has left for Australia and in particular Perth has caused the area to be satirically referred to as one of the South African provinces. The Afrikaans speaking in London and some other major cities in the world has increased in numbers so much that Afrikaans cultural festivals have been organized there with great success.
In Canada some areas have not seen a Canadian doctor in over six years. Medical doctors from South Africa mostly Afrikaans immigrated to Canada in such numbers that the South African government demanded compensation.
The question must be asked then why does Afrikaners feel so alienated in their country of birth that they move to other countries? And what is the reaction of those who are not willing to make the leap to leave the country?"
The rest of the article
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posted on
11/23/2002 6:15:47 PM PST
by
F-117A
To: F-117A
FWIW, South Africans, in particular South African Jews, have been getting while the getting was good, to Atlanta, for 20 years+.
When we bought our first house, we because good friends with our across the street neighbors, who were Jewish. We joked that we were the token gentiles at Yom Kippur breakfast. Through our neighbors, we met quite a number of Jews from South Africa, and came to understand there was quite a number of them in Atlanta.
A business associate at that time told me that he knew quite a few Jews who had bailed from South Africa. They lived in the same apartments as he, when he first moved to Atlanta.
Some years later, I ended up with a project manager who was a Jewish South African emigre, who confirmed these earlier experiences.
Some folks smell the wind early.
To: F-117A
If the Boers doctored their bullets it was probably to try to match the horrendous wound profile created by the .303 bullet. The .303 has a hard jacket and does not expand, but it has a hollow cavity near the front of the bullet that makes it butt-heavy and prone to upsetting upon impact. In other words they go in straight and come out sideways or backwards. They tear up a lot of meat!
If the Boers really cut crosses in the tips of their 7mm mauser bullets like in Breaker Morant they would have been sacrificing precious accuracy in what was about the most accurate and flat-shooting cartridge of its day. The Boers are so rifle-savvy that I really doubt many of them would choose to mess up their ammo this way.
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posted on
11/23/2002 6:26:08 PM PST
by
SBprone
To: SBprone
I take it back about the .303. The spitzer-pointed bullet used in WWs I and II had that hollow cavity but I think that back in the Boer was the Brits were probably still using round-nose solid jacketed bullets like almost every other country at that time. The US didn't go to spitzer points til 1906. Springfields had to be rechambered or rebarreled for the new round.
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posted on
11/23/2002 6:37:12 PM PST
by
SBprone
To: MadIvan
Things are very bad now, but you wait - when Nelson Mandela dies there will be nothing but chaos. I will celebrate on that day, which couldn't come soon enough.
To: CWRWinger
To make a dum-dum, simply cut a cross into the nose of a lead bullet. It will split when it hits the target.
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posted on
11/23/2002 7:04:15 PM PST
by
Clive
To: MadIvan
Truth time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know just WHO is moving there ; however, I don't know a single Afrikaner family ( nor do the ones I know, know of any), who is moving there.
Will they eventually be driven out ? YES, I THINK SO. Do they have anywhere that they can go ? NOT REALLY.
To: quebecois
>and have enough children to supply a growing economy's labor needs), or face displacement,
I remember back in Public Jr. High school, 99% White ( in the early 70's ), we were told not to have only 1 or 2 kids because of over-population was going to destroy the world. Where are these Marxist teachers now that the 3rd Worlders are over-populating the world? ( I'm really sore about this now )
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posted on
11/23/2002 8:54:08 PM PST
by
Missouri
To: Nebr FAL owner
Mbeki said,
LAST YEAR ( prior to the full onslaught of Mugabe's thugs, in Zimbabwe ) that ALL white held land ( that includes businesses ! ) would be taken over by blacks ( read ANC members and top supporters ONLY and exclude all OTHERS ! ), in three years. Thus far, nothing much has happened.
The Boer farmers, have been threatened and murdered, in larger numbers and for FAR longer ( since the ANC took over ), than what has been done in Zimbabwe. This is NOT something " new ", nor even all that much imfluenced by Mugabe. It's just that most Westerners have never heard about it.
The ANC has also gone after the Zulus ( they are mostly Xhosias and were once the slaves of the Zulus. Also, they , unlike the Zulus , have been courted and trained by COMMIES , for 70 years ! )and have unfortunately, been able to divide and , to some extent, conquer them .
To: MadIvan
Thy're gonna new a few more folks if they want to stay alive. Like a few hundred thousand more folks.
To: rmvh
Not genetics, culture.
To: FreedomPoster
FWIW, South Africans, in particular South African Jews, have been getting while the getting was good, to Atlanta, for 20 years+. To the Jewish enclaves in South Florida as well. My parents (the token gentiles in their community) have a couple South African Jewish neighbors in their development in Boca Raton.
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posted on
11/23/2002 9:10:35 PM PST
by
Clemenza
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