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China's Super Kids
nytimes ^ | November 22, 2002 | NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

Posted on 11/22/2002 2:18:32 PM PST by dennisw

China's Super Kids

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

SHANGHAI

Quick, what's 6 + 8 - 7 + 6 + 5?

If you knew instantaneously that the answer is 18, without having to pause even a second, then congratulations! You're as bright as a Shanghai kindergarten student — calculating in his or her third language.

I've met the future, and it is these kids. Americans who come to China tend to be most dazzled by glittering new skyscrapers like the 1,380-foot Jin Mao Tower, but the most awesome aspect of China's modernization is the education that children are getting in the big cities. And the long-run competitive challenge we Americans face from China will have less to do with its skylines, army or industry than with its Super Kids, like Tony Xu.

Tony's real name is Xu Jun, but all the children entering the New Century Kindergarten that he attends get English names as well. Six-year-old Tony's first languages are Mandarin Chinese and Shanghainese, but even in English he rattled off answers to equations faster than I could. It was embarrassing when I posed my own question to him, 10 + 5 - 1 - 4 + 5, and he answered 15 before I could tell if he was right. I want a refund on my college tuition.

Parents pay about $2,000, a huge sum here, to send a child to a year of such a private kindergarten. But since urban Chinese families now have only one child each, no expense is too great for one's "little emperor." Throughout China, first-rate private schools are popping up, as the Chinese saying goes, like bamboo shoots after a spring rain.

Of course Chinese education is still hobbled by rural mud-brick schools that are in a shambles, by peasants who pull their daughters out of school, by third-rate universities. But China's great strength is that in the cities, it increasingly is not a Communist country or a socialist country, but simply an education country.

When I lived in China I represented Harvard in interviewing high school students applying for admission, and it was a humbling experience. The SAT isn't offered in China, so instead the kids take the G.R.E. — meant for people applying to graduate school — and still score in the top percentiles. And while many of my Chinese friends worry that the system works children too hard and costs them their childhood, the brightest kids are not automatons; many are serious enthusiasts of art, music, poetry or, these days, the basketball plays of Yao Ming.

The other day I visited one of Shanghai's best high schools, the No. 2 Secondary School Attached to East China Normal University. American students who are proud to have earned a perfect score of twin 800's on the SAT should meet the 17-year-old student here who last year got a perfect score of three 800's on the G.R.E.

He Xiaowen, the principal, showed off 14 gold medals that students have earned in the international math and science Olympics. When I asked if she had any problems with students smoking or drinking, she looked so scandalized that I might have been sent to the principal's office, if I hadn't already been there.

One reason for Chinese educational success emerges from cross-cultural surveys. Americans say that good pupils do well because they're smarter. Chinese say that good students do well because they work harder.

A growing body of evidence suggests that Chinese students do well academically partly because their parents set very high benchmarks, which the children then absorb. Chinese parents demand a great deal, American parents somewhat less, and in each case the students meet expectations.

The result is apparent at No. 2 Secondary School. The students live in dormitories, going home only on weekends, and they're mostly studying from 6:30 a.m. until lights-out at 11 p.m. On Saturdays they attend tutoring classes from 9:40 to 5:10, and on Sundays they do what one girl, Gong Lan, described as six hours of "self-assigned homework."

She explained: "This is extra work to improve ourselves. I read outside books to improve my ability in any subject I feel weak in."

Chinese students may not have a lot of fun, and may lag in subjects in which some American students excel, such as sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll. But these kids know their calculus and are driven by a work ethic and thirst for education that make them indomitable. With them in the pipeline and little kindergartners like Tony Xu behind them, China may eventually lead the world again.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: china; chinas
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1 posted on 11/22/2002 2:18:32 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
Americans say that good pupils do well because they're smarter. Chinese say that good students do well because they work harder

A good point. I've seen research showing that if you tell kids "Wow, you did great, you're so smart" they're less motivated to try things than "Wow, you did great, you must have worked very hard." The first comes across as a statement of their identity, and they become afraid to fail. The second is simply an indication that they worked- something they have control over. So they're willing to take risks the next time.

2 posted on 11/22/2002 2:25:19 PM PST by laurav
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To: dennisw
My buddy Shuo here is about as smart as they come.
3 posted on 11/22/2002 2:27:52 PM PST by weikel
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To: dennisw
I do not know what I think of this.

Should a child be in class or be in organized learning situations 12+ hours a day after the 5th birthday until 18? Maybe not, but they do it anyway.

If they are doing it, what should we do. If we continue as we are will we lose our position in the world?

What of our own people using "outside" the box techniques to teach their kids? Will those outside our failing public education system make par with the future of China?
4 posted on 11/22/2002 2:31:23 PM PST by CyberCowboy777
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To: dennisw
'Course when you have 1,200,000,000 people to pick from, the top 5% is waaaaaaay up there as compared to anyone else.
5 posted on 11/22/2002 2:34:15 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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To: dennisw
But since urban Chinese families now have only one child each are forced to abort any children beyond their firstborn, no expense is too great for one's "little emperor."

Gee, what a great idea! I bet this fact doesn't bother this brilliant writer. Not as long as they continue producing perfect little workers.

7 posted on 11/22/2002 2:48:53 PM PST by Charlie OK
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To: chookter
This article reminds me of one of the original pro-communist reporters (NY Times, I forget his name for the moment) who was a correspondent in the USSR during the 20's and 30's. He refused to believe that there was massive famine under Stalinism, because he was shown only happy, productive farmers and ate sumptious meals in his hotel, all courtesy of Uncle Stalin. How can there be famine, he would write back in the NYSlimes, when they have such delicious food in such great quantities?

The same stupid reasoning applies here. The above writer was carefully shown only what the Chinese government WANTED him to see. What about the millions, the billions of peasant Chinese that will never get the education that the urban elite kids do? The author dismisses them in passing. Stupid leftie.

8 posted on 11/22/2002 2:54:45 PM PST by egarvue
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To: egarvue
His name was Walter Duranty I believe...
10 posted on 11/22/2002 2:59:25 PM PST by chilepepper
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To: CyberCowboy777
what should we do.

Quit handing them free nuclear secrets and quit buying the billions of low-quality junk products they produce in their factories/prisons.

11 posted on 11/22/2002 3:00:51 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: Charlie OK
Not as long as they continue producing perfect little workers.

...and we continue buying what the little workers produce.

13 posted on 11/22/2002 3:03:14 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: dennisw
But these kids know their calculus and are driven by a work ethic and thirst for education that make them indomitable.

Bingo. Damn! I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Kristof on anything.

14 posted on 11/22/2002 3:04:47 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Kansas Redlegs
That will make our children's education better than theirs (???).

You are presuming that what was shown to the reporter was something other than scripted Chinese propaganda.

15 posted on 11/22/2002 3:10:38 PM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: laurav
A good point. I've seen research showing that if you tell kids "Wow, you did great, you're so smart" they're less motivated to try things than "Wow, you did great, you must have worked very hard." The first comes across as a statement of their identity, and they become afraid to fail. The second is simply an indication that they worked- something they have control over. So they're willing to take risks the next time.

Exactly right. The apparently phenomenal learning taking place among these Chinese kids is simply a reflection of a child's native intelligence (of whichever race) being able to flower in the right kind of environment. It used to be this way in the U.S. (and still is in some isolated places). 8th grade graduates around the turn of the 19th century were far more able than many college graduates today. The difference in approaches is seen even in subjects like art. Chinese students are taught how to draw. American students, by and large, are encouraged to be creative but are not rigorously taught the methods of drawing (lest their creativity be harmed and their self-esteem damaged by showing them that there are things they just do not know and must make an effort to learn). The Chinese students end up with the tools and skills that enable them to express their creativity. The American students end up trying to convince themselves and others that their execrable output is really a sign of their unique artistic vision.
17 posted on 11/22/2002 3:13:42 PM PST by aruanan
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To: dennisw
Of course, almost all extremely high sigma children become dysfunctional adults that don't accomplish much of real value when they are older. Encouraging this extreme savant-ism in children usually results in psychological damage that limits the practical application of what they learn.
18 posted on 11/22/2002 3:14:34 PM PST by tortoise
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To: dennisw
I am surprised that you would put any stock in the ramblings of Kristof, dennis. The guy makes his living by tearing down his own country, after all. Let him put his money where his mouth is and send his kids or grandkids to school in China.

The numbers depicting the supposed superiority of foreign students vis-a-vis American students are always skewed due to heterogeneous populations in the USA, the lower quarters of which steadily improve over the course of one or two generations, but nevertheless drag down the average at any given point in time in a constantly renewing cycle. Even our underclass, once thought to be permanently disenfranchised, has shown signs of dimishishing in size and improving in prospects over the last few decades.

Bottom line, we out-produce everybody in the world, providing the best standard of living and more wealth than any other country on the planet. If the Chinese (or anybody else) can't say the same, how much does it really matter what their schoolkids can do?

19 posted on 11/22/2002 3:19:01 PM PST by beckett
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To: dennisw
Bump
20 posted on 11/22/2002 3:21:41 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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