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Groups Protest Victoria's Secret Show
Yahoo Entertainment News and AP ^ | 11/19/02 | David Bauder

Posted on 11/19/2002 3:13:35 PM PST by diotima

Groups Protest Victoria's Secret Show

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - Two women's groups and a media watchdog organization on Tuesday asked CBS not to air the Victoria's Secret fashion show, calling it a "soft-core porn infomercial."

CBS said it was moving ahead with the broadcast of supermodels in lingerie on Wednesday night.

Concerned Women for America, the National Organization for Women (news - web sites) and the Parents Television Council were among several groups protesting the televised fashion show, which was taped in New York City last week.

ABC aired it last November, prompting an investigation by the Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites), which ruled it did not violate decency standards.

Along with the airing of near-nudity, the groups said the show degrades women.

"What purpose does the special serve except to overly sexualize women and use this to bolster the networks' demographics for young men?" they asked in a joint letter to CBS President Leslie Moonves.

Melissa Cardwell, research director for the Parents Television Council, said she had hoped that the hundreds of protests about last year's special would have dissuaded broadcasters from showing it again.

"Despite what the PTC says, this is not pornography," CBS spokesman Chris Ender said. "It's a one-hour fashion show mixed with musical performances and comedy segments.

"Does it push the envelope? Sure. But everyone knows what the Victoria's Secret fashion show is," he said. "With the advance publicity and the content advisory, every viewer will be armed with information to make their own choice."

CBS is giving the show a TV-14 rating, an indication that the material may be unsuitable for children age 14 and under.

The show has bounced around the CBS schedule. It was originally scheduled to air at 10 p.m. EDT but, worried about competing against ABC's two-hour finale of "The Bachelor," CBS moved it to 8 p.m.

Then, it was moved again — to 9 p.m. Ender said that upon reflection, CBS decided it wasn't best to air the show at 8 p.m. in what used to be considered the family viewing hour.

A "small number" of CBS affiliates aren't airing the show in prime-time, but Ender wouldn't name them. Two are in Idaho: KBCI-TV of Boise and KIDK-TV of Idaho Falls, both owned by Fisher Broadcasting, Inc.

"I don't believe it meets the standards of our communities in the time period offered," said Jeffrey Anderson, Fisher's general manager. "It's a family viewing hour."

Instead, the stations will air the show after midnight on the weekend.

ABC occasionally blurred the picture last year when particularly sheer lingerie was featured. CBS said it expects that not to be a problem this year, indicating the underwear is not as revealing.

The Parents Television Council, angered by the FCC (news - web sites)'s ruling on last year's show, said it intends to step up pressure on federal regulators if this year's edition is similar.

Also, CBS said it had edited out a demonstration by animal rights activists at last week's taping. Four protesters stormed the stage with signs that read "Gisele: Fur Scum," when model Gisele Bundchen — who has a modeling contract with a leading fur company — walked the runway.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cbs; victoriassecret
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To: diotima
They are reacting to that nagging fear that somehow, somewhere somebody is having a good time, maybe even better than the time they're having.

Some people enjoy showing off their good looks, others enjoy watching. VS sells stuff to make it even more fun. But there is always some group dedicated to trying to stop others from the pursuit of happiness.

61 posted on 11/19/2002 5:03:06 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: diotima
So? Some of the daytime soaps are pretty bad, and those are shown in the middle of the day. What about all these teenage girls that go around the malls with jeans that are so low that their butt cracks are almost showing? If people are offended by what's on TV, they can always change the channel, surf the net, or read a book.
62 posted on 11/19/2002 5:09:28 PM PST by HelgaHawk
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To: contessa machiaveli
eew...just leave it ok?
63 posted on 11/19/2002 5:10:37 PM PST by HelgaHawk
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To: Humidston
She looks to me like someone sliced open the chest area and jammed two softballs inside the tight skin.

No kidding....a lot of these models are 6 1/2 feet tall beanpoles and just look very odd to me. And what's with Heidi Klum's hips?

I would very much like to have bodies like some of those models, but the gargantuan chicks like Elle et al look like walking hatracks to me.

64 posted on 11/19/2002 5:26:49 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
ABC passed to broadcast it this year. In fact there were over 900 complaints to the FCC on account of the show.

I don't know if it was in good or poor taste, I didn't see it last year, although they did have to digitize some "stragetic body parts" during the show.
65 posted on 11/19/2002 5:27:40 PM PST by diotima
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To: HelgaHawk
Sure. Most people don't know that this stuff is on TV so early. If you know and don't mind your pret-teen or teen watching this, then fine, its your choice.

I think the issue is that many people do not know what is being aired on TV and that many parents don't know what the content of these TV shows are.
66 posted on 11/19/2002 5:30:30 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
Then I'd say these parents need to 'edumacate' themselves. I am aware of what I want my pre-teens to watch and what they are not allowed to see. I also know how to program my DirecTV receiver to block out programming during certain hours on certain channels. It's really not that hard to figure out what's on a tv schedule on a daily basis.
67 posted on 11/19/2002 5:32:24 PM PST by HelgaHawk
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To: FeliciaCat
I like Victoria's Secret and ordered a few things from there.

Me too. VERY cute stuff.

NOW is just angry because none of them couldnt fit one smelly fat toe in anything at Victoria's secret.

They keep forgetting that the rest of us girls want to look pretty :-)

68 posted on 11/19/2002 5:37:58 PM PST by Hawkeye's Girl
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To: Lizavetta; Humidston
Seriously, some doctor needs a malpractice suit for those cabbages, eh?

I always thought the purpose of getting some work done under the hood was so that no one KNEW you had some work done under the hood, ya get?
69 posted on 11/19/2002 5:39:04 PM PST by diotima
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To: Revolting cat!
"What's qwrong with those chicks' legs? Why do they place their feet in an 'X' pattern when they walk?"

It makes their hips swing.

70 posted on 11/19/2002 5:51:29 PM PST by redhead
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To: diotima
Ref. Post #65.

Thank you for your comment.

Yes, there were a lot of complaints. But those of us who saw it couldn’t figure out why. I find many of the regular fashion shows to be disgusting and offensive, something I couldn’t say about last year’s Victoria’s Secret. Maybe it was the competition that was complaining. Success always has its detractors...those who wish to see one fail.

71 posted on 11/19/2002 6:02:34 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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In the interest of full disclosure, I should add that I work for the Parents Television Council. I normally don't put our stuff up on FR, but I thought this would make for a fun thread.

Elizabeth
Director, National Grassroots and Membership
Parents Television Council
72 posted on 11/19/2002 8:44:34 PM PST by diotima
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To: contessa machiaveli
she has lush mediterranean looks

Like the Contessa? ;-)

If I was a lesbian...

I guess you can call me a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

Now I need to go to Wild Oats. First let me listen to some Indigo Girls as I put on my Birkenstocks...

73 posted on 11/19/2002 10:21:57 PM PST by Clemenza
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To: diotima
The issue is that this is going to be aired on network TV at 9pm.

Horse hockey. With a 200+ cable channel universe (and even if you don't have cable/satellite, you've got at least the four major networks plus PBS to choose from), this is ridiculous.

And finally, in the event your television's tuner is broken and stuck on CBS (heaven forbid!!), there's always the other knob on the television: The OFF switch.

That being the case, the protestors truly need to stop trying to tell me what I can and cannot watch. I am at least intelligent enough to make that decision for myself and my family.

75 posted on 11/20/2002 9:37:33 AM PST by mhking
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To: greasyHeart
i know what you mean, things did get a little freaky...non-sequitors, sexual confusion, lustful thoughts.
i don't think laeticia would like shannon, he's too girly.
77 posted on 11/20/2002 4:05:28 PM PST by contessa machiaveli
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To: greasyHeart
Please Don't Stop...............LOL!!!!!
78 posted on 11/20/2002 4:08:00 PM PST by cmsgop
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