1 posted on
11/05/2002 3:31:42 AM PST by
kattracks
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To: kattracks
This guy has a lot of guts not to play it the way the Feds want him to. He could now be on a permanent **** list.
2 posted on
11/05/2002 3:38:35 AM PST by
dennisw
To: *bang_list
Bang!
To: kattracks
RE: "Why didn't you give us a chance to do what we said we were going to do instead of ambushing us with the media? Why didn't you trust us?" one agent asked.
Gee, I dont know (cough - Waco, cough - Ruby Ridge cough - blasting an eagle scout in the face.)...nothing comes to mind.
5 posted on
11/05/2002 3:52:48 AM PST by
tomakaze
To: kattracks
Yep, looks th'll have to turn the other 2 lose and convict this guy and R. Jewel. PUKE!!!
6 posted on
11/05/2002 3:54:28 AM PST by
Waco
To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower; Squantos; harpseal
A few pings.
>>"Why didn't you give us a chance to do what we said we were going to do instead of ambushing us with the media? Why didn't you trust us?" one agent asked.
Ruby Ridge, Waco, OKC, TWA800, any number of ATF raids on gunshops/owners, yadda, yadda......
I really don't see how the FBI/ATF/TLA's intend to win the war on Islamakazis if they don't have/earn the trust of people like this guy.
Nothing to see here, move along.
To: kattracks
From experience....Never ever trust any FBI person. There are a few honest and or decent ones, by not trusting any of them, you are protecting yourself, that comes first.
11 posted on
11/05/2002 4:14:27 AM PST by
cynicom
To: kattracks
We're from the government; we're here to help.
12 posted on
11/05/2002 4:14:41 AM PST by
the crow
To: kattracks
"
IWhy didn't you trust us?" one agent asked."
It's evident that our illustrious F.B.I. are so busy that they havent even had time to read the news papers, lo these many years.
Trust the F.B.I.?
Shirley......They jest!
13 posted on
11/05/2002 4:16:24 AM PST by
G.Mason
To: kattracks
I wonder if this video has made it's way onto the net yet?
To: kattracks
Smart man...
To: kattracks
Is this guy white? Wonder how many law-abiding African-American gun owners the Feebs rousted?
16 posted on
11/05/2002 4:25:44 AM PST by
mewzilla
To: phasma proeliator
PING
To: kattracks
I've seen several reports of these visits, and the question I never see answered is: "How did they know he owned this particular rifle?"
NICS wasn't in force in 1993 and in any case the records, by law, must be destroyed afterwards. No one seems to be investigating and publicizing this!
30 posted on
11/05/2002 5:57:19 AM PST by
6ppc
To: Vigilant1
Hey Vigilant1, this is in
Maryland!
Brown's apprehension prompted him to contact an attorney, who instructed him on preparing for the visit. ... The agents asked Brown to step outside the home, away from the television crew, to talk. ... Brown began recapping the agreement he had made with Special Agent Metzger. when one of the agents realized Brown was wearing a wireless microphone, he stopped the conversation short. ... "Do you have a microphone on?" the agent asked as he reached toward the microphone clipped to Brown's shirt. Brown backed away and continued talking, but the agent interrupted him again. "Can you do me a favor?" the agent asked. "Can you take the apparatus off that you have on? I'd like to speak to you privately."
Wow, Viggy ... they FBI did not
arrest Brown! Eeven though according to you, in Maryland they often prosecute people who tape conversations without getting the consent of all parties. And Mr. Brown had gotten the advice of an attorney! Gee wiz, maybe those FBI guys need YOU as their legal advisor.
Like you TOLD other people some days ago, according to councillor-wanna-be, you can't tape your own conversations in Maryland. Well maybe, just maybe you gave bad advice. Unsafe advice.
And maybe they don't really prosecute people at all for it in Maryland. That's what I think -- absent that political hound-dogging of Linda Tripp which was eventually completely dismissed. I think it is a ridiculous interpretation of any statute in these United States to hold that a person can't make a recording of any conversation he is a known part of -- especially one with as dread potential consequences as converstaions in this type of circumstance. No decent law can put a person at hazard. My layman's opinion.
32 posted on
11/05/2002 6:07:11 AM PST by
bvw
To: kattracks
I would be very interested in seeing a list, broken out by all the usual demographic categories, of folks who were visited during the sniper investigation because they owned .223s and those who had guns Borrowed for ballistic fingerprinting. I wonder if there might be some pattern discernable in the types of persons chosen for this special attention.
33 posted on
11/05/2002 6:12:43 AM PST by
SWO
To: kattracks
"One thing they said was, 'Don't you know people are dying and we're just trying to do our job?'" It would have been nice if the FBI did their supposed job - and concentrated on the evidence coming in about a dark Caprice instead of using the sniper attacks as justification to pull gun-store records and harass law-abiding gun owners. That is the entire problem - the FBI has been so addled by political correctness that it filters valid evidence and wastes considerable man-hours chasing phantoms of its own creation.
34 posted on
11/05/2002 6:14:12 AM PST by
dirtboy
To: kattracks
Unfortunately, this really isn't about gun control so much as it is about government control and the power of unsubstantiated allegations. One of my favorite examples,a little over a year old now: Gill McGillicuddy-Click Here
Best regards,
To: kattracks
One thing they said was, 'Don't you know people are dying and we're just trying to do our job? Since their is no portion of their admitted job that could not be done perfectly well under the gaze of the combined audiences of the Super Bowl, the first moon landing, and the final episode of M*A*S*H*, they've just admitted to having a hidden agenda.
47 posted on
11/05/2002 6:58:22 AM PST by
steve-b
To: kattracks
Now let me see,he owns a .223 rifle,drives a WHITE van,and(I presume)is a WHITE MAN!Sounds to me like"Three Strikes and You're Out"!!I'd like to know what kind of data-base the Feds have that indicates where they can come(rifle purchased in 1993)to pick up our guns???Keep em'"Locked and Loaded"People!!!!
To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21
Jack booter thug ping!
Semper Fi
53 posted on
11/05/2002 7:12:05 AM PST by
dd5339
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