Davis and Simon and Jeb and McBride

Self | 10/28/2002 | David H Dennis

[daviddennis]

Colour me confused.

In Florida, both sides are pouring tons of money into a race between a popular incumbent and a well-financed but vacuous challenger. The challenger is only 8 points behind the incumbent. This is considered a competitive race, even though Jeb is a popular incumbent with most of the important endorsements and clear wins in the debates.

In California, one side has been called "doomed" from the moment his campaign began. He's spent hardly any money, and his campaign has finally ramped up only a few weeks ago. This candidate is only ten points behind his extremely unpopular Democratic opponent. There are tons of undecideds, and the odds are that turnout from passionate Republicans will be a great deal better than disaffected Democrats, who are united in loathing their candidate.

Why is Florida considered in play while authoritative sources such as the Wall Street Journal have written off California entirely?

It seems to me that either the Florida race is already entirely decided in Jeb's favour, or our California race should still be counted as in play. It seems like blatant bias to say "everybody knows" Simon is hopeless, even though McBride has made comparable missteps (including losing big in both debates with Jeb).

Thoughts?

D

[daviddennis]

Ping to a few of my friends!

D

[Nachum]

What are the California poll numbers today?

[ambrose]

You don't have to be a member of Mensa to understand that California has been trending heavily Democratic whereas Florida has become a true 50-50 state. Moreover, the DNC has been united in their efforts to oust Jeb, whereas W's man in California (Parsky), has done just about everything in his power to sabotage Simon's campaign.

[TatieBug]

After spending $60 Million, Simon is holding his own behind but in there...amazing. Wonder how all of those BRIBED donors feel?

[Henchster]

Two words:

LIBERAL MEDIA

[Cicero]

Two more words: Gerald Parsky.

If Gray Davis wins, he owes Parsky a very cushy job.

[Saundra Duffy]

Some pollsters are saying Bill Simon still has a chance. I'll tell you this - there are Bill Simon signs and bumper stickers all over the Central Valley! Yahoo! The only poll that counts is on Nov. 5th. The media has worked over-time writing lies and filth about our guy. But Bill Simon still marches on with head held high. BILL SIMON - YOU DA MAN! DUMP DAVIS! GO, SIMON! For victory & freedom!!!

[goldstategop]

Gray Davis will win. I just wish Bill Simon had been a better candidate and hadn't had the legal troubles he was cursed with along with political inexperience in running his first statewide campaign, since clearly Davis was beatable. But it looks like it won't happen this year. Its just the luck of the draw.

[CharacterCounts]

Why is Florida considered in play while authoritative sources such as the Wall Street Journal have written off California entirely?

Florida is in play because the democrat cheating in Dade county will narrow the gap. Califorinia will go to Davis because democrat cheating will widen the gap.

[kellynla]

A randomly selected sampling of California voters were asked the following question: "Voters in California will elect a governor on November 5th. If the election for California governor were today, and you were standing in the voting booth right now, whom would you vote for?
Gray Davis (D)47%
Bill Simon (R)36%
Peter Damejo (G) 9%
Gary Copeland (L) 4%
Undecided/Other 4%
Poll conducted 10-18-02, 10-19-02 and 10-20-02. Sample of 700 likely voters from the State of California. Margin of error is plus or minus 3.8 percent. Results may not add up to 100 percent because percentages are rounded to whole numbers.
SURVEY USA POLL

[kellynla]

Most polling "experts" say that any incumbant who is under 50% is in trouble plus the Dimwit Davis' negatives are in the forties...Waiting to see what and if the media reveals the court documents ordered released today concerning Davis' supposed bribery accusations of ten years ago.

[kellynla]

incumbant=incumbent

[ffrancone]

THE ELECTION IS IN 8 DAYS
AND I CAN'T VOTE.

PLEASE, HELP TAKE BACK THE SENATE.
IT'S "FOR THE PUPPIES!"

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A resource for conservatives who want a Republican majority in the Senate

[steveegg]

Some random thoughts (some already mentioned):

• Jeb and Simon are conservatives, who the media is sworn to destroy both because of who they are personally and who they are politically.
• There's the fraud issue, not taken into scientific account in polls. Even if it were, unless and until it is prosecuted, it will play a larger role in each succeeding election, as is being proven nationwide.
• At least in the earlier Kalifornica polls (yes, I read today's numbers that suggest that it's out of reach), the media followed the Klintonista method of saying that any margin in favor of the lieberal was significant and anything beyond the margin of error is a lock.
• Once Pete Wilson pissed away the "moderate-to-conservative" portion of the Latino vote, Kalifornica ceased to be a state where any Republican could win a statewide race (yes, this includes Riordan). It is now as reliably-DemonRATic as Taxachussetts.

[steveegg]

Waiting to see what and if the media reveals the court documents ordered released today concerning Davis' supposed bribery accusations of ten years ago.

Is there a significant split in the RAT party, say between LA RATs and Sacramento RATs? If not, then I wouldn't suggest holding your breath until the media mentions those documents.

[dpwiener]

Why is Florida considered in play while authoritative sources such as the Wall Street Journal have written off California entirely?

I think it's pretty obvious from your previous recitation of the facts. Florida is a swing state that is balanced on a knife edge between Republicans and Democrats. It is also the critical state in deciding which party will win the Presidency. So huge amounts of money will be spent by both sides to try to win the governorship. At the moment Jeb Bush has a significant but not-insurmountable lead, due largely to his incumbency.

California has turned into a heavily Democrat state in which Republicans would require a major miracle to win. They have been given a minor political miracle, in that Gray Davis is one of the most corrupt and incompetent and despised governors in the state's history. Unfortunately for the Republicans they selected an incompetent, amateur candidate to oppose Davis. And Simon has been unable or unwilling to put enough of his own money into his campaign to compete with the enormous warchest Davis has extorted out of special interest groups.

If California had been a closely-balanced swing state like Florida, Davis would long ago have been toast, even given all of Simon's shortcomings as a candidate. Instead Davis has a substantial lead in a race which may or may not tighten up as we approach election day.

[kellynla]

Not holding my breath but don't forget that CA is made up of alot more than SF & LA...we are going to see what if anything hits the papers in OC & SD not to mention the local radio television stations of which AM790 & AM830 are conservative radio. The ads should be often from here on out on radio and TV.

[steveegg]

I hate to admit it, but it doesn't matter what radio does. It has been successfully tarred as a "tool of the right". I don't know what kind of ideological bent the San Diego media has, but I'd expect the Orange County media to pick it up (IIRC, the paper there is the Orange County Register and the last I remember, they weren't quite stridently lieberal). Even so, consider how few Washington Times stories are picked up by anybody outside of FoxNews, Drudge and Limbaugh.

The reason why I asked whether there is a major split in the RAT party is that is the one thing that may still save Wisconsin. The Madison RATs have staged a 2-year effort to take over the entire state from both the Republicans and the Milwaukee RATs, and portions of that are backfiring. The state Senate Majority leader, Chuck (Upchuckwalla) Chvala, a Madison RAT, now faces extortion charges from a normally-no-see-um Milwaukee RAT DA after uncharacteristic pressure from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel to go after Upchuckwalla (while the best the Madison DA has been able to come up with in his witchhunt on the Pubbie Assembly leadership is that they used state workers to help on campaigns). Also as part of that, the Madison DA ran the odds-on favorite to replace fellow Madistan RAT Jim Doyle as Attorney General, a Milwaukee RAT state Senator, out of politics with charges that he used his office to campaign for AG; thus opening the door for a Pubbie to (hopefully) take that office, a Pubbie whose brother is actively investigating the Milwaukee Common Council as the freshly-minted US Attorney for eastern Wisconsin.

The funny thing is that Doyle, the "odds-on" favorite in the governor's race, has done the exact same things (all the way to the extortion), but because the media is hell bent for leather to get a RAT in the governor's office, nobody outside talk radio has so much as mentioned it.