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Black Confederate-flag supporter irks some on march to Texas
AP ^ | October 27, 2002

Posted on 10/27/2002 5:22:25 PM PST by stainlessbanner

CANTON, Ga.(AP) - H.K. Edgerton is a proud black Southerner who has no grievance with the Confederate battle flag.

And he's willing to march 1,500 miles across the South from Asheville, N.C., to Austin, Texas, decked out in a gray Civil War uniform and waving the Rebel flag to bring attention to the flag issue.

Edgerton sees the banner as a symbol of Southern heritage shared by blacks and whites rather than one of racial division.

"We were family," said Edgerton. He was in the Canton, north of Atlanta, on Saturday to visit Cherokee High School before marching west to Montgomery, Ala., on Monday.

In September, school administrators banned its overwhelming white student body from wearing to class anything depicting the Confederate battle flag.

Edgerton's "March Across Dixie" began earlier this month in Asheville, where he was a former president of the local NAACP. He's also a board member of the Southern Legal Resource Center, a nonprofit group that provides legal support to people fighting efforts to remove symbols of the Confederacy.

Edgerton blamed Northern reconstructionists for pitting blacks and whites against each other after the Civil War.

"This is Dr. Martin Luther King's dream, that we would all sit down at the same table together," he said.

But some Canton residents disagreed with Edgerton.

"He's an outsider from another state who doesn't know what he's talking about," said Krystal Thomas, a 1999 graduate of Cherokee High, where administrators in September banned students from wearing anything depicting the emblem.

"It's not the flag itself but the attitudes of the people who were wearing them," Thomas said.

Michael Julian Bond, duty director of the Atlanta NAACP, had stronger words about Edgerton's view.

"Nobody can argue with the fact we want racial harmony," Bond said in Sunday's editions of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, "but for anyone to think that the Confederate flag is a unifying symbol must be utterly mad."

Edgerton hopes to reach Austin by mid-February. He'll ask officials there to put back plaques honoring Texas Confederate veterans . The plaques were removed from the lobby of the Texas Supreme Court in 2000.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: confederate; dixie; dixielist; flag; heritage; honor; south
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To: stainlessbanner
"It's not the flag itself but the attitudes of the people who were wearing them," Thomas said.

Young Thomas will have a glowing career with the 'Thought Police'.

41 posted on 10/28/2002 5:15:38 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Non-Sequitur
"When the actual eviction came in 1835 most of the troops were made up of Georgia militia."

My source says...

"By 1835 the Cherokee were divided and despondent. Most supported Principal Chief John Ross, who fought the encroachment of whites starting with the 1832 land lottery. However, a minority(less than 500 out of 17,000 Cherokee in North Georgia) followed Major Ridge, his son John, and Elias Boudinot, who advocated removal. The Treaty of New Echota, signed by Ridge and members of the Treaty Party in 1835, gave Jackson the legal document he needed to remove the First Americans. Ratification of the treaty by the United States Senate sealed the fate of the Cherokee. Among the few who spoke out against the ratification were Daniel Webster and Henry Clay, but it passed by a single vote. In 1838 the United States began the removal to Oklahoma, fulfilling a promise the government made to Georgia in 1802. Ordered to move on the Cherokee, General John Wool resigned his command in protest, delaying the action. His replacement, General Winfield Scott, arrived at New Echota on May 17, 1838 with 7000 men. Early that summer General Scott and the United States Army began the invasion of the Cherokee Nation.

From here.

I'm not saying that the South wasn't a participant in the removal of the American Indians. I'm just trying to point out that we as a Nation are not without sin.

42 posted on 10/28/2002 5:16:42 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: stainlessbanner
I am a good ole rebel

yes, that is just what I am

and for this land of freedom

I do not give a damn

I'm glad we fought against them

I only wish we'd won

and I do not ask no pardon

for anything I've done!

43 posted on 10/28/2002 5:24:14 AM PST by makoman
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To: All
Observations of reality with no answers:
There were black confederate soldiers.
There were free blacks in the south.
There were blacks who owned their own slaves.
There were kindly white and black slaveowners who took good care of their slaves.
There were mean white and black slaveowners who whipped and mistreated their slaves.
There are ignorant whites who display the confederate battle flag as a racist symbol of hate. This cannot be denied, I have seen it and listened to the hate from their mouths.
Their are other whites who display it as a symbol of Southern pride and heritage.
44 posted on 10/28/2002 5:26:36 AM PST by Drawsing
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To: makoman
Deo vindice, my brother!
45 posted on 10/28/2002 5:28:50 AM PST by rebelyell
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To: Non-Sequitur
hmmm..

snip.. "In May of 1832 Sac and Fox Indians under the leadership of Black Hawk left the Iowa territory and returned to their homes across the Mississippi River in northern Illinois. These Native Americans had lost their Illinois lands in a disputed treaty signed in St. Louis in 1805. Their return to northern Illinois sparked widespread panic among white settlers, and Illinois Governor Reynolds quickly called up the militia, which included a young Abraham Lincoln.

Both the militia and regular army troops proved unable to locate the elusive Indians at first, but by July they had begun to pursue Black Hawk's band across northern Illinois and southwestern Wisconsin, engaging them in a major conflict at Wisconsin Heights before finally routing the Indians at Bad Axe on the Mississippi River.

This project presents searchable primary source materials describing the Black Hawk War of 1832. It includes the Autobiography of Black Hawk, American soldiers' first-hand accounts and reminiscences, maps and other images, and treaties and other government documents. It is a part of the larger Abraham Lincoln Historical Digitization Project and its attempts to use the events of Lincoln's life as a lens through which to interpret and understand broader themes of antebellum American history.

The Illinois Humanities Council has supported this project with a generous grant.

© 2000 Abraham Lincoln Historical Digitization Project

From here.

46 posted on 10/28/2002 5:30:52 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Non-Sequitur
Please tell us how many slaves were brought to the United States aboard Confederate ships.
47 posted on 10/28/2002 5:36:41 AM PST by jsraggmann
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To: FLAUSA
I'm not sure where you're going with this. I'm aware of the census data. There were almost half a million free blacks in the United States in 1860, 476,748 to be exact, and that made up slightly less than 10% of all blacks in the United States. Of those 125,460 lived in the confederate states. I have never doubted that blacks served with the confederate army. After all, they were southerners too, and many no doubt thought that service with the confederate army might improve their position in a post confederate south. But there service was restricted to support positions by confederate law, and any black combat soldiers in the confederate army were extremely isolated incidents. If one examines the pre-war laws and the post-war treatment of blacks in the southern states, I find it impossible to believe that southerners would treat them that way if they were trusted allies and brothers-in-arms.
48 posted on 10/28/2002 5:38:32 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: jsraggmann
We can't be sure that on all the blockade runners utilized by the south during the war that not a single slave was brought in. But that would have been in violation of the confederate constitution which protected slave imports from only the slave owning states of the United States.
49 posted on 10/28/2002 5:41:55 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: viligantcitizen
Scott used state militias federalized for the purpose.
50 posted on 10/28/2002 5:43:20 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: viligantcitizen
I never denied that such actions occured in the North, only your implication in Reply 33 that only Northerners were capable of it.
51 posted on 10/28/2002 5:46:44 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
To be fair, you are correct regarding the Georgia militia.

"Local operations began on May 18, 1838, mostly carried out by Georgia Guard under the command of Colonel William Lindsey. The first Cherokee round-up under orders from United States General Winfield Scott started on May 25, 1838 with General Charles Floyd in charge of field operations."

Your comment,"I never denied that such actions occured in the North, only your implication in Reply 33 that only Northerners were capable of it."

My post #42,"I'm not saying that the South wasn't a participant in the removal of the American Indians. I'm just trying to point out that we as a Nation are not without sin."

52 posted on 10/28/2002 6:02:23 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: FLAUSA; Spirited; viligantcitizen
Dudes! You stepped into some Non-Sequitur! Don't waste your time. If you pursue it long enough to box him into an undenialble corner he'll just take off on another tact and never concede the truth. I'm still waiting for the answer to something I pinned him on several years ago -- but he won't address the point. (Of course, it's been so long ago now I don't even remember what it was about.) No matter, at least he finally owned up to Northern hate. "Y'all came by your hate naturally, you didn't need any lessons from the Yankees." Which, of course, implies that the Yankess were hateful, even if we didn't need lessons from them. Hehehehehe. . .
53 posted on 10/28/2002 6:06:10 AM PST by Lee'sGhost
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To: Graewoulf
I'll have to find someone to scan the picture from a book for me. I'll post it as soon as I can.

54 posted on 10/28/2002 6:34:08 AM PST by dixierat22
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To: dixierat22
Thanks! I am very tired of our nation's history being primarily revised by "scholars" trained by the Socialist professors in the Northeast colleges and universities of the USA!

How can we possibly learn lessons from the the actual events in our nation's history if those events are being PC sanitized to fit the agenda of the revisionists?
55 posted on 10/28/2002 6:42:42 AM PST by Graewoulf
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To: stainlessbanner
BOND is MAD!

free the southland,sw

56 posted on 10/28/2002 7:51:20 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Illbay
better than people like you who have their head firmly "in a place that's always dark".

HK is a FRIEND of mine & a GREAT southron gentleman of the best sort. you, otoh, are not fit to wipe his boots.

free dixie,sw

57 posted on 10/28/2002 7:56:16 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Non-Sequitur
by TODAY's standards EVERY PERSON in the USA in 1861 was a bigot. even your much-beloved "saintly lincoln", the GREAT BLOODSPILLER, TYRANT & WAR CRIMINAL!

if all the racists from the various groups like the SPLC/naaLcp & ALL the damnyankees & scalawags would leave, we southrons would ALL get along.

every day that passes, more & more black southrons cleave to the TRUE CAUSE of southron LIBERTY & the southron flag!

free dixie,sw

58 posted on 10/28/2002 8:02:29 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Lee'sGhost
Dude, you have yet to box me in the corner on anything. But feel free to jump in and try it here.
59 posted on 10/28/2002 8:06:01 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: stainlessbanner
Keep It Flying South Carolina!
60 posted on 10/28/2002 8:07:15 AM PST by HangFire
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