Farrakhan says sniper suspect was a member of Nation of Islam

Associated Press ^

[Asmodeus]

CHICAGO - Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan acknowledged that suspected sniper John Allen Muhammad is a member of the religious group.

But Farrakhan said Saturday the man would be ousted from the Chicago-based group if he is convicted in the series of shootings that left 10 people dead and three wounded.

"He has not formally been kicked out of the Nation of Islam, but certainly if he's found guilty of something like this he would not be considered at all a member," Farrakhan said.

Farrakhan said he "grieves for the senseless loss of life" caused by the sniper shootings in Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C.

Farrakhan held a news conference in response to speculation that Muhammad provided security at the "Million Man March" in Washington. Farrahkan, who organized the march, said Muhammad, 41, did not provide security.

"He might well have been there," Farrakhan said of Muhammad, who changed his name from John Allen Williams after converting to Islam.

Farrakhan said Muhammad joined the Nation of Islam in 1997 but that he had not been in contact with the group since 1999, when he was involved in a domestic dispute with his wife, also a member of the group.

"Those who knew him never said ugly things about his conduct or his behavior," Farrakhan said.

[Freedom2specul8]

PING

[Travis McGee]

Grampa Dave has a fascinating idea: compare JM's travels to the murders of Nation of Islam enemies and defectors.

Also check his whereabouts against the break in at the Tacoma INS office where official stamps and documents were stolen.

Seen in this light, the "homeless shelter lifestyle" makes sense: you come and go without leaving tracks. In between shelter stays, he may be "on contract", have gun will travel.

[Orual]

Our confrontation with America used to be like confronting a fortress from outside. Today, we have found a loophole to enter the fortress and to confront it from within. -- Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, after meeting with Louis Farrakhan in 1996

The Washington Post noted that “Among the reports to reach Washington, a story in an Iranian newspaper quoted Farrakhan (though he has denied it) as saying in Tehran: "You can quote me: God will destroy America at the hands of the Muslims."

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks, I got the Nation of Islam hit man suggestion from pepsionice.

When Sabertooth reposted the thread re the INS breakin, you know me. I just had to ask the question not really asked, was the Nation of Islam mass murderer/hit man in Tacoma when that INS office was broken in. I would expand that to living in Bellingham, as part of the question. Tacoma is not all that far from Bellingham.

Also, remember the heavy duffle bag this POS refused to let out of his sight. He even took it to the bathroom with him.

Did that dufflebag carry his tools of his trade, Hit Man?

[Grampa Dave]

Also, Krazy Kadafi Duck offered Krazy Thug Farrakhan a billion $'s during that meeting to help Farrakhan in his war against America.

[joesnuffy]

Farrakhan said he "grieves for the senseless loss of life"

Did Muhammed shoot any muslims by accident?

[joesnuffy]

"Those who knew him never said ugly things about his conduct or his behavior,"

And those who would have never live to...

[alaskanfan]

But Farrakhan said Saturday the man would be ousted from the Chicago-based group if he is convicted in the series of shootings that left 10 people dead and three wounded.

"He has not formally been kicked out of the Nation of Islam, but certainly if he's found guilty of something like this he would not be considered at all a member," Farrakhan said.

Strange that he would make statements like these.

Isn't this the same guy that constantly spews hate speech against the U.S. and people of different races?

Doesn't Nation of Islam recruit many of its members from penal institutions?

[Marine Inspector]

Very interesting.

[mikeIII]

...if he's found guilty of something like this he would not be considered at all a member," Farrakhan said.

My, my, they do have high standards!

[Future Useless Eater]

Grampa Dave has a fascinating idea: compare JM's travels to the murders of Nation of Islam enemies and defectors. Also check his whereabouts against the break in at the Tacoma INS office where official stamps and documents were stolen.

Great idea!
Will someone please start an online database where we can all collect and update a time-line of every significant law-breaking event alledged or suspected for these two terrorists?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

We have a somewhat crude one that contains more than just that! Go to :

JIHAD IN AMERICA:

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[txhurl]

Pete's your dude.

[Future Useless Eater]

And the database should also document every time police, INS, or US Attorneys failed to nab these guys.

Don't forget either that at the Tacoma INS office a laptop computer was also stolen, and the terrorists were seen with a laptop computer ON inside their car.

The newsmedia describes them as penniless homeless people, but they had a $1000 rifle, $2000 laptop computer, tape recorder, and voice altering device! Mohammad was also a FREQUENT FLYER!

[FITZ]

Farrakhan needs to realize his Nation of Islam is being used by America hating foreigners. Black Muslims may have started innocently enough and the Arabs are quite racist and first had no use for them but now they are using them. Arabs used to deny Black Muslims were really Muslims but now they count them so they can claim many Islamic conversions in the US.

[NewRomeTacitus]

Just in time for Christmas:
"Farrakhan, Leader of the Decepticons. Twist him one way and he's Anti-Semite. Turn him another and he's Community Pillar. Yet another twist reveals Terrorist Sympathizer. Kids will have hours of fun trying to determine what he'll be next. Pull on his bow-tie for one of ten mystifying phrases with Numerologic mumbling.
(Blood of Malcolm X not included.)

[Joe Hadenuf]

Does the Nation of Islam offer a list of their membership?
Or is that held in strict confidence?

[montrose]

I wonder if too much may be made of the "Mohammed" moniker.

I've noticed a weird behavior of many blacks in my city, Columbus, Ohio. There is a large black population here and many are poor. Anyway, it's remarkable that many blacks will be seen wearing University of Michigan sportswear. Around these parts, that's wearing the uniform of the enemy. It's become a huge fad among Columbus blacks.

Now, I'm a U of M alum, so when I saw a guy a work with a Wolverine jacket and big "Go Blue!" signs in his office, I said, right on, did you go to Michigan? He did not, was not related to any who did, in short, there was no reason for this "in your face" display other than to "Fight the Power" so to speak. This same guy, by the way, was a big advocate of the OJ-is-innocent line, and when I recapped the facts of the case as I knew them which incontrovertibly point to OJ's guilt, he couldn't articulate any defense, and lamely said, "Well, maybe I would have thought differently if someone had explained it to me that way." All I did was give the rudiments of the case and it was as if he hadn't thought of them before! There was no thought process behind it at all.

I believe that many blacks, in particular the snipers, feeling disenfranchised and powerless, reactively adopt the symbols of whatever sticks a finger in the eye of The Man, even in things as banal as sports, and there isn't a lot of point in figuring out the deeper meaning of it. The fact that this guy changed to name to "Mohammed" immediately after 9/11 underscores the point. Like many blacks, he gets a lift associating himself with the opposite team.

Now, these guys escalated into the field of mass murder, but the motive is evidently simply money. Their scheme to demand money credited to the stolen credit card, and to demand that they have nationwide ATM access to it, might even have worked, as I think it would be difficult to chase down hit-and-run so to speak withdrawals on ATMs across the country.

[Palladin]

That Grandpa Dave is on the ball! Maybe the FBI should hire him. He has outlined an excellent strategy for solving a lot of cold cases.