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Lead From Priest Cracked Sniper Case
CBS News ^ | October 24, 2002 | CBS News

Posted on 10/24/2002 5:51:20 PM PDT by OldCorps

CBS) One of America's most extraordinary manhunts culminated Thursday in the arrests of an Army veteran and a teenager, asleep at a roadside rest stop — perpetrators, authorities believe, of a bloody, three-week sniping spree that left 10 people dead, three injured and multitudes paralyzed by fear.

In a late development, the AP reports that court papers filed in Seattle allege that one of the suspects, John Alen Muhammad tried to equip an assault rifle with a silencer four months ago and told a friend about the damage such a weapon could cause.

Montgomery County State's Attorney Douglas Gansler said state and federal prosecutors would meet Friday morning to discuss charges against Muhammad, 41, and 17-year-old John Lee Malvo. Sorting out all the competing legal jurisdictions will be the first challenge for prosecutors, reports CBSNews.com legal analyst Andrew Cohen.

The lead that broke the case open, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart, came from an elderly Catholic priest.

It began to unravel not long after a shooting of a man near a Ponderosa steakhouse near Ashland, Va. on Saturday, Oct. 19.

Someone, presumably one of the snipers, called the office of a priest in Ashland last weekend and "essentially confessed" that he was involved not only in the sniper slayings, but a "robbery-homicide in Montgomery, Ala." as well, law enforcement sources told CBS. One source said the caller actually "left his remarks on the priest's answering machine." Why he would do such a thing remains a mystery.

The priest contacted the FBI hotline and by Sunday night the sniper task force was in touch with police in Alabama.

"They called us because they said a caller - and they're not sure whether the caller was connected to their shootings or not - had made a reference to the murder in Montgomery, Alabama," said Montgomery Police Chief John Wilson.

That murder occurred on Sept. 21, when one Alabama State Liquor Board employee was killed and another wounded by a single gunman in the parking lot outside their store.

Police, who had been under enormous pressure, turned their attention to gathering evidence that Muhammad and Malvo were responsible. The first item was Malvo's fingerprint, found at the scene of the Alabama robbery on a magazine about weapons, according to Montgomery Mayor Bobby Bright.

A composite sketch of the suspect in the liquor-store shootings was made and "there are some very good similarities" to Malvo, Wilson said. He said the gun used in Alabama was not the same as the one in the Washington, D.C.-area shootings, however.

Police traced Malvo to a house in Tacoma, Wash., that was searched Wednesday. He had been living in the house with Muhammad, a source told the AP.

FBI agents carted away potential evidence, including a tree stump from the yard that investigators planned to examine for bullets or bullet fragments.

CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports on the reaction of Muhammed's family and neighbors in Tacoma.

Felix Strozier, who ran a karate school with Muhammad, says he was controlling, had a nasty temper and took it out on even his youngest children when they didn't meet his expectations.

His neighbors, Chris and Deborah Waters, didn't have any suspicions of the Gulf War veteran. They did hear shots fired from Muhammad's house, which police believe were practices rounds fired into a tree stump.

Over several nights in January, Chris Waters heard gunshots coming from the vicinity of Muhammad's yard.

"A high-powered rifle .. every other day. I didn't even know it was coming from his house,'' Waters told CBS

Muhammed's relatives were shocked to learn of his arrest in connection with the sniper shootings. But when he visited them recently, they claim he was brainwashing his so called stepson, John Lee Malvo, by depriving him of food.

It was the tip from the priest which led police to Malvo and Muhammad. But who were these two, and why might they have unleashed terror on Maryland, Virginia and the District of Columbia?

But there was no indication, authorities said, that they were linked to al Qaeda or any terrorist group.

Muhammad did not receiver sniper training during his Army career, but he did receive a Marksmanship Badge with expert rating, the highest of three ratings — in use of the M-16 rifle, according to Army records.

A senior defense official who disclosed parts of Muhammad's Army record said Muhammad had training in three areas, mainly as a combat engineer, which was his specialty during the time he served in the 1991 Gulf War.

He also was trained as a metal worker and a water transport specialist.

Muhammad enlisted in the Army on Nov. 6, 1985, and was discharged at Fort Lewis on April 26, 1994. After leaving active duty he served in the Oregon National Guard until 1995. Before coming on active duty, he served in the Louisiana National Guard from 1978 to 1985.

His highest ranking on active duty was sergeant.

Muhammad changed his name last year from John Allen Williams, years after he converted to Islam, investigators told the Times.

Muhammad has been married and divorced twice. His second wife, Mildred Denise Williams, had taken out a restraining order against him, and according to a law enforcement source, he was held Thursday on a charge of violating that order by possessing a weapon.

FBI agents visited Bellingham High School, 90 miles north of Seattle, on Wednesday. Mayor Mark Asmundson said Muhammad and Malvo had been in the area until about nine months ago.

The relationship between the two was not clear. Some news reports identified Malvo as Muhammad's stepson, but two senior federal law enforcement officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said investigators believe he is not, at least not in the traditional sense.

Malvo attended high school in Bellingham last year. Police Chief Randy Carroll said his force had known about Malvo since December 2001, when the high school reported the youth arrived at the school without transcripts or other papers.

At one point, he lived with Muhammad at the Lighthouse Mission, a homeless shelter, Carroll said.

The pair was arrested without incident by members of the sniper task force at a rest stop in Frederick County, 50 miles northwest of Washington. The time was 3:19 a.m.

Three hours earlier, Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose had announced that Muhammad and Malvo were being sought and issued a nationwide alert for a blue, 1990 Chevrolet Caprice with New Jersey plates. A motorist and an attendant spotted the car and called police.

The Caprice has an opening in its trunk that would permit someone to lie inside and fire the rifle while remaining hidden, two federal law enforcement sources told The Associated Press. That could explain the lack of spent shell casings in most of the shootings, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Investigators now believe that the Caprice was involved in all the shootings. Sightings of white vans and box trucks were attributed to erroneous witness accounts.

Police would not confirm a report in The (Baltimore) Sun's Thursday editions that the Caprice was approached Oct. 8 by Baltimore officers who found Muhammad and Malvo sleeping. That was the day after a 13-year-old boy in Bowie was wounded as he arrived at school.

The two were allowed to go, sources told The Sun, because investigators were looking for a white van. In the weeks after, four more people were shot by the sniper, three fatally.

All told, 13 people were shot; three survived. The sniper left notes claiming to be God, and warning that children were not safe "anywhere, at any time."

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Earlier versions of this story reported that sources had told the Associated Press that ballistics tests had confirmed that the rifle seized today matched the sniper shootings. The Associated Press has withdrawn that statement, saying that two law enforcement sources now say that the tests have not been completed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Alabama; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; confession; priest; sacrement; sniper
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From the Communist Broadcasting Service:

"...The lead that broke the case open, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart, came from an elderly Catholic priest...

...Someone, presumably one of the snipers, called the office of a priest in Ashland last weekend and "essentially confessed" that he was involved not only in the sniper slayings, but a "robbery-homicide in Montgomery, Ala." as well, law enforcement sources told CBS. One source said the caller actually "left his remarks on the priest's answering machine." Why he would do such a thing remains a mystery.

The priest contacted the FBI hotline and by Sunday night the sniper task force was in touch with police in Alabama...."

My comment: Let me first begin by stating that I am an Orthodox Christian and am suprised that a RC priest would reveal a confession made to him, even if it was over the telephone. In the Orthodox church a confession is never to be revealed, even of criminal activity. This is for the spiritual well being of the penitent, as well as the priest.

Any comments?

1 posted on 10/24/2002 5:51:20 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
You and CBS need to get real! The comments left on an answering machine are not part of the sacrament of Confession.
2 posted on 10/24/2002 5:57:21 PM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: OldCorps
Phone answering machine messages are not sacramental confessions.
3 posted on 10/24/2002 5:58:00 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier
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To: OldCorps
Not the Sacrament. Another ignorant article by the media.
4 posted on 10/24/2002 6:00:32 PM PDT by oremus
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To: OldCorps
As others have stated, I too feel that the "Seal of Confession" only applies when the Sacrement of Absolution is administered. This was reported to be a phone call.

If you are interested in the Church's position, you might find the following article interesting.

The Seal of the Confessional

5 posted on 10/24/2002 6:03:15 PM PDT by Cagey
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To: Bigg Red
The comments left on an answering machine are not part of the sacrament of Confession.

Neither is the confess of a Muslim part of the Seal of the Sacrament of Confession, becuase as point of fact a Muslim cannot not receive the Sacrament until he is baptized and received into the Church. Obviously this does not happen over the phone.

6 posted on 10/24/2002 6:03:38 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: OldCorps
My comment: Let me first begin by stating that I am an Orthodox Christian and am suprised that a RC priest would reveal a confession made to him, even if it was over the telephone. In the Orthodox church a confession is never to be revealed, even of criminal activity. This is for the spiritual well being of the penitent, as well as the priest.

My response. That was not a confession! You can't just call and leave a message for a priest and call that a confession. This is a sacrament in your faith as well (I thought) isn't there a required form. Certainly it can be dispened with in certain cases, but passing a priest on the street and saying "hey father, I raped a teenager last night on fourth and main" does not constitute a "confession" in any sacramental sense and the priest would be obligated to turn that over to the authorities.

I'm not even sure there can be a valid confession for a non-christian. Think through what the sacrament entails and who is supposed to be involved and I think you will agree that it isn't possible for a muslim to "confess" to a priest an thereby bind his silence.

7 posted on 10/24/2002 6:04:14 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: Bigg Red
CBS used a different title. Agreed, it was not a sacramental confession.

Sniper probably had catholic roots before he converted to Islam, and his conversion may have been more of a macho thing rather than religiously motivated.

Interesting turn of events. He must have been feeling some real inner heat toward the end.

8 posted on 10/24/2002 6:07:01 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska
Interesting turn of events. He must have been feeling some real inner heat toward the end.

And he'll probably be feeling some more "heat" when all is said and done.

I know I should be praying for his soul, but I'm kinda hoping that hell can arange his "welcome party" to look a bit like heaven and dress up some demons in "virgin costumes" for the first few minutes.

I'd love to see the look on his face.... "oh, and by the way, we have some bad news..."

9 posted on 10/24/2002 6:12:57 PM PDT by IMRight
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To: OldCorps
Arnold Swarzenegger will star in the movie. Larry King will direct. That's s close as you get folks. PC ya know.
10 posted on 10/24/2002 6:13:17 PM PDT by Waco
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To: OldCorps
My comment: Let me first begin by stating that I am an Orthodox Christian and am suprised that a RC priest would reveal a confession made to him, even if it was over the telephone.
Let me say this: I can't believe you said that. You plainly do not understand the nature of the sacraments of the Roman Catholic Church.
11 posted on 10/24/2002 6:13:52 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: OldCorps
Perhaps it was Malvo who may not be a Moslem who had some qualms about the killings who made the call. BTW leaving a message on the phone doesn't constitute 'going to confession.'
12 posted on 10/24/2002 6:15:03 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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To: OldCorps
the caller actually "left his remarks on the priest's answering machine

Gee, I thought I'd be the only one to mention that this was not a violation of the Sacrament of Confession.

13 posted on 10/24/2002 6:15:08 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Bigg Red
Hey Bigg Red,

1. I'm just trying to learn something here, so don't shoot the messanger ok? Beside, if your name refers to the 1st Inf Div, have some respect for a soldier who spent 8 years in the 4th and 5th Inf Divs.

2. I think this illustrates one of the (many) differences between us (Eastern Orthodox) and the RC church. I confess to my spiritual father, a monk, over the telephone, and furthermore would have no problem doing so in a message. Many Orthodox clergy confess to their spiritual fathers via letters through the mail. Later, in church, the prayer of absolution is read over the penitent. So, from an Orthodox perspective, this would be a valid confession. Thanks for sharing the RC perspective though. Makes me glad I'm Orthodox.

3. Any Orthodox people have any thoughts on this?

4. Would someone please post this on the religion board, I'm not sure how this is done.
14 posted on 10/24/2002 6:17:10 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
If these gentlemen are, as seems to be the concensus here, Islamic terrorists ... why would one or both of them be confessing to a Catholic priest? this is the part I can't understand.

It does help back up John Ross' point (Unintended Consequences) that the majority of criminals get caught because they can't keep their mouth shut.

15 posted on 10/24/2002 6:20:22 PM PDT by templar
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To: OldCorps
"Ballistics Tests Link Suspects To Killings"
This is the headline on the linked article. Perhaps you should have noted that the posted headline was a product of your creative thinking.
16 posted on 10/24/2002 6:20:53 PM PDT by Marianne
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To: OldCorps
My comment: Let me first begin by stating that I am an Orthodox Christian and am suprised that a RC priest would reveal a confession made to him, even if it was over the telephone. In the Orthodox church a confession is never to be revealed, even of criminal activity. This is for the spiritual well being of the penitent, as well as the priest.

Some Catholics wish it were that easy and convenient to receive the Sacrament of Penance! Just pick up the phone, leave a message on a priests's answering machine, and voila! Instant absolution.

To receive the Sacrament of Penance, one must first be a baptized Catholic. Then there are these requirements:

1. To confess your sins truthfully to a priest, IN PERSON.
2. To have true contrition for your sins, and to express this in an Act of Contrition.
3. To have a firm purpose of amendment, i.e., to resolve to sin no more.
4. To perform the penance that the priest gives you.

The Muslim mass murderer failed on all four points. May he burn in hell forever.

17 posted on 10/24/2002 6:20:54 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: JulieRNR21
Converting to Islam means having a conscience-ectomy.
18 posted on 10/24/2002 6:21:35 PM PDT by Righty1
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To: OldCorps
Several things must happen to make a valid confession:
The Penitent must admit to the priest that he has sinned
Penitent must state, honestly and completely, ALL sins

Priest must give a penance (punishment), then absolution for sins confessed to.

Penitent must complete penance.

Obviously, person confessing sin must be a baptised and accepted member of the church.

I'm not an authority on Canon Law, just a humble practicing Catholic. Others may wish to add to, or correct my understanding of the sacrament of penance.

Violates confession? Nice try, no cigar!

19 posted on 10/24/2002 6:26:20 PM PDT by Don Carlos
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To: OldCorps
FWIW, some comments from a Catholic lawyer who never handled a single criminal case and can't remember the last time he saw the inside of a confessional. If it is determined that it was a confession,(I don't think so, but like I said, it's been a while)that conversation may have been privileged. If it was and that led to finding the murderers then any evidence that they would not have found out otherwise will get tossed. It's "fruit of the poisonous tree".

But hey, what do I know? I thought the NJSC was wrong on the Torecelli case.

20 posted on 10/24/2002 6:28:21 PM PDT by MattinNJ
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