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Washington Police Investigate Another Possible Sniper Attack
VOA ^ | 10/10/02

Posted on 10/10/2002 5:30:36 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Police in the Washington, D.C. area say it is too early to say whether a fatal shooting in a western suburb is related to a recent series of sniper attacks that has left six people dead and two others critically wounded. Authorities say a man was shot and killed late Wednesday as he filled his car at a gasoline station in Manassas, Virginia. Forensic evidence is still being analyzed. The sniper attacks have been linked by ballistics evidence.

Reports say certain elements of the Manassas shooting bear a resemblance to the sniper shootings, which began around the Washington area last Wednesday. Like the man killed in Manassas, all of the sniper victims were shot once, seemingly at random as they performed everyday tasks. Two of the people killed last week also were gunned down at gasoline stations.

Meanwhile, authorities say they are searching for a white van seen driving away from the location of the Manassas shooting. Police have been searching for a white vehicle in connection with the shootings last week. News reports early Wednesday said police discovered what may be the first known communication from the killer: a card used in fortunetelling, said to have written on it a message telling police, "I am God."

The card, known as a Tarot card, reportedly was found, along with a spent shell casing, near a school in a Maryland suburb where a sniper attack Monday left a 13-year-old boy critically wounded.

Police officials say they did not authorize information about the card to be released to the media and refused to comment further on the matter or other details of the investigation. Federal authorities are assisting in the investigation.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; maryland; shootings; sniper; virginia
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To: VRWC_minion
I don't think you can rule out a methodical serial killer. I also don't think you can rule out a terrorist on the basis that they too cannot be methodical killers. The guys who took the planes did so after years of planning.

I agree that these are possibilities. I am just playing a hunch. I'm no expert, but I believe serial killers are usually a little more...creepy. For example, they will take a bodypart as a trophy, or kill only women because they think all women are whores, or leave cryptic messages. You have a great point about the planning behind 9/11 but they martyred themselves. This guy has no intention of doing that. Mark my words. If he makes a mistake and the net starts to tighten, he will simply slip away and start somewhere else. I wouldn't be surprised if the Saudi's or Hussein were paying him upwards of $ 100,000 per kill. I really think this guy is ex-Spetsnaz (sp?). When they first started to arrive in Brighton Beach, Russian mobsters would hire these guys to off people for $ 100.

61 posted on 10/10/2002 9:29:32 AM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: *bang_list
Bang
62 posted on 10/10/2002 9:50:11 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
None dare call it terrorism.
63 posted on 10/10/2002 10:00:03 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I got this email newsletter from The Cyutting Edge and this is what they had to say about these shootings:

"Shootings in Maryland, called the Beltway Sniper attacks, riveted the nation. From the second day onward, Cutting Edge was declaring this shooting to be occultic, a fact confirmed on Day Eight, when the news broke that a Tarot Card had been discovered at the scene of the Middle School shooting! But, this Tarot Card was not just any old Tarot Card; it was the 13th card of the deck, called the "Death Card"!

From the beginning, we realized that the day of the first shooting was October 2, the date that begins the annual Satanic celebration of the Hindu Goddess Kali, that fierce Warrior Queen whose job it is to destroy the Old Order so the New Order could be established. Also nearly from the beginning, we realized that the original six shots formed a pattern on the ground that seemed to be the Broken Cross, that old symbol by which the Roman Emperor Nero tried to annihilate Christianity almost 2,000 years ago. Satanists today still revere this symbol, and for the same reason.

We have written an analysis of this shooting -- and have updated it -- at http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1710.cfm

By the way, I don't always agree with what they have to say.

64 posted on 10/10/2002 10:00:28 AM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: aristeides
Hillendale is an hour or so away from the Virginia shootings.
65 posted on 10/10/2002 10:01:42 AM PDT by Mfkmmof4
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To: hsmomx3
But, this Tarot Card was not just any old Tarot Card; it was the 13th card of the deck, called the "Death Card"!

The death card, which often shows a skeletal figure on a horse, represents endings, transitions, eliminations and the experiencing of inexorable forces.

I heard there was also a note to the police to keep the tarot card secret. Maybe the sniper was saying he was in process of ending the shooting spree. But the tarot card info leaked out and he decided to continue with shootings.

66 posted on 10/10/2002 10:11:53 AM PDT by aj1
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To: TC Rider
Her parents were in the Lowes store across the street from the gas station last night when the attack occurred.

It's not a Lowe's across the street, it's a Home Depot. Lowe's is a half mile down the road, behind Checker's.

67 posted on 10/10/2002 10:13:08 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

9. - 8:15 p.m. Wednesday: Man killed after paying for gas at a station in Manassas, Va.

Uhhh, I don't think Bowie is Manassas. CNN, keeping the world safe from accuracy.

68 posted on 10/10/2002 10:15:33 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Dr.Deth
Yeah! A fellow freeper, "wonders" caught that error too. Leave it to cnn. %-\
69 posted on 10/10/2002 10:23:55 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: aj1
I don't think this guy is going to stop and don't think leaking the card will cause him to get worse. I do think there was a message to the cops on the card, that hasn't leaked, the text anyway, and he was going to start communicating with them. Hope that hasn't been thwarted but the cops must have leaked it, the press just reports and I guess that is their job. After all alot of people want any info they can get.
70 posted on 10/10/2002 10:29:18 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Dr.Deth; ~Kim4VRWC's~
Okay, mystery cleared up. The FOX map lists the first killing (55-year-old man at grocery) as #1, while the CNN map lists the Michael's window shooting as #1. The #9 on the CNN map is the 13-year-old boy shot outside the school in Bowie, not the latest shooting at the Sunoco station in Manassas.

So CNN isn't off, it's just the numbering is different from the FOX map we're all used to. Because of the FOX map, I assumed the CNN map's #9 was supposed to be the Manassas shooting. Well, we all know what happens when we assume. :)

71 posted on 10/10/2002 10:36:48 AM PDT by wonders
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To: VRWC_minion
However, so much time has gone by that if someone from vietnam era was going to go on a shooting spree you would have thought it would have happened way before this.

I essentially agree with you, but the point here is don't assume the shooter is younger than 55, as an example. While someone in his 50's isn't likely to do well in an infantry unit he can still have lethal skills. If the police are trying to profile the shooter, keep the age options open, was my point.

72 posted on 10/10/2002 10:42:55 AM PDT by toddst
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To: wonders
Well I feel a major duh coming on..this is what happens when I can't 'slow' down enough to digest what I'm reading. Forgive me..

I figured out why the numbers were different last night..rather than repost it all, I'll just give you the links.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/766239/posts?page=589#589
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/766239/posts?page=594#594
73 posted on 10/10/2002 10:44:07 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Spiff
Gas Stations? Maybe he's looking for Navin Johnson. "The Cans! He hates these cans!!!"

"The new phone book's here! The new phone book's here! I'm SOMEBODY now!!"

74 posted on 10/10/2002 10:56:57 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Dr.Deth
It's not a Lowe's across the street, it's a Home Depot. Lowe's is a half mile down the road, behind Checker's.

I posted what she told me. I know her elderly parents live in the area. I believe her when she tells me they were in the area last night.

Here where I live, the Lowes and HD are across the street from each other and the terms are used interchangably.

I appreciate your desire for accuracy, but I think it matters little on this post. They were horrified and their daughter was worried sick about them.

More importantly to the point of the post, there was an immediate and massive response on the part of law enforcement.

75 posted on 10/10/2002 11:08:43 AM PDT by TC Rider
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To: toddst
That is awesome that you are still a good shot! Give Ollie some hell!
76 posted on 10/10/2002 11:09:37 AM PDT by rintense
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To: MattinNJ
Thanks for your insight. I have but one question in the things you said.....

He has to be ex-military

Does he have to be ex US military though?

77 posted on 10/10/2002 11:19:59 AM PDT by Mixer
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To: VRWC_minion
I'm not aware of any connection between any victim and the SS.
78 posted on 10/10/2002 11:22:00 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: areafiftyone
"Hear the tarot people are up in arms because that card that they used does not mean death. It means transition or movement."

I have a lot of friends who are "tarot people," and can tell you that that's PR spin. The Death card does indeed mean death—death is the very archetype of transition. It usually means some transition short of death, of course, since most people experience mundane change more often than they experience death, but transition from "live" to "dead" is definitely an option. It's most likely that the shooter knows nothing of Tarot, but it's also possible that he knows quite a bit—the card's an appropriate choice either way.

79 posted on 10/10/2002 11:26:22 AM PDT by Fabozz
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To: MattinNJ
"I don't think it is a Muslim. While spectacular when it comes to blowing themselves up, they lack the requisite skill to be so methodical on a consistent basis."

The PLO has carried out some very skilled sniper attacks in Israel over the past few years. However, you're right, it doesn't come naturally to the jihadist mind—Israel actually suspects at least one of the snipers was IRA, "on loan" to the PLO as both a terrorist and a teacher. (The IRA and Muslim terrorist groups often train together, strange as that may seem.) Something similar could be happening here.

80 posted on 10/10/2002 11:31:52 AM PDT by Fabozz
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