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Wednesday, 10/9, Market WrapUp (Derivative model breakdown?)
Financial Sense Online ^ | 10/9/2002 | James J. Puplava

Posted on 10/09/2002 5:25:50 PM PDT by rohry

 
Weekday Commentary from Jim Puplava
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The Impossible
  

Unsinkable ships sink
Unbreakable walls break
Sometimes the things you think could never happen
Happen just like that
Unbendable steel bends
If the fury of the wind is unstoppable
I've learned to never underestimate the impossible

~ words from "The Impossible" by Joe Nichols ~


STORM WATCH UPDATE
Bubble Troubles Part I
Double, double, toil and trouble; fire burn and cauldron bubble.

by Jim Puplava 9/13/2002

Bubble Troubles Part II

Yes, Virginia, There IS
a Housing Bubble
by Jim Puplava 9/20/2002

Bubble Troubles Part III
It Ain't Over Yet
for the Stock Market
by Jim Puplava 9/27/2002

 Wednesday Market Scoreboard
 October 9, 2002

 Dow Industrials 215.22 7286.27
 Dow Utilities 17.82 167.57
 Dow Transports 102.33 2013.02
 S & P 500 21.79 776.76
 NASDAQ 15.10 1114.11
 US Dollar to Yen 123.32
 US Dollar to Euro

.9897

 Gold 1.40 320.80
 Silver 0.02 4.35
 Oil 0.13 29.35
 CRB Index 0.11 225.97
 Natural Gas

0.06 3.918
10/09 10/08

Change

  HUI (Amex Gold Bugs Index)

Close
YTD
108.66 110.60 1.94
66.65%
52week High 147.82

06/03/02

52week Low 59.86

11/26/01

  XAU (Philadelphia Gold & Silver)

Close
YTD
61.64 62.79 1.991.15
13.24%
52week High 88.65

05/28/02

52week Low 49.23

11/19/01

All market indexes

 
Nyquist Column 10/08 No Turning Back
 

 Market WrapUp for the Week 
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Wednesday, October 9, 2002

The Unthinkable is Not Impossible
On Wall Street, they are worried. At the Fed, they are burning the midnight oil. In bank boardrooms, they are passing out Maalox. The unthinkable may be about to happen. A systemic risk that causes the financial system to implode is now a distinct possibility. The $110 trillion worldwide derivative market may be about to unleash a storm of undetermined consequences. Nobody has a model that can predict the possible outcome. How do you account for something never seen before? It has been more than 70 years since a storm of this magnitude has been seen or experienced. Most who work on the Street or in the trading rooms of large financial entities have never seen a 100-year storm. Very few alive today remember the consequences, much less lived through the carnage of the Great Depression and the stock market crash that preceded it. To many, seeing the Dow lose 88% of its value as it did during the bear market of 1929-32 is inconceivable. The fact that the Japanese Nikkei has lost 78% or that the NASDAQ is down 78% doesn’t seem to register. Everyone expects a market bottom and the worst of the storm is over. Nobody is watching the barometer; which is dropping rapidly.

One hundred year storms have a way of surfacing when you least expect it. In the financial world, bear markets have a way of fooling the majority of investors most of the time. Just when you think it's over, it isn’t. Just when you think a bottom is in, the market heads lower. When you think the news can’t get any worse, it worsens. The truth of the matter is nobody knows where the current storm will head and what damage it will bring. All that the experts can do is bet on probabilities. What lies on the tail end of the curve is that 10-sigma event that is incalculable. The models don’t factor it in -- just the probability of its occurrence. The extent of the damage, the long-term consequences, the impact upon lives, economies and governments can only be a guess. History can only alert us to the consequences and remind us that these storms do reappear throughout history. An archduke is shot, a naval base is bombed, a dictator rises to power, a government is overthrown, and suddenly 10-sigma events erupt and a daisy chain of dominoes begin to fall in unison.

Business cycles, market crashes, depressions and wars haven’t been eliminated despite the reassurance from experts and politicians that they will no longer happen. Economic and financial modeling is good at giving you probabilities, but not predictions. They can tell you about the probability of the unexpected, but not when they will occur. Nor can they predict the consequences. The truth is that no one knows what fury a $110 trillion derivative market will unleash if it does in fact implode. In 1998 a hedge fund called LTCM with 1.25 trillion in derivatives nearly brought the financial system to its knees. It would take the Fed, along with 14 other banks, to organize a private sector bailout. At stake were LTCM’s lenders who could be dragged along with it. An emergency bailout package was put together and a crisis was averted.

A Bank in All The Wrong Places
A lesson should have been learned, precautions taken and safety measures put into place. They weren’t. Instead the world of derivatives has grown by over 20% a year since then. More importantly, the players in the derivatives market have become more concentrated. One bank alone, J.P. Morgan Chase, accounts for $26 trillion of this $110 trillion market. Everyone knows J.P. Morgan Chase is in deep trouble. This bank accounts for over one half of the US bank held derivatives and nearly 25% of all derivatives held worldwide. It is a bank in all the wrong places and it is hemorrhaging from multiple sides of its businesses. The problem in this derivative market is that everyone is trying to offload risk. Hedging risk costs money. The greater the risk, the higher the price of covering that risk. Unexpected events such as hurricanes, floods, fires, mudslides or earthquakes raise the cost of insurance premiums. Hedging risks in the financial markets operate in the same way. When markets plunge and gyrate daily, when borrowers default, when profits evaporate, when credit spreads widen, when bond ratings are lowered, or when geopolitical events surface as in war or terrorism, risk premiums soar.

Playing Hot Potato
Off loading risk suddenly becomes a financial hot potato. In the derivative market, because of the degree of leverage and risk involved, everyone is trying to pass that risk on to someone else and net out their risk to zero. That seldom happens because someone somewhere is stuck holding the hot potato. You don’t always know who that is until the storm hits. Those who thought they were hedged suddenly find they are left exposed because the counter parties to their hedges have now become insolvent. It is a lot like having an insurance policy to cover against earthquakes. Suddenly a major quake occurs with damages so severe, that all insurers are suddenly at risk. That is the problem we have today with the greatest insurer covering over 50% of the US market and 25% of the market worldwide. Risk has been concentrated on one particular insurer: J.P. Morgan. Derivatives now account for anywhere from 20-40% of the bank’s revenues. The word “bank” is used loosely because J.P. Morgan looks and acts more like a hedge fund run on methamphetamines and steroids. Morgan’s $26 trillion derivative book is highly illiquid because most of its derivatives are of the OTC variety. These are highly specialized and customized contracts whose real value isn’t known until they are sold.

Most OTC derivatives are custom tailored to meet the needs of specific clients with specified risks. This makes them highly illiquid and vulnerable to panic selling in the event of a crisis. This proved to be LTCM’s undoing when it occurred. In the volatile markets of 1997-98 when credit spreads widened, risks multiplied. Instead of going from divergence to convergence, divergences widened as they are today. In the corporate debt markets, the yields on investment grade bonds are now 2.5% above Treasuries of the same duration, the widest in at least 10 years. Junk bond defaults are averaging 9-10%. Gaps between junk bonds and Treasuries are now approaching 11%. According to today’s Bloomberg, the spreads between Treasuries and junk bonds first hit the 10% level on August 14th and have breached that level 11 times since then.

Never Underestimate the Impossible
The reason this is important is that the majority of derivatives (85%) are interest rate related. Somebody big is sitting on the wrong side of that divergence. The mathematical models aren’t very good at predicting if and when a 10-sigma event will occur. They happen and then the models try to adjust. But these models are not dealing with the impossible at a time when impossible lurks everywhere. Talk is beginning to surface everywhere in financial circles of the possibility of systemic risks resurfacing in a possible implosion. HSBC Holdings has voiced concern of the impact on banks and insurers. Merrill Lynch’s chief financial officer, Douglas Flint, told a press conference, “We do worry about systemic risk.” Germany’s third largest bank, Commerzbank AG, was forced to deny rumors this past weekend that it was experiencing a liquidity crisis. The OECD (The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development) is stepping up it’s monitoring of reinsurance firms. Insurance companies and money center banks, especially the big ones, have now become the center of attention as credit agencies, government entitles, and world organizations monitor a rapidly dropping financial monitor. Everyone is praying that the storm clouds will disappear. They are getting darker instead. Can the impossible or the unthinkable occur? In the words of singer/songwriter Joe Nichols, “I’ve learned to never underestimate the impossible.”

Complacency Rules
Meanwhile on Main Street, the vast majority of investors still have their heads in the sand playing ostrich. Complacency is everywhere despite market losses of over 27% in the Dow of over 27%, 32% in the S&P 500, and 43% in the NASDAQ. I can’t remember a time such as this when risks were so prevalent, yet sentiment was so complacent. Wall Street keeps reassuring the general investment public that things will be okay. You often hear the mantra, "This is it, we have now hit bottom," and yet prices go lower. Some are selling, but we haven’t reached that panic state yet. We haven’t experienced a series of 90% down days, which are characteristic of bear market bottoms. Even yesterday, with the markets rallying, it was only a surface rally. Market strength was only skin deep. Declining issues beat advancing issues on both the NYSE and the NASDAQ. Down volume swamped up volume on the NASDAQ. There are no signs of market leadership emerging other than the subtle strength of gold. The markets will have to digest the beginning of third quarter earnings season which kicks off next week. Pro forma earnings have lowered to such a low level that companies will no longer need pole vaults to hurdle them. Comparisons on a pro forma basis to last year after the events of 9-11 will make this quarter look good. Pro forma profit targets have been lowered from 30% at the beginning of the year, 17% as of July, to today’s projections for little more than 5%. Still there is an even more important element to come into play. What will companies say will happen in the fourth quarter when estimates still remain too high? As actual results come in, the markets should be set up for greater volatility characterized by sudden plunges and parabolic lifts.

Today's Market
Today's headlines point to more stresses in the financial system and in the economy. Job layoffs were a common theme along with possible bankruptcies. Abbott Labs will cut 3% of its workforce. AT&T, the perpetual restructuring company, will cut 4.3% of its cable-television payroll. EDS will be sued by employees for a loss of $407 million in its employee’s 401(k) plan due to a drop in the company’s stock. SunTrust reported that it would take a $98.7 million charge for bad loans as non-performing assets rose by 14% to $594.7 million. TXU, the Texas power company, is asking banks to drop terms forcing it to pay $500 million should a European unit of the company default as energy trading plunges.

Meanwhile the day’s headlines point to more stresses in the financial system and in the economy. Job layoffs were a common theme along with possible bankruptcies. Abbott labs will cut 3 percent of its workforce. AT&T, the perpetual restructuring company will cut 4.3 percent of its cable-television payroll. EDS will be sued by employees for a loss of $407 million in its employee’s 401(k) plan due to a drop in the company’s stock. SunTrust reported that it would take a $98.7 million charge for bad loans as non-performing assets rose by 14 percent to $594.7 million. TXU, the Texas power company is asking banks to drop terms forcing it to pay $500 million should a European unit of the company default as energy trading plunges.

These are just today’s business headlines. On the political front, the socialist candidate Lula in Brazil is emerging as the likely winner of Brazil’s run off election. Venezuela is on the verge of a political coup as Hugo Chavez begins a political witch-hunt of his opposition and citizens riot in the street. Venezuela is the 4th largest oil exporter of oil to the US. A war against Iraq is looking more likely and the government is alerting us that renewed attacks of terrorism are possible. These are the kind of headlines that don't breed confidence in the markets.

This lack of confidence and risk in the financial markets explains much of gold bullion's strength. The latest sell off in shares of gold and silver companies is another leg of a wider sell off by weak hands into stronger hands. A lot of the share accumulation of precious metals stocks over the last few quarters has come from the day-trading crowd looking for a way to make a fast buck. They neither understand nor comprehend that they are dealing with a precious commodity that is returning to its historical role as money. Those in the know, and who have strong financial hands are accumulating at the expense of the ignorant and ill-informed. They will be back in the metals after they explode. Several key silver stocks are looking to break out as option spreads and short positions are unwound. The metals markets are a lot like a volcano. You never know when they are going to erupt. But when they do, it will be similar to the eruption of Mt. St. Helens. Gold and silver are commodities that are in short supply, with growing investment demand, and limited options for investment. When they take off, their rise will be parabolic -- not gradual. The residents below aren’t aware that the volcano is rumbling. Short-sellers, take care.

Today's market was predictable. The major averages suffered their broadest decline in over four years as many analysts lowered their profit expectations on GM and GE. The S&P 500 hit a new five-year low; while the venerable Dow closed below 7,300 -- something we haven’t seen since October of 1997. We seem to be slipping back to the past at ever increasing speeds. It also looks like the inevitable may have a possibility of occurring. After the market close, Moody’s Investor Services cut J.P. Morgan’s long-term debt rating one more level, citing the bank's inability to maintain acceptable profitability. As the bank's credit rating is lowered, it begins to raise the issue of counterparty risk. The downgrade is causing many of the bank's customers to take their business elsewhere because of Morgan’s growing risks. As earnings falter, it leads to more downgrades. At some point, the bank may be swamped as it finds itself with more at risk in the derivatives market than it has capital to support. Many experts estimate that the bank's value at risk runs in the tens of billions. A failure by Morgan could become the first of many ten-sigma events. For greater understanding of derivates I would suggest reading Rogue Waves Part II, and Rogue Waves and Standard Deviations Part 1 and Part 2.

Volume came in at 1.82 billion on the NYSE and 1.75 billion on the NASDAQ. Market breath was horrific with losers outdistancing winners by a wide margin, 28-5 on the big board and by 26-9 on the NASDAQ. We may be seeing the impossible. Time will tell.

Overseas Markets
European stocks fell, led by auto manufacturers including DaimlerChrysler and PSA Peugeot Citroen after Morgan Stanley lowered profit forecasts for companies in the industry. Fiat SpA dropped as company executives met with labor unions to discuss more job cuts amid sliding sales. The Dow Jones Stoxx 50 Index slid 0.5% to 2277.00, retreating for a fifth day. It has lost 7.4% since last Wednesday's close. Seven of the eight major European markets were down during today’s trading.

Japanese stocks fell, driving the Nikkei 225 Stock Average to a 19-year low for a fourth time this month. Mizuho Holdings Inc. and UFJ Holdings Inc. slumped to their lowest levels since they first started trading. The Nikkei lost 2% to 8539.34. The average has lost more than a fifth of its value in the past three months. The Topix index shed 1.9% to 844.29.

Bond Market
Government bonds remained well bid across the board as fixed-income investors reacted to more troubles for equities. The 10-year Treasury note climbed 17/32 to yield 3.57% while the 30-year government bond gained 20/32 to yield 4.66%.

© Copyright Jim Puplava, October 9, 2002



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
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To: Ken H
DJ Utilities took another hit today, down about 10%. Lowest level since '88.

I think the DJUA is telling us something:

 

            Dow Jones Utility Average 1974 - present


61 posted on 10/09/2002 8:33:13 PM PDT by Al B.
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To: Afronaut
Things ARE bleak. Ask anyone who has been out of work and had to look for a decent paying job. Jobs are scarce and you WILL be making less than you had before. My income has dropped back to 1996 levels. Kind of like the equities markets! Incredibly, real estate is booming. How is it that people think that buying over-priced houses is a good idea when the futures of their job and their neighbor's job are so uncertain? I guess its denial. Maybe insanity. Maybe just the Greater Fool Theory in action.
62 posted on 10/09/2002 8:33:58 PM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: Lunatic Fringe
He means a crash (i.e., a return that is 10 standard deviations below the mean -- a rare event).
63 posted on 10/09/2002 8:34:33 PM PDT by Mute
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To: Lazamataz
When the economic consequences of his inflationary, fiat money policies were pointed out to Keynes, his reply was similar to yours: "In the end, we'll all be dead."

Seems we have the same sorts of "statesmen" governing our affairs today.

64 posted on 10/09/2002 8:34:33 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Haven't checked the numbers, but I suspect that central banksters all over the world are selling gold out of their remaining reserves with both hands to keep the $ from going through the roof, displaying for anyone who cares to look that their fiat-money house of cards is tumbling down.
65 posted on 10/09/2002 8:37:16 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: rohry
(I wrote this a number of years ago when things were NOT going well with the economy. Trust me: They WILL get ugly once again as man -- or certain men -- cannot resist playing God. We continue to violate the universal, immutable laws of economics at our great peril.)

Despite the apparent economic strength of the American economy, history proves that EVERY house of cards eventually comes down. And the higher the card house, the harder the fall when it finally comes. And when it does, the more freedoms we will voluntarily surrender to "restore order." It was the Founders' concern about this historically valid problem which prompted their attempt -- now ignored -- to keep American "money" sound and honest.) Dick Bachert 1998

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The Forgotten History of Money
This is the fascinating story of the efforts by certain of the Founding Fathers to prevent the economic distress we find all about us today. It is also a sad story on the basis that modern, "sophisticated" Americans have abandoned the corrective institutional mechanism that remains in place to this day. As you read it, think about a world with many fewer S&L, banking and political scandals and economic problems now considered the norm.
"Blood running in the streets. Mobs of rioters and demonstrators threatening banks and legislatures. Looting of shop and home. Strikes and unemployment. Trade and distribution paralyzed. Shortages of food. Bankruptcies everywhere. Court dockets overloaded. Kidnappings for heavy ransom. Sexual perversion, drunkenness, lawlessness rampant. The wheels of government are clogged, and we are descending into the vale of confusion and darkness. No day was ever more clouded than the present. We are fast verging on anarchy and confusion. (George Washington in a 1786 letter to James Madison, describing the effects of fiat paper money inflation then ravaging America in the pre-Constitutional period.)

"The annihilation (of the paper money) was so complete that barber-shops were papered in jest with the bills; and sailors, on returning from cruises, being paid off in bundles of this worthless money, had suits made of it, and with characteristic lightheartedness, turned their loss into frolic by parading through the streets in decayed finery which in its better days had passed for thousands of dollars." (Contemporary writer, Breck, 1786)

"Paper money polluted the equity of our laws, turned them into engines of oppression, corrupted the justice of our public administration, destroyed the fortunes of thousands who had confidence in it, enervated the trade and husbandry, and the manufactures of our country, and went far to destroy the morality of out people." (Peletiah Webster, 1786)

At the drafting of the U.S.Constitution, there were many "Friends of Paper Money" present. On August 16, 1787, when the discussion arose on Article 1, Section 8, the proposed wording was this: "The Legislature of the United States shall have the power to...coin money...and emit bills of credit of the United States."

A hot argument ensued on the power to emit bills of credit, which is another way of saying "printing paper money".

Here are the actual words James Madison wrote describing the debate in his diary: "Mr.G.Morris moved to strike out *and emit bills of credit.* If the United States had credit, such bills would be unnecessary; if they had not, unjust and useless.

MADISON: Will it not be sufficient to prohibit the making them a tender? This will remove the temptation to emit them with unjust views. And promissory notes in that shape may in some emergencies be best.
MORRIS: Striking out the words will leave room still for notes of a responsible minister which will do the good without the mischief. The monied interest will oppose the plan of the Government, if paper emissions be not prohibited.
COL.MASON: Though he had a mortal hatred to paper money, yet as he could not foresee all emergencies, we was unwilling to tie the hands of the Legislature [Legislature = Congress].
MR.MERCER:(A friend to paper money) It was impolitic...to excite the opposition of all those who were friends to paper money.
MR. ELSEWORTH thought this was a favorable moment to shut and bar the door against paper money. The mischiefs of the various experiments which had been made, were now fresh in the public mind and had excited the disgust of all the respectable part of America. By withholding the power from the new Government, more friends of influence would be gained to it than by almost anything else...Give the Government credit, and other will offer. The power may do harm, never good.
MR.WILSON: It will have a most salutary influence on the credit of the United States to remove the possibility of paper money. This expedient can never succeed whilst its mischiefs are remembered, and as long as it can be resorted to, it will be a bar to other resources.
MR.READ thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as the mark of the Beast in Revelation.
MR.LANGDON had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words *and emit bills*".

The motion for striking out carried.

Historian George Bancroft later wrote: "James Madison left his testimony that *the pretext for a paper currency, and particularly for making the bills a tender, either for public or private debts, was cut
off.* This is the interpretation of the clause, made at the time of its adoption by all the statesmen of that age, not open to dispute because too clear for argument, and never disputed so long as any one man who took part in framing the constitution remained alive."

ROGER SHERMAN(1721-1793)should be a name familiar to every American. As familiar as Washington, Madison, Jefferson and Adams. He is the only man to have signed all 4 documents surrounding the formation of the United States of America: The Continental Association of 1772, The Declaration of Independence, The Articles of Confederation and The United States Constitution. He was a Judge of the Superior Court in New Haven, Connecticut, serving that office with distinction from 1766 until 1788. He served as Treasurer of Yale University from 1765 to 1776. He was renouned for his high intelligence and unswerving honesty and was described by John Adams "as honest as an angel and as
firm in the cause of American independence as Mount Atlas." He served in the U.S.Senate from 1791 until his death in 1793.

Why is Roger Sherman*s name unfamiliar? HE WAS AN ENEMY OF PAPER MONEY!! In 1751, Roger Sherman and his brother William sued James Battle for paying a debt to their shop in New Milford, Connecticut, in depreciating paper currency. Over a period of 15 months, Battle had charged "divers wares and merchandizes" amounting to 129 pounds of what
Sherman assumed were pounds of Connecticut "Old Tenor", a stable currency whose value were well-preserved by taxation taking it out of circulation. But Battle assumed the debt was denominated in pounds of ever-depreciating Rhode Island currency, tendered in same, and the Shermans took a beating in the payment and sued for recovery of loss by depreciation. The Shermans lost when Battle argued that he was merely following the accepted custom of the day. In 1752, Sherman wrote his book "A Caveat Against Injustice or An Inquiry into the Evils of a Fluctuating Medium of Exchange" indicting UNBACKED PAPER MONEY.

It was this experience that Sherman brought to the Constitutional Convention and prompted him to rise on August 28,1787 and propose new, more restrictive wording to Article 1,Section 10. The standing version under consideration was worded this way: "No state shall coin money; nor grant letters of marque and reprisal; nor enter into any Treaty, alliance, or confederation; nor grant any title of Nobility." (From Madison’s Notes of the Convention) "Judge Sherman and Mr. Wilson moved to insert the words *coin money* the words *nor emit bills of credit, nor make any thing but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts* making these prohibitions absolute, instead of making the measures allowable with the consent of the Legislature of the U.S. Mr. Sherman thought this a FAVORABLE CRISIS FOR CRUSHING PAPER MONEY. If the consent of the Legislature could authorize emissions of it, the friends of paper money would make every exertion to get into the Legislature in order to license it." Mr. Sherman*s and Mr. Wilson*s motion was quickly agreed to and became the supreme law of the land.

Some additional quotations to ponder:

"All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in the constitution or confederation, nor from a want of honor or virtue so much as from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation" (John Adams in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, 1787)

"I deny the power of the general government to making paper money, or anything else, a legal tender." (Thomas Jefferson)

"You have been doubtless been informed, from time to time, of the happy progress of our affairs. The principal difficulties seem in great measure to have been surmounted. Our revenues have been considerably
more productive than it was imagined they would be. I mention this to show the spirit of enterprise that prevails." (George Washington in a letter to the Marquis de LaFayette, June 3, 1790 AFTER the United States Constitution prohibited unbacked paper money at Article 1, Section 10)

"Since the federal constitution has removed all danger of our having a paper tender, our trade is advanced fifty percent. Our monied people can trust their cash abroad, and have brought their coin into circulation." (December 16, 1789 edition of The Pennsylvania
Gazette)

"Our country, my dear sir, is fast progressing in its political importance and social happiness." (George Washington in a letter to the Marquis de LaFayette, March 19, 1791)

"The United States enjoys a sense of prosperity and tranquility under the new government that could hardly have been hoped for." (George Washington in a letter to Catherine Macaulay Graham, July 19,1791)

"Tranquility reigns among the people with that disposition towards the general government which is likely to preserve it. Our public credit stands on that high ground which three years ago would have been
considered as a species of madness to have foretold." (George Washington in a letter to David Humphreys, July 20, 1791)

"It is apparent from the whole context of the Constitution as well as the times which gave birth to it, that it was the purpose of the Convention to establish a currency consisting of the precious metals.
These were adopted by a permanent rule excluding the use of a perishable medium of exchange, such as certain agricultural commodities recognized by the statutes of some States as tender for debts, or the still more pernicious expedient of PAPER CURRENCY." (Andrew Jackson, 8th Annual Message to Congress, December 5, 1836)

DESPITE WHAT YOU WERE TAUGHT IN SCHOOL, THE HISTORICAL RECORD IS CRYSTAL CLEAR: AMERICA WAS TO HAVE BEEN SPARED THE DESTRUCTIVE EFFECTS OF AN UNBACKED PAPER MONEY SYSTEM. MOST OF THE PROBLEMS WE FACE TODAY CAN BE TRACED TO WHAT ANDREW JACKSON CALLED "THE PERNICIOUS EXPEDIENT OF PAPER MONEY".

HISTORY TEACHES THAT AN "ARTIFICIAL" MONEY CREATES AN "ARTIFICIAL" WORLD WHERE THE PRICE FOR SOME ITEM...EVEN OUR MOST POPULAR WELFARE "PROGRAM"...CAN BE DEFERRED TO FUTURE GENERATIONS (OUR $11 TRILLION
NATIONAL DEBT) OR PAID WITH A "MONEY" CREATED OUT OF THIN AIR WHICH ROBS THE VALUE FROM THE MONEY WE MIGHT BE UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE IN OUR POCKETS AT THAT MOMENT (INFLATION). AND ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER
ABOUT INFLATION IS THAT IT IS NOT AN "EQUAL OPPORTUNITY" DESTROYER: THOSE FIRST IN LINE TO GET THEIR HANDS ON THE NEW MONEY ROLLING OFF THE PRESSES (THE MODERN FRIENDS OF PAPER MONEY) HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEND IT BEFORE IT LOSES ITS VALUE. THE LITTLE PEOPLE (THAT’S US, FOLKS!) FARTHEST DOWN THE LINE ARE THE ONES WHO FEEL THE FULLEST EFFECTS OF THIS DESTRUCTIVE PROCESS.
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Dick Bachert
Norcross, GA

66 posted on 10/09/2002 8:39:59 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Lazamataz
C'mon Laz., give us the big one.
tbird1
67 posted on 10/09/2002 8:40:26 PM PDT by tbird1
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To: tbird1; Lazamataz
'Tis scary when the big, bold, centered WAGD is a featured request :-)
68 posted on 10/09/2002 9:00:36 PM PDT by steveegg
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To: rohry; #3Fan
Sure looks like this thread is one of the few businesses that has picked up as of late.
69 posted on 10/09/2002 9:03:11 PM PDT by steveegg
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To: rohry
"These market wrapups don't get the hits they did a couple months ago."

I get FreepMail from many people that say they read the Market WrapUp but do not post. It's true that the Bulls have gone into hiding but I ping over 70 people every night for this post. I think most of them read it...

Some don't post because they think that they don't "have enough knowledge."

I'll give the reason I don't read this. All I read is DOWN DOWN DOWN and I get so tired of DOWN, I ignore this thing. So if you want to pull me off your list go right ahead. They don't know that we are all hacks...(laughing)

70 posted on 10/09/2002 9:39:45 PM PDT by teletech
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To: steveegg
"Sure looks like this thread is one of the few businesses that has picked up as of late."

At least it is interesting. ;0)

71 posted on 10/09/2002 9:52:51 PM PDT by cibco
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To: Al B.
I can't remember seeing such a divergence between the DJUA and the long bond as there has been over the last few months.
72 posted on 10/09/2002 10:15:05 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: teletech; Lazamataz
"All I read is DOWN DOWN DOWN and I get so tired of DOWN, I ignore this thing."

I'm about ready to agree with you. I can tolerate the "DOWN DOWN DOWN," to some extent. I wonder how some few can even type with all the foam and drool falling DOWN on their "bleepin" keyboards!!!

The self-righteous certitude blaring in UPPERCASE in endless replies from the "Keepers Of Odd Knowledge" Society are way over the top and more than I can stomach. It's enough of a "Malox Moment" without some few being almost gleeful in shrilly shreiking like chicken little!

Are some of the people here so thrilled over their dire SWAG's that they would be happy to see this nation pulled down in a (what the hell was that eupheumism for a crash), followed by a depression? If so... that's the same prayer that's on the terrorists lips!!! (or the UC Berkeley protestor, yellin... "Bring it all DOWN, maaaaaaaannnn!!!"

73 posted on 10/09/2002 10:25:29 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: Mute
Probably needs to be trashed and started from scratch.
74 posted on 10/09/2002 11:49:50 PM PDT by imawit
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To: rohry
Thanks for the wrap-up. Things are looking up a bit. This could be the bottom of the market.
76 posted on 10/10/2002 12:50:17 AM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: SierraWasp
Re #73

This crisis has been exacerbated by the idea that pulling out of overvalued market will ruin economy and the society in general. The more ominous the situation becomes, the more louder call for staying in market and stick to it no matter what. If many retreated 4-5 years ago, the damage can be serious but still much less than what we could have now. Each delay make things worse and make any thought of retreat painful to contemplate for some people.

The long stretch of denial brought us where we are now. Many here were simply speaking up because finally there is a visible vindication of their view that we have a huge bubble which could pop and do a lot of damage. Many of them have watched this market development with dismay as more and more people lose their mind and make things worse.

A lot of them got torrents of abuses heaped on for speaking up their mind. Some were booted out of this forum after nasty flame wars.

So called doom-sayers did not create this crisis. If they were heeded earlier, the crisis would have been more manageable. But they got shafted big time instead from all directions.

It is like calling mean-spirited those who predicted the doom of Soviet Union because such doom will bring about miseries to the Soviet people. According to your logic, we should not have been happy with the vindication of our views on Soviet Union which were constantly subject to unwarranted insults from the political left.

77 posted on 10/10/2002 1:09:19 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: tbird1; steveegg
C'mon Laz., give us the big one.

We're all gonna die!!!

78 posted on 10/10/2002 4:38:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Once upon a time - in October of 1974, actually - the DJIA was at 640. Lurid advertisements warned that Dow 200 was likely. Sadness and misery were widespread, and everyone knew that stocks were doomed.

That was the low point for the markets, and even today the DJIA is more than 10 times what it was a mere 28 years ago.

Might I add that October and November have, over the past century, been the best months to buy stocks? But a good month to buy stocks implies an intermediate term bottom.

Are there bumps in the road ahead? Sure. But from a decade long perspective, I have great confidence in the American economy. Pick up some shares of a quality, no-load mutual fund and put them back for the long term. Ten years from now, you'll be glad you did.

79 posted on 10/10/2002 5:06:52 AM PDT by neutrino
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"So called doom-sayers did not create this crisis. If they were heeded earlier, the crisis would have been more manageable."

Well said...
80 posted on 10/10/2002 6:57:52 AM PDT by rohry
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