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Jury awards former smoker $28 billion in punitive damages
boston.com ^
| 10.04.02
| Gary Gentile
Posted on 10/04/2002 12:58:30 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:08:23 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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LOS ANGELES (AP) A jury awarded a record-shattering $28 billion in punitive damages Friday to a former smoker who sued Philip Morris Inc. for fraud and negligence.
The Superior Court jury awarded the amount to Betty Bullock, 64, who started smoking when she was 17 and was diagnosed last year with lung cancer that has since spread to her liver.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cancer; lawsuit; punitivedamages; smokers; tobacco
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An in-law of mine just died of lung cancer (last month) caused by tobacco. Hmmm...
To: RedBloodedAmerican
Tort Reform NOW!! Start by Idiot-proofing Juries!!
SHEEEESH...MUD
To: RedBloodedAmerican
An in-law of mine just died of lung cancer (last month) caused by tobacco. Hmmm... Yeah, my grandmother died in 1976. She was a heavy smoker. My mother died of pneumonia resulting from Lupus, but cigarette smoking probably weakened her immune system (it certainly gave her a horrible cough).
Disclaimer: I don't actually believe I should receive cash from this settlement. But heck, if one guy gets 28 BILLION, maybe I could have enough to take some time off of work and hike the Pacific Crest Trail next year (as I plan on doing anyway)? Just ten thousand dollars, that's a drop in the bucket!
To: RedBloodedAmerican
Cigarette smoking warnings have been in effect since the early 1960s.
People who smoke for years knowing the full dangers of smoking and then suing while on their death beds are absolute morons and deserve to die painful, agonizing deaths.
To: ServesURight
And THAT is why we call you "ServesURight"!
To: RedBloodedAmerican
An in-law of mine just died of lung cancer (last month) caused by tobacco. Hmmm Here's what you should do: Sue the *state* for billions. Use the legal argument that since they left it legal, instead of banning such an obviously dangerous substance, they were selling out the health of your relative for the billions they were making in tobacco taxes, and sending the implicit message that smoking was a safe, legistlature-approved activity.
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posted on
10/04/2002 1:37:38 PM PDT
by
Dan Day
To: Dan Day
Not only did the STATE and GOVERNMENT not make it illeagle, they TAXED IT WHICH INDORSED IT AS SAFE. Go sue now.
To: RedBloodedAmerican
LET THE DA*N JURY PAY FOR IT THEN!I bet if juries had to pay for damages there would'nt be any lawsuits.
To: RedBloodedAmerican
Lawyer in court:
So, Mr. Jones, you ADMIT that you serviced the truck that delivered the fertilizer to the farmer who grew the tobacco that Phillip-Morris put in those cigarettes!!!???
To: RedBloodedAmerican
So, one is supposed to take such a nation seriously when it wants to unilaterially go to war? Like it or not, we're a nation of fools.
And doomed.
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posted on
10/04/2002 2:42:54 PM PDT
by
The Duke
To: The Duke
--headed for the trash heap of history by lawyers, dumbed down educators, and an apathetic, ignorant citizenry--
To: rellimpank
28 BILLION .....
To one person .. Who's been smoking since age 17.
Oh yeah. Fair. Just.
Part of that goes to her lawyer doesn't it?
(Now, how much the whole company worth?)
To: ServesURight
People who smoke for years knowing the full dangers of smoking and then suing while on their death beds are absolute morons and deserve to die painful, agonizing deaths. I can't agree that they are morons. They are smart enough to take advantage of state governments' phantom tax increase bonanza disguised as a war on the tobacco industry by using the real morons -- California's jury pool.
While I wouldn't say they deserve to die painful deaths, I certainly don't think they ought to be rewarded for choosing to believe the manufacturers over the warning of just about every doctor worth his/her license to practice -- and the Federal government. That warning from the Surgeon General has been staring them in the face every time they pull a "cancer stick" from its pack for a period spanning five decades.
Don't get me wrong. The guys at the head of the tobacco industry are criminals for concealing the truth, and they should be in prison for lying before Congress about their knowledge of the ill-effects of smoking and the addictiveness of nicotine. But the states, with their phony crackdown on the tobacco industry, are like crooked beat cops who take advantage of down-and-out prostitutes. They won't arrest the whores, but in return they can have their way with them whenever they want.
To: INSENSITIVE GUY
bet if juries had to pay for damages there would'nt be any lawsuits. Yup. Easy to give away money when it's someone else's money ain't it?
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
(Now, how much the whole company worth?) More to the point, ya gotta wonder how much this golden child made in here entire life that makes her such a valuable member of society to rate this kind of money!
What the hell did the jury do? pick a number out of a hat?
To: Robert A. Cook, PE
The lawyer probably gets 30 to 50%. I am sure this verdict will be overturned or greatly reduced as to the settlement. These amounts are insane. 28 Billion is probably about what Bill Gates is worth.
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posted on
10/04/2002 4:21:05 PM PDT
by
TheLion
$28 billion represented approximately 35 percent of PM's revenues last year. The jury is given that information, then told in arriving at the amount of such an award, they are to consider the reprehensibility of the conduct of the defendant, and the amount of punitive damages which will have a deterrent effect on the defendant in the light of defendant's financial condition.
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posted on
10/04/2002 4:36:29 PM PDT
by
DryFly
To: DryFly
So, 1/3 of the company's total annual income goes to one smoker? (Not net, not pre-tax gross, not even pre-tax profit, not even simple profit.... 1/6 of the annual income goes to the lawyer, and 1/6 goes to a single smoker.)
And somebody can justify this?
To: DryFly
Consider how many billions in investment dollars went away (in insurance funds, mutual funds, union retirement accounts, company retirement accounts, and individual accounts) due to the net efect of the DOW/S&P losses DUE TO THIS ONE LAWSUIT.
How many billions is a 10 point loss in the Dow worth?
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