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IF THEY WEREN'T SERIOUS, THIS WOULD BE HYSTERICAL
The Cigar Show ^ | 2 October 2002 | Chuck Cason

Posted on 10/01/2002 11:16:00 PM PDT by SheLion

The movement to get the Dallas City Council to pass a city ordinance to make ALL establishments 100% smoke free is gaining momentum. They advocate preventing a bar or restaurant owner to make his or her own decision about giving a choice to the customer. They advocate putting into LAW that you can't... CAN NOT... smoke anywhere in the City of Dallas. "Well, how about the cigar bar in Del Frisco's after a big steak dinner?"

Nope. In fact if they get this passed, they might come back and try to get a law passed that we can't eat a big steak dinner because they found a study that suggests that the side-effects of other people enjoying a steak is bad for "the children".

In fact, there is no stopping a group of people organizing, coming up with their own "research", and lobbying to take our rights away because they don't like what others do.

 I know that sounds ridiculous and that is why no normal citizen, who enjoys the rights that people before us fought and died for, ever thinks that anything as absurd as a law to take away any of those rights could be even considered as serious. That is where we have been wrong... dead wrong. It seems that advocates share a certain trait with politicians: they both feel the need to get "involved" with the issue of guiding our citizenry. In the meantime, our citizenry is comfortable knowing that our Constitution is protecting us so we can go about our daily lives working and enjoying life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Well, guess what? We were wrong.

There is a group in Dallas that is working hard to "ban" smoking in any establishment in the city limits.

They contend a restaurant owner has no business making a decision about his or her own policies. They think that the local government should decide what type of customers they should try to attract. This group has even stooped to the over-done, we-should-do-it-for-the-children-and-if-you-disagree-with-that-you-hate-children tactic.

 They wonder why when they are with their "children" (because after all, they are pro-family... aren't you?) and someone in a restaurant lights up, the government isn't there to protect the health of their family. They wonder why they are expected to make a decision not to go to that restaurant instead of making everyone around them change so they don't have to.

To find the wisdom in our system, it is often necessary to read what our leaders said a long time ago. It was Abraham Lincoln that had words for this situation:

"Those who deny freedom for others deserve it not for themselves".

Let me be clear. I do not smoke cigarettes. They are nasty and dangerous. There are probably many chemicals and poisons that are let out into the air by smoking. But I reserve the right to smoke one day, if I want to. I won't smoke at your church, school, or in your government building. If you don't allow it in your home, I will totally respect that. I won't smoke in your car, or even near you when I can... I am not rude. However, when I choose a restaurant that wants me as a customer so much as to have a section for me, and you want to go there too (because the food and service are great), we have both made a decision based on personal freedom. Since you have made that choice, why is it my fault that you aren't comfortable? Why do you insist that city government get involved to make sure your dining experience is more pleasant? If you walk by a club and the rap music from inside is so loud that it seems offensive, will you go inside? No, of course not, and you wouldn't run to the city council wanting a law against rap music.

You simply wouldn't go. Get it?

I am not even going to start in on the junk science and so-called "surveys" presented as "irrefutable fact" by this poster group for political correctness. I will give you the link to the web site. Twenty years ago this web site would have made a great satirical magazine. It would have shown, in a ironic way, how fanatics try to push their agenda using any scare tactic they can. Sadly, this is not satire. It is a group that will not be content until others behave the way they think they should. It is time for common sense to replace political correctness.

It is time that people realize a perfect world is not formed by laws.

 

Here is the web site. Enjoy. http://smokefreedallas.org/


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: antismokers; butts; cigarettes; individualliberty; michaeldobbs; niconazis; prohibitionists; pufflist; smokingbans; taxes; tobacco
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To: tpaine
Misrepresenting the law is one of the methods its enemies use to show their hatred for it.
461 posted on 10/05/2002 6:06:09 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Yes roscoe, you spend ALL of your time here, misrepresenting the constitution; --
-- and those of us gathered here to discuss its restoration.

Will you ever cease?
462 posted on 10/05/2002 6:11:28 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: SheLion
Misrepresenting the law is one of the methods its enemies use to show their hatred for it.

Thanks for the example.
463 posted on 10/05/2002 6:12:06 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: tpaine
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions...

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress...

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States...


464 posted on 10/05/2002 6:12:53 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
I once served with our CIC, and vowed to protect & defend our contitution, roscoe. -- Have you ever done so?
465 posted on 10/05/2002 6:16:42 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Deliberately and repeatedly misrepresenting the Constitution does it a disservice.
466 posted on 10/05/2002 6:20:13 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Yes, misrepresenting it as you do certainly does. Why don't you stop?
467 posted on 10/05/2002 6:43:34 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: SheLion
Ditter is a women and a disgrace to her sex, according to my advisor.

DITTER IS A SHE?????????? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO, missed your PING and all the excitement, wish I had of been here, I was getting worried there for a minute about you and farmfriend, glad it played itself out without a cat fight, she is right-on here in Kalif.....Keep up the chatter.

468 posted on 10/05/2002 7:13:45 PM PDT by jdontom
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To: ccmay
The vehemence of the militant smokers on this thread is just more proof of the depths of their addiction.

If you want to see vehemence, I suggest you visit an ANTI-SMOKERS SITE.

469 posted on 10/05/2002 7:54:22 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Just another Joe
Ready for your movie review?
470 posted on 10/05/2002 8:42:49 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Madame Dufarge
LOL A little tightly wound, are we Madame?
471 posted on 10/05/2002 8:46:32 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: metesky
What a mean thing to say. I wouldn't wish anything bad on you. ;9}
472 posted on 10/05/2002 8:48:42 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Roscoe
Good line.

It's over the hill, is soooo old.

473 posted on 10/05/2002 8:57:38 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Roscoe
You won't find spittoons in California restaurants either.

That one is as old and worn out as the pi..... in the pool, darn it, don't you guys have any imagination.

474 posted on 10/05/2002 9:02:12 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Roscoe
Even in a nation of unparalled freedom and property rights, there are miserable self-deluded ingrates.

You ought to step away from that mirror.

475 posted on 10/05/2002 9:08:55 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: tpaine
[Gotta love it when he outs his anti-constitutional agenda like this.]

Gee, looks like I have all the luck, this is the first time I have had the displeasure of meeting this fellow.

476 posted on 10/05/2002 9:20:26 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: FreeTally
I'm actually amazed that some anti-smoking zealot hasn't filed a class action suit against the parents of America on the behalf of the children.

LOL, not so loud, thats the one thing they havent thought of .... yet.

477 posted on 10/05/2002 9:26:04 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Ditter
tries to tell you something that you don't want to hear? Anyhow, the best to you & yours. Ditter %;9}

If you already know we don't want to hear, why are you bothering, the reason we don't want to hear is....... we don't believe the second hand smoke bs.

478 posted on 10/05/2002 10:00:06 PM PDT by Great Dane
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To: Ditter
What a mean thing to say.

Well boo freakin hoo! Drop dead.

I wouldn't wish anything bad on you. ;9}

I wish all the ill in the world on little control twirps like you and furthermore, thats the worst smiley I've ever seen. Have you no taste, style or class at all?

Take a hike.

479 posted on 10/06/2002 2:22:34 AM PDT by metesky
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To: metesky
NOW you have done it! Metasky, insulted my smiley! I'll get you for that, I'll hunt you down to the end of the internet. Thats a low blow, even for a dirty rat like you. You're a dead man Metasky! heh heh (sounds of evil laughter) (:9{
480 posted on 10/06/2002 5:49:11 AM PDT by Ditter
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