"Redneck" defends Jewish "settlement" in Israel!!! (My title)

Voice of Judea Mailing List, Chattanooga Times Free Press ^ | 9/30/2002 | Voice of Judea, Randall Higgins

[Zionist Conspirator]

Cleveland [TN] man defends Israeli West Bank town
International group of volunteers seeks to thwart terrorist attacks

Here is an article that just ran in the Chattanooga Times Free Press about one of the group here in Cleveland.

By Randall Higgins Cleveland Bureau

CLEVELAND, Tenn. A Cleveland man has joined an international group of volunteers to defend Israeli settlements from terrorist attacks.

Joel Swafford, who is not Jewish, is a member of a volunteer group called the Jewish Legion. Mr. Swafford, 34, works with a dog specially trained for tracking and bomb detection.

"It is something he has really wanted to do, Faye Swafford said about her sons volunteer work. Mr. Swafford, she said, is friends with people who put him in touch with settlers in the We st Bank.

Her son talked about joining the Jewish Legion for a year, Mrs. Swafford said, before signing on for six months. Although he arrived in the country only recently, she said, already there is talk of his staying longer.

Once a week, she said, Mr. Swafford calls home.

"I worry about him, but he seems so happy, she said. "I asked him if he really wanted to do this and he said Yeah, I do. The people are so cool. Mr. Swaffords 15-year-old daughter is staying with Mrs. Swafford here.

Jack Saunders, a member of a local group called Bnai Noach, said the Jewish Legion is a group of Jews and non-Jews who organized to guard Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

Of Bnai Noach, he said, "We basically adhere to somewhat of the Jewish beliefs. We are in contact with rabbis constantly, and we look to them as a source of information. Of course, Joel is a part of that. Many Israelis are hesitant to use trained dogs as part of their defense, Mr. Saunders said, because of the association with German concentration camps in World War II. The Jewish Legion, he said, takes on that role to save lives and secure the settlement towns.

"Joel had some experience with dogs and said he would be interested in going, Mr. Saunders said.

There is no government connection to the organization, Mr. Saunders said. And while there may be many people supporting it with donations from around the world, he said, "At last count, they had 30 legionnaires and 12 dogs. Of course, they are looking to expand as much as they can. The current legionnaire budget is $35,000 a month, according to its Web site, www.JewishLegion.net. The group is seeking donors to expand.

Mr. Swafford is in a settlement called Tapuach, about five miles from Shechem, Mr. Saunders said. Because it sits on a major supply route, he said, the location would be critical should there be a war with Iraq or Jordan.

E-mail Randall Higgins at rhiggins@timesfreepress.com

This story was published Monday, September 30, 2002

[Zionist Conspirator]

Though published in the Chattanooga Times Free Press, I cannot find the article in the archives at their web site. Perhaps it is too early to be included among their archives. I received the article in an e-mail from The Voice of Judea. My apologies for any confusion. And now for my comment.

TAKE THAT, YOU LIBERAL REDNECK-HATERS AND "PALAEO" JEW-HATERS!!! TENNESSEE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps the Nimrods at "liberty forum" and "original dissent" and the 'Avi Dershowitz's and Abe Foxmans whose worldview this shatters will comfort each other by pretending this situation doesn't exist. That is, after all, their usual strategy.

[E Rocc]

Mr. Swafford is in a settlement called Tapuach, about five miles from Shechem, Mr. Saunders said. Because it sits on a major supply route, he said, the location would be critical should there be a war with Iraq or Jordan.

Jordan and Israel have warm relations and a peace treaty that is a de facto mutual defense agreement. The primary thing that might threaten it, ironically enough, is the "settlements" themselves...which every Geneva Convention signatory nation except Israel sees as illegal.

-Eric

[SouthernFreebird]

Why is he called a redneck?

[Blood of Tyrants]

Because he stayed out in the sun too long without a hat?

[rmlew]

1. Illegal? Like Jordan's occupation of the West Bank from 1948-67?
2. How secure is the reign of the Hashemites over the PAlestinians? As with Egypt we are one bullet or coup away from a militant regime.

[VOA]

"Redneck" defends Jewish "settlement" in Israel!!!

In the words of Curley: "Hey, I resemble that remark!".

[stainlessbanner]

In this title, if redneck is intended to mean Southerner.....we have always accepted and appreciated our Jewish neighbors!

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

note the quotes around redneck.

[Eva]

I have been wondering why Israel wasn't using bomb sniffing dogs. Now, I have an answer. Israel should have one of these dogs on every city corner.

[FourtySeven]

Why is he called a redneck?

I'm sure some people consider the term redneck to be complimentary. Don't you? < /sarcasm >

[Alouette]

the "settlements" themselves...which every Geneva Convention signatory nation except Israel sees as illegal.

The Fourth Geneva Convention on Rules of War was adopted August 12, 1949 by the international community in response to Nazi atrocities during World War II. It was ratified by Israel in 1951. The international treaty governs the treatment of civilians during wartime, including hostages, diplomats, spies, bystanders and civilians in territory under military occupation. The convention outlaws torture, collective punishment and the resettlement by an occupying power of its own civilians on territory under its military control. In the fifty years since its adoption, the Fourth Geneva Convention has never been used to condemn world atrocities including those in Bosnia, Rwanda, Kosovo, Congo, Tibet, and other afflicted places.

Since 1997 the Arab group at the United Nations has been trying to invoke the Fourth Geneva Convention against Israel, in regard to its settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and in particular at Har Homa in Jerusalem. This is a tactic in the on-going Palestinian Arab attempts to undermine the Oslo "Peace Process". Rather than participate in bi-lateral negotiations as agreed in the Oslo Accords and successive documents, it is more satisfactory to the Palestinian Arabs to appeal for international condemnation of Israel.

Israel rejects applying the Fourth Geneva Convention to Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, stating that those territories were captured in 1967 as a result of a defensive war against Jordan and Egypt, countries which had illegally occupied them since 1948. Furthermore, it is Article 49 that is commonly cited to accuse Israel of violating the Fourth Geneva Convention.

But a close reading of Article 49 reveals that it prohibits "individual or mass forcible transfers" which are not happening in the territories under Israeli administration. Further, the Occupying Power is obliged not to "deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population" to territories under its control. The use of "deport" and "transfer" indicate that the Convention prohibits the Occupying Power from the active or forcible transfer of its own civilians.

Article 49 does not oblige Israel to prevent voluntary settlement by its civilian population just because Arabs don't like it.

It is also interesting to find in the Fourth Geneva Convention, in Art. 3 and elsewhere, prohibitions of murder, violence to life and person, and other acts that are commonly employed by Palestinian Arabs against innocent Israeli civilians. To date no one in the international community has made a formal protest against these Palestinian Arab tactics.

FOURTH GENEVA CONVENTION

[SJackson]

Two organizations that accept short term (as short as 2 weeks) volunteers.

VOLUNTEER FOR ISRAEL NOW

Volunteers for Israel

[VOA]

In this title, if redneck is intended to mean Southerner.....we have always
accepted and appreciated our Jewish neighbors!

uhhh...let's not paint history rosier than it was...

And we also won't make the mistake of liberals in painting it darker than it was.

Even as late as the Tulsa Race Riot, the KKK met in what was called "The Beeno Hall",
as in Be No N-gger, Be No Catholic, Be No Jew.

BUT...at the same time Jews were part of even small-town life in many parts of The South.
I remember even seeing part of a documentary on the Jewish population of Mississippi
and it seemed they were a pretty integral part of communities.
And a walk around the old grand houses in San Antonio near the former World's Fair grounds
reveals homes built by families with a pretty rich ethnic flavor...not much different
than what you'd see in West Los Angeles. I know it's presumptive of me, but I would not
be suprised if more than a few of those families in San Antonio were Jewish.

[SJackson]

You're right. Then again, other than Jordan for a few years, no sovereign power claims, or since Turkey has claimed, the West Bank, or Gaza. The land was taken from no nation. Annexation would be simple, the legality canard would no longer an issue.

[stainlessbanner]

The white hoods are only a small part of the population - in fact today, they are largest up North, not in the South.

I invite you to read about Judah P. Benjamin who served on the Confederate Cabinet.

Also, check out this recent article about Jewish History in the South: Jewish heritage kept alive in Mississippi

[E Rocc]

But a close reading of Article 49 reveals that it prohibits "individual or mass forcible transfers" which are not happening in the territories under Israeli administration. Further, the Occupying Power is obliged not to "deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population" to territories under its control. The use of "deport" and "transfer" indicate that the Convention prohibits the Occupying Power from the active or forcible transfer of its own civilians.

Article 49 does not oblige Israel to prevent voluntary settlement by its civilian population just because Arabs don't like it.

Let's look at it, from your link:

Article 49

Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons do demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.

The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.

The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and evacuations as soon as they have taken place.

The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.

The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

Okay, the bold part is the part you mentioned. It forbids, as you said "individual or mass forcible transfers". This is not the section that Israel is alleged to be violating. However, the proposed actions of the Kach types would violate this section.

Now take a look a look at the bold-italics section of the Article:

The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

Note that the word "forcible" is not applied to transfers. In fact "deport" means forcible transfer. That means that both forcible and voluntary transfers are forbidden.

In any case, that's the view of all the signatory nations including the US. The reason for the rule is clear, the idea is that occupied territories are to be returned eventually and mixing in permanent occupier settlements makes that difficult.

-Eric

[E Rocc]

The Czechs and french took back land taken by Germany, and sent their citizens packing, and Israel needs to do the same with your little boyfriends the pals - I wonder if we can find your name and address on Yasser's appointment book ("be sure & thank Eric for his constant disinfo on FR"...)

That's right, YOU HEARD ME:

BITE ME.

Maybe one of these days you'll be able to at least attempt to support your opinions like Alouette does instead of going off the deep end. Until that day, I'm not impressed.

-Eric

[dennisw]

Thanks for the links to Jewish history in the South.

 

Levy County Florida is named after this man--->

 

http://www.millennium-exhibit.org/profiles9.htm

David Levy Yulee

On a steamy summer day in 1845, David Levy Yulee, and forty-seven other Democratic delegates, arrived at the Madison Courthouse in Tallahassee. Most of them had come on horseback or by horse and buggy, some had traveled most of the way by boat. All were perspiring in the July heat. None were too surprised when all the votes had been cast and David Levy Yulee won the election. It had been a bitter contest of personalities. Opponents had claimed Yulee was the beneficiary of a corrupt bargain to ensure his position. Mud slinging included accusations that Levy profited from speculating in Indian war claims. Nevertheless he won by a vote of 41-16, proudly taking his seat as the first Senator from the new State of Florida, and the first Jew in United States history ever to hold that office.

David Levy was born on the island of St. Thomas, West Indies, on June 12, 1810. His father, Moses Levy was a Sephardic Jew from Morocco whose dream was to establish a refugee colony for Jews in Florida’s north central interior. He arrived in 1818 with his small son and a deed to 60,000 acres of land. He named his plantation New Pilgrimage and operated it as a communal organization, remarkably like the future 20^th century Kibbutz. During those years the family must have felt the alienation and estrangement of many uprooted Florida pioneers. At mid-century Florida had a population of 66,500 yet was home to fewer than 100 Jews. New Pilgrimage eventually failed, but Moses continued to direct his energies to humanitarian projects including the defense of Judaism and the abolition of slavery.

Growing up on a plantation in Florida’s interior had an interesting effect on David Levy Yulee. Against his father’s wishes he became an attorney and businessman. In both of these capacities his energies were always focused on facilitating the growth and development of the interior. He studied law in St. Augustine and was admitted to the bar in 1836. Attracted to politics, he was instrumental in securing Florida’s entry into the Union as the twenty-seventh state in 1845. His economic strategy to finance Florida’s statehood would have a tremendous impact on the central Florida wilderness.

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