Franklin Graham: Few realize America being 'Islamized'

Newsobserver ^ | September 26 2002 | TIM WHITMIRE

[tictoc]

I'm loving the way you are exposing yourself on this thread for all to see.

Beati sunt pauperi spiritu.

[Luke FReeman]

Bump and place me on the "list"!

Here's a "FYI" site you may appreciate!...

http://www.islam-in-focus.com/index.htm

[irv]

"In fact, I have argued to donors like the Saudis and others that they should have a little more say in how their money is spent," Ayoub said. "They don't have any say."

That's just not believeable. Given the subject matter, that makes this guy a suspect.

[Luke FReeman]

So mush for HTML auto-detected...

Here's a "FYI" site you may appreciate!...

islam-in-focus

[avenir]

Interesting take.

[freebilly]

add me to your ping list, please....

[mathurine]

Spitting on souls may be un-Christian, but mohammedans are purely murderous. Every day we read of the endless mayhem they engage in. There is no question but that the mohammedans are intolerant of every other kind of person; they are killing them as fast as they can, as well. Time for the mohammedans to back off, or for the rest of the world to kick their butts back into the dark ages-- but then, how do you kick medieval butts back any further than they already are?

[FreedomPoster]

America is not being "Islamicized."

Can you dispute any of the facts in Graham's statements? Where have you been for the last year? I know I've spent a fair amount of time learning about this warped, tyrannical, dictatorial political system that's masquerading as a religion and demanding we all submit.

[dennisw]

This guy just won't shut up! I love what he has to say.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

What makes you think he is ON Earth?

[Calico Cat]

You kick them back to the stone age, that's how.

[FreedomPoster]

but then, how do you kick medieval butts back any further than they already are?

Good question. Look at the Germans and the Japanese, pre-, during, and post-WWII, and then shift forward in time, and consider Afghanistan. It could be argued that Afghanistan is missing the opportunity to become the first country in history bombed out of the Stone Age.

[sinkspur]

Can you dispute any of the facts in Graham's statements?

Yes. Polls reveal that 90% of Americans classify themselves as "Christian." Muslims account for two percent of the American population.

Franklin would do better to buttress his fellow Christians.

I never heard his father, Billy, ever say one negative word against any other belief.

[aruanan]

I'm really disappointed in Franklin Graham. Unlike his father, who spoke of Christ and Him crucified, Franklin is running down another belief.

I think you need to read the Bible a little more carefully. Here is what Paul said about beliefs of others who weren't Christians:

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel-- 7which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
Galatians 1:6-9

8Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. 9But now that you know God--or rather are known by God--how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?
--Galatians 4:8,9

11Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished. 12As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
--Galatians 5:11,12

Here is what Jude said:

12These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm--shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted--twice dead. 13They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.

Here is what Jesus had to say about those who refused to acknowledge his authority:

42Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."
--John 8:42-47

[sinkspur]

I think you need to read the Bible a little more carefully. Here is what Paul said about beliefs of others who weren't Christians:

I think you need to look at Billy Graham, and learn from his example. He DID NOT DENIGRATE OTHER RELIGIONS! EVER!

I don't know Franklin, but he certainly doesn't have the crediblity his father does.

[syriacus]

Ayoub

[river rat]

"How unChristian!"

When the EVIDENCE throughout the world is that militant Islam is on a murderous campaign against non-Muslims -- would you have us do the "Christian thing" and offer the other throat?

You're a fool. Are you also Muslim.
I notice that most of the pro-Muslim posters have very little information about themselves in their profiles ---- are you still a "masked Muslim"

Perhaps you can tell me why so many heroic militant Muslims run about in the dark like cockroaches, with masks, killing unarmed women and children and then retreat to jump behind their womens skirts when men with weapons are about?


Christians are capable of defending themselves against the insane murderous cult called Islam , masquerading as a religion.
Islam initiated this attack - worldwide - and soon they will pay a terrible price..
The slaughter of those insane "militant Islamic murderers" can not come soon enough or in large enough numbers to satisfy me.

What would you have Christians, Hindus and other religious groups that have been targeted for Murder by Muslims?

Semper Fi

[syriacus]

Franklin Graham

From his Samaritans's Purse Newsletter

   When we went into Afghanistan last November, we knew that it would be both difficult and dangerous. Afghanistan has been a closed Muslim society for so long that it has been hard for Christians to be accepted there. And there was the ongoing threat of violence from rival warlords and remnants of the Taliban forces.

     But we didn’t hesitate, because we also knew it was an unprecedented opportunity to take God’s love into a country that has been in spiritual darkness.

     I am happy to report that in the last seven months God has blessed our work in Afghanistan, and He continues to use Samaritan’s Purse to show His love and concern for the Afghan people.

“I am personally grateful for the people who have sent this humanitarian assistance to our country. ... Samaritan’s Purse has set an example.”

     When our team arrived in northern Afghanistan, they quickly identified health care and education as the greatest needs. In Kholm, a city of about 120,000 people, there was one under-staffed and under-supplied clinic, and no hospital. Under the repressive rule of the Taliban, girls were not allowed to attend school. Boys could, but their schools were badly in need of repair.

     Today, Kholm has a new, 24-bed hospital staffed by doctors and nurses sent by Samaritan’s Purse as well as local Afghan personnel. One of our doctors recently performed the first surgery at the hospital, repairing the hand of a boy who was injured when he picked up the detonator for a land mine. There also is an expanded clinic that already has treated about 2,000 patients since mid-May. And we have rebuilt three schools where girls once again can dream of becoming doctors or teachers, and boys can look forward to a future of more than war, poverty, and repression.

     The hospital had its grand opening on July 15. General Suhilla Siddiqi, the Minister of Public Health from Kabul and one of the few females in the new Afghan government, attended the ceremony and said: “As an official of Afghanistan, I am personally grateful for the people who have sent this humanitarian assistance to our country. ... Samaritan’s Purse has set an example.”

MAKING A DIFFERENCE in AFGHANISTAN

     The hospital, clinic, and schools are a big help to the people of Kholm. However, Samaritan’s Purse is providing something even more vital. We are providing tangible evidence of Christ’s love.

     The governor of the province asked the meaning behind the name “Samaritan’s Purse.” Our team told him the Biblical story of the Good Samaritan and explained why we as Christians want to help the Afghan people. The next day, he introduced our team to some of the other leaders. He said, “Take care of them. They are very godly men.”

     The local military commander had religious leaders ask him what he thinks about the Christians working in the city. The commander said, “They are here to help us. Can you not see the difference in what they are doing?”

     The needs of the Afghan people are overwhelming, and our work is far from complete. Construction soon will begin on 600 permanent shelters to help resettle refugees. Another 15 schools need to be renovated or built from the ground up. We also would like to drill wells to provide rural villages with clean water for drinking and farming.

     Please pray that the works of our hands will bring glory to God and His Son, Jesus Christ.  

[twntaipan]

But note that the good Muslim professor does not deny the core of the challenge: Islam is free to do anything it wants in the USA, up to and including destroying the WTC and killing 2,500 people, while the Word of God, much less any Christian expression, will not be tolerated in Saudi or other Muslim nations.

Keith Parks, formerly a missionary in Indonesia and head of the Southern Baptist Foreign Mission Board (until 1992) has said that Islamization is about preaching tolerance (of different religions as we have in the USA) until such time as Muslims are the majority at which time they insist on Sharia law and impose Islam on everyone by force.

This very thing is happening in Nigeria and Malaysia and other countries.

Go Franklin go!

[Eastbound]

Two recent threads here fills in the blanks:

70,000 BAD GUYS

ROOTS OF TERRORISM