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Miss New Jersey's prejudiced question

Posted on 09/24/2002 6:49:26 PM PDT by max epr

Question: Is it true that, at the Miss America pageant, a question was asked of Miss New Jersey (Miss Lucia) about the Sopranos? No other Americans must put up with such insults. Since there's no one else to bash the dogs are unleashed against Americans of Italian without any hindrance. this site gleefully joins the chorus.


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KEYWORDS: bigotry; italianamerican; prejudice; sopranos
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1 posted on 09/24/2002 6:49:26 PM PDT by max epr
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To: max epr
"...this site gleefully joins the chorus"

Most Italians I know and work with (and there are several) also join the chorus and laugh about it all.

Don't take everything so seriously. Fact is, certain groups of people have certain stereotypes attached to them. Maybe they're grouped and stereotyped by race, maybe it's their profession, or maybe it's religion or nationality.

It's not necessarily fair and the stereotypes don't even need to be remotely accurate. It just is.

If you're a fellow freeper, then let's not fall into the same trap that some other groups have found themselves in. Life's too short and there's too much to accomplish.

2 posted on 09/24/2002 6:55:21 PM PDT by Lloyd227
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To: max epr
I'm of German descent and Nazi movies don't offend me a bit.
3 posted on 09/24/2002 6:57:01 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: max epr
There's a reason why they film "The Sopranos" in New Jersey.

It's also worth noting that a corrupt, disgraceful Italian-American piece of sh!t like New Jersey senator Robert Torricelli doesn't to much to dispel any stereotypes about Italian-Americans.

(In case anyone is wondering, I'm an American of Irish descent who is perfectly willing to accept any similar sterotypes of Irish-Americans. A bloated, drunken slob like Ted Kennedy doesn't do much to dispel these stereotypes, either.)

4 posted on 09/24/2002 7:01:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
is it hard to type while holding that bottle?

that's a joke... just kidding...
5 posted on 09/24/2002 7:03:49 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: max epr
I agree that was a total outrage....

Imagine thinking that everyone in the country watches that show...

I am outraged.

6 posted on 09/24/2002 7:06:37 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: max epr
The Italian mob stereotype works good on TV. I just bought a history of the mob centered around Legs Diamond. Until the about the time of the death of Meyer Lansky the mob was run equally on the national level by a coalition of Italians and Jews. You don't see movies or TV series centered on people such as Siegel, Buchalter, Cohen, etc. If there ever were an attempt at such a thing the Anti-defamation league would bring suit.
7 posted on 09/24/2002 7:07:47 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Arkinsaw
I hear you. My God, man, my surname is French.
That's worse than German!
8 posted on 09/24/2002 7:12:22 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Texas_Jarhead
LOL. The bottle isn't the issue -- the biggest problem is lifting my head up off the keyboard so that I can type a message that doesn't look like this:

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(Note that these are all keys in the middle of the keyboard, indicating a perfect drop of the head.)

9 posted on 09/24/2002 7:13:16 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: RLK
Can't sleep without showign your bias against the Jews?

Rent a movie "Once upon a time in AMerica."

But then, again, facts don't matter to you, do they?

10 posted on 09/24/2002 7:14:04 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Krodg
"Imagine thinking that everyone in the country watches that show..."

I've never seen it once.

11 posted on 09/24/2002 7:15:06 PM PDT by blam
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To: RLK
You don't see movies or TV series centered on people such as Siegel, Buchalter, Cohen, etc.

Ummm, yes you do. You don't recall the movie "Bugsy" that came out a few years ago? Plenty of films have been made about Lansky, Seigel and other Jewish mobsters. Still more if you watch the History Channel or the Discovery Channel.

They didn't have the impact that the "Godfather" movies have had (and their multiple offsprings) so the Italians get more ink about mob ties than the Jews do but the Jews have had their share (There was Hyman Roth in the Godfather movies too).

I'm neither so it's not my issue. If you really wanted to fight stereotyping, you might take umbrage at the fact that most of the Jewish mobsters were portrayed as shrewd businessmen.

12 posted on 09/24/2002 7:17:40 PM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: TopQuark
Rent a movie "Once upon a time in America."

A movie? Man, an epic! One of my favorite films of all time, up there with "Once Upon a Time in the West."

Both made by one of my fave moviemakers, Sergio Leone. A great Italian gentleman, to boot! :-)

13 posted on 09/24/2002 7:21:41 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: max epr
Waaa. Go start your own Jesse Jackson professional whiners organization.
14 posted on 09/24/2002 7:23:58 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: Lloyd227
Fact is, certain groups of people have certain stereotypes attached to them.

Being 25% Basque I have people ask me if I am related to sheep, I smile, and tell them "Only by marriage".

15 posted on 09/24/2002 7:28:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: max epr; Flyer; bobbyd; Humidston; COB1; PetroniDE; TWfromTEXAS; Dog Gone; bgsugar
I agree, do you have any idea what a rotten name Walter Matheu gave to honest, hard working Curmudgeons?
16 posted on 09/24/2002 7:29:55 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: max epr
I watched Miss America. All of the contestants (still in the running) were asked the same question.
17 posted on 09/24/2002 7:31:38 PM PDT by encm(ss)
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To: RLK
You don't see movies or TV series centered on people such as Siegel, Buchalter, Cohen, etc. If there ever were an attempt at such a thing the Anti-defamation league would bring suit.

Yes you do. There was a movie about Meyer Lansky starring Richard Dreyfus. Also there was a movie about Murder Inc., starring Peter Falk. Oh, and there definitely was a movie about Bugsy Siegel starring Warren Beatty (lousy movie).

18 posted on 09/24/2002 7:36:51 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: TopQuark
Uh, for years on TV there was a series called The Untouchables. It was colloqially known as "Cops and Whops." There has never been anything like this and similar series about jews.

While you can point out secondary figures in a few movies in an attempt to show your behind, the overall pattern is clear.

19 posted on 09/24/2002 7:37:14 PM PDT by RLK
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To: encm(ss)
Why??
20 posted on 09/24/2002 7:38:03 PM PDT by Krodg
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