Posted on 09/23/2002 4:11:58 PM PDT by KMC1
Of course none of us are perfect, but God also calls us to a certain standard of morality.
There are only a few exceptions for divorce and remarriage in the Bible, and "it just didn't work out" and "I fell in love with someone else" aren't listed.
In fairness, there WAS A TIME when Christian pop-metal Bands put out music every bit as cool as Black Sabbath's "War Pigs". (Which is sayin' something -- a lot, in fact)
The time was twenty years ago, and the band (who were distinctly referring to themselves as a "christian band" at the time, what with the success of Stryper and all) was the Irish Catholic band U2.
Now, you may object, that U2 has not called themselves a "christian" Band in the last 20 years. I would point out, however, that U2 has not put out a stitch of plausibly Good Music in the last 20 years!!
Coincidence? You be the judge.
But both "Christian" and "Secular" Music has been an absolute spiritual wasteland for at least the last Ten Years.... and of that, I'll be the judge.
best, OP
I was just sent the Dischord 20th anniversary box set.
I'm officially old.
..well good old Vince, good old Christian Vince of the now AMy and Vince matchup.
..well, good old Vince decided to show so much respect for my little American city that he just had to go carousing at the local, sleezy strip bar, one so special that a man got shot there just a year or two earlier....
I lost my respect for good old Vince then...its one thing to carouse in your own town but to come and make a scene in other people's cities or towns is a bit conceited to me...
I would love to ask good old Vince back again, and maybe he can take Amy and his dtr to the strip bar with him....
You mean they would've reacted like Nathan?
"Thou art the man." (Hint: he wasn't saying "you da man!")
Wow, talk about honest!
My wife went to school and attended church with Amy while she was at Vanderbilt and they were on a first name basis. Our first date was going to a Amy Grant concert, and we had just abut all of her albums.
Amy's divorce was a terribly sad thing as are all divorces, but Amy's was one a lot of people saw coming. I think her song Baby Baby was when we really felt like something bad was happening.
I guess people can make up any excuse they want in order to get divorced, but for most part it comes down to standing by the commitment you make to each other and God.
I grew up in a Catholic family and my parents fought terribly with one another. It was pretty frightening at times, but in the end my Dad never cheated in spite of all the travel he did and my mother always stood beside him in the darkest moments. Divorce was just simply never a word that was ever used in their house.
My wife and I have certainly had tough arguments but in the end I decide that I love her and then I simply remember the way I felt when I first met. I then sit her down, remove her shoes and give her a foot rub. That is the end of the battle, I serve her out of love and she tells me what a great husband I am out of respect. Wives want to be loved and husbands want to be respected.
I am again sorry Amy went through with her divorce the emotional and spiritual scars on her, her ex husband and most of all their children can never be taken away and she will have to live with that.
We have never bought another Amy Grant album and ones we lose will not and have not be replaced, she made her choice and we have made ours. Amy made a descion not support what we believe so I do not feel obligated to support her in what she believes and I don't think we are alone in this type of response.
Regards,
Boiler Plate
Amen to that. Kind of like junk food.
Sorry, but most wounds in life are self-inflicted. I know far too many people who see only one side of a person and ignore the things they don't like. Love multiplies this partial vision. Then, ten years later, when the guy or gal they married isn't as handsome or exciting or [fill in superficial quality here] as they used to be, and all of the negative quilities that were there all along have become impossible to ignore, these short-sighted lovers want my sympathy. Sorry, love doesn't have to be blind...
It is my understanding that adultery is the only "escape clause" mentioned in the Bible to justify divorce of a marriage joined before God. That is a very difficult thing for Americans to accept in today's society and is frequently rejected as too narrow and archaic.
In my view, we Americans have too often placed our own personal pleasure on the highest altar, equating personal pleasure with happiness. Ironically, a lot of suffering rides along with that pursuit of pleasure.
One side note here --- don't make the common mistake of equating forgiveness with a pardon (i.e. stripping away all the consequences).
As a simple example of this - suppose my young ones do something that not only breaks the rules, but makes me angry as well. When I later forgive, I will no longer be angry. But that doesn't mean that consequences will no longer be enforced. (That can be hard for them to fathom - the fact that I've apologized for yelling at them, but still insist on grounding them for their infractions!)
The fact that God can forgive us but still enforce consequences for sin is a concept that many/most Christians have a hard time wrapping their mind around as well.
In the case of Amy/Vince, I can totally understand any Christian who decides to stop buying their music out of feelings of sorrow and of a desire to only bring good role models (for their kids) into their homes. Now, if the motivation to stop buying those CD's was purely out of anger, then you WOULD likely be correct in criticizing them for "not forgiving," as you have done here. But it's not clear to me from their postings just what their motivation might be. Are you quite certain you know?
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