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She Used to Be So Nice! (NYMag claims Rosie Mag Circ Plummeted Because Rosie Came Out!)
New York Magazine ^
| September 30, 2002
| Simon Dumenco
Posted on 09/23/2002 2:45:05 PM PDT by Timesink
Edited on 09/23/2002 5:34:08 PM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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To: Timesink
Looks like "Lesbian Chic" is destined for the trash heap. I mean, how chic is it to emulate Rosie O'Donnell? She's the poster child for frumpy, abrasive, and dim-witted. And most lesbians already have those traits down perfectly.
Anybody with good taste would give her a wide berth. In fact, they'd give her the whole Pullman. And she'd need every inch of it!
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posted on
09/23/2002 4:17:10 PM PDT
by
IronJack
To: avenir
I think she appealed to a certain type of woman (let's face it, her audience was predominantly women). She is not attractive, she doesn't have a great figure, she's dysfunctional, etc. How could you watch her and not feel superior (other than her bank account)? There are a lot of people who will swallow any line of feel-goodism, no matter the source. Just look at Disney.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Let's see. Ellen "comes out" and her show tanks. Rosie "comes out" and her magazine tanks. Trend or coincidenceAnd Ellen's ex-girlfriend goes straight, gets married, has a baby and now her career flourishes. Those unfeeling American consumers appear to be voting with their dollars!!
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posted on
09/23/2002 4:25:10 PM PDT
by
pfflier
To: pfflier
And Ellen is the new recurrent center square on The Hollywood Squares show.
It is an odd choice and will doom the show.
To: Paul Atreides
The Ellen Show, when it first came out (ouch, scratch that) debuted was genuinely funny, because it was an ensamble comedy of several funny cast members. But when the ratings didn't peak, they dumped the good characters and it all became about me, ME, ME! (They screwed up the old "Doc" show, the one with Bernard Hughes, the same way. Great show, disappears for the summer, comes back with only one of the main actors!)
I liked Rosie in "League of Our Own", in the boyish female ball player. But gradually, as I aged, I discovered that usually, most often, the boyish girls ARE lesbians. (What a sad discovery! I was really pissed when I found out the actress in "Dobie Gillis" turned out to be a carpet muncher.) It does make you feel a bit betrayed.
Still, you can hold your breath until you turn blue before any of the mainstream limp-wristed media come out and say, "Hey! The public generally doesn't want homosexual characters on their television." You will note that last season the broadcast media and the cable shows had 16 characters in production that were gay or transexual, and this year it is down to 8. Something else you won't hear...
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posted on
09/23/2002 5:05:08 PM PDT
by
50sDad
To: All
I'm now inclined to believe that Rosie "adopted" to use the tyke for promoting her agenda and for no other reason.
Does she love the kid..likely 'cause that's what kids do best...give free love. Rosie is only a "taker" though out to promote homosexuality and uses the kid as a "commercial".
Sac
To: Timesink
Rosie announces the launching of her new magazine . . .
Bitter Homos and Garters
To: avenir
I'm still scratching my head as to how Rosie O'Donnell came into that level of success in the first place. Simple. Her biggest talent is kissing celeberty ass. When she tells a guest,"I'm a big fan of yours",she means this literally. "Stars" have huge egos to start with,and you can never go wrong with one by sucking up to them. Rosie got her start eating Madonna's carpet,and that got her in the movies and mainstream attention. If it hadn't been for Madonna,she would still be living at home and working for minimum wage. She's not very smart,and she's not very funny.
To: Sacajaweau
I'm now inclined to believe that Rosie "adopted" to use the tyke for promoting her agenda and for no other reason. Yup,she wanted to pretend she was a "normal mom". I don't know if it's true or not,but there were rumors going around that the reason she started butting heads with the magazine editors was because she wanted to turn the magazine into a showplace for homosexual adoption. Seemed like every cover ofthat mag that I saw had her photo on it.
Does she love the kid..
"THE" kid? She has at least 3 now. She had one more,but returned the little girl when she discovered she had bought faulty merchandise.
Rosie is only a "taker" though out to promote homosexuality and uses the kid as a "commercial".
You got it,"Lookit me! I'm NORMAL!"
To: avenir
I cannot believe there is a person in America, not in a coma, who didn't already know that she's a lesbo.
As a gay man, I'm convinced that Rosie "came out" because the only people who hadn't figured out that she was a lesbian were the people who watched her show.
Lesbian or not, I'm still scratching my head as to how Rosie O'Donnell came into that level of success in the first place. She seemed grating, unfunny and insincere as a talk show host.
See above.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
A bear has no reason to go over the same mountain twice.
To: ShorelineMike
She stopped having to kiss *** the day she came out.
To: catonsville
That is because Whoopie Goldberg runs the show. She is not there for any reason other than she is a Hollywierd charity case. Ellen Degenerate is and has been history since her "auto-outing experience"
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posted on
09/23/2002 7:01:49 PM PDT
by
pfflier
To: Sacajaweau
Personally, I have to wonder about a person, such as Rosie, who is so obsessed with children. Her production company was called KidRo, and featured a drawing of her as a child. Now, look at Michael Jackson, someone who could have his own chapter under Peter Pan Complex. Then, I think about homosexual men wanting in the Boy Scouts so badly. We've already seen what they have done by becoming priests.
To: IronJack
>Looks like "Lesbian Chic" is destined for the trash heap.
The only trend to disappear any faster was the one where women were supposed to actually like smoking cigars.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
Like Ellen Degenerate, Rosie came out to try to save her lucrative TV show that was tanking. Oops...didn't work. LOL
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posted on
09/23/2002 10:29:59 PM PDT
by
brat
To: Dialup Llama
The only trend to disappear any faster was the one where women were supposed to actually like smoking cigars. Now if we could get rid of the one where women think looking and acting like men is somehow sexy ...
I love the idea of a 98-pound beach bunny kicking the snot out of the Bad Guys using cheerleader moves and fierce looks. You know, the "Dark Angel" syndrome.
Uh huh.
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posted on
09/24/2002 4:04:17 AM PDT
by
IronJack
To: Timesink
I have to tell you, my wife is a strong conservative, but she is an avid reader of womens' mags, mostly for medical but also food/recipe items. She is fully aware of spin.
She LOVED Rosie's mag, said that it had lots of good recipes, was quite like Good Housekeeping, and NOT like all the "Cosmo/Redbook" mags which had article after article on attaining a great orgasm.
I know there are a LOT of Rosie-haters here. But my wife tells me that she never ONCE preached or even alluded to lesbianism or pro-gay issues; that she has never done so on her show; that she not only fully recanted her opposition to Bush but has repeatedly called him a "great president" on her show; and has tongue-lashed people who criticized him on her show. She also apologized for her attack on Tom Selleck, and while I understand that her wording (I didn't see this) was not a full mea culpa, she nevertheless admitted it was wrong and that she was just caught up in the emotionalism of Columbine.
Jokes aside, I think that is a pretty big person to make those admissions. Some people here never forgive. And what she has said about some things don't change the sin of her lesbian lifestyle. But I think for conservatives to be credible, we have to give credit where credit is due. People who have never read her mag have no right commenting on it.
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posted on
09/24/2002 4:45:49 AM PDT
by
LS
To: Oldeconomybuyer
There is a big difference here: Ellen USED her show as a pro-gay advertising vehicle. Rosie never, ever, endorsed, advocated, advertised, or in any way hinted in her MAG a preference for pro-homosexual issues. Have you ever read the mag? My wife, a conservative, tells me it was one of the best womens' mags out there, and totally unlike "Cosmo" or "Redbook."
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posted on
09/24/2002 4:47:25 AM PDT
by
LS
To: Paul Atreides
You are right, but have you actually WATCHED her show since 9/11? I have, because my wife often has it on. She did a total 180 and frequently supported Prs. Bush. Moreover, her show, UNLIKE most of the others, NEVER got political after 9/11. She kept it to celebs, recipes, decorating, and kids.
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posted on
09/24/2002 4:49:15 AM PDT
by
LS
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