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To: avenir
I think she appealed to a certain type of woman (let's face it, her audience was predominantly women). She is not attractive, she doesn't have a great figure, she's dysfunctional, etc. How could you watch her and not feel superior (other than her bank account)? There are a lot of people who will swallow any line of feel-goodism, no matter the source. Just look at Disney.
22 posted on 09/23/2002 4:20:18 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
The Ellen Show, when it first came out (ouch, scratch that) debuted was genuinely funny, because it was an ensamble comedy of several funny cast members. But when the ratings didn't peak, they dumped the good characters and it all became about me, ME, ME! (They screwed up the old "Doc" show, the one with Bernard Hughes, the same way. Great show, disappears for the summer, comes back with only one of the main actors!)

I liked Rosie in "League of Our Own", in the boyish female ball player. But gradually, as I aged, I discovered that usually, most often, the boyish girls ARE lesbians. (What a sad discovery! I was really pissed when I found out the actress in "Dobie Gillis" turned out to be a carpet muncher.) It does make you feel a bit betrayed.

Still, you can hold your breath until you turn blue before any of the mainstream limp-wristed media come out and say, "Hey! The public generally doesn't want homosexual characters on their television." You will note that last season the broadcast media and the cable shows had 16 characters in production that were gay or transexual, and this year it is down to 8. Something else you won't hear...

25 posted on 09/23/2002 5:05:08 PM PDT by 50sDad
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To: Paul Atreides
So anyone who makes you feel good is a phoney? I'm not into "Oprah-izing," but I didn't see that Rosie was overly "feel-goodish." Even if she was, however, isn't that a MAIN point of entertainment?

And if we are judging entertainers on looks, since when was Jack Benny or Milton Berle, or the Smothers Brothers, or Red Skelton great looking? If what my wife tells me is accurate, Rosie's show was excellent because it did not deal with a lot of heavy issues, but focused on celebs, recipes, house-related stuff, some medical, and kids. As long as she kept her lesbianism out, which she STRICTLY did, I don't see any difference in this and "Regis and Kathie Lee' or any other show. Not my cup of tea, but I certainly wouldn't say everyone who watches those are "dysfunctional."

41 posted on 09/24/2002 4:53:19 AM PDT by LS
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