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Chicago Catholics to Protest "Blasphemous" Cartoon -- September 25
The Illinois Leader ^
| September 20, 2002
| The Leader - Chicago Bureau
Posted on 09/23/2002 4:53:06 AM PDT by Preston Noell
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To: Romulus
Here are a couple of Biblical quotes on homosexuality that I have never seen cited on FR:
KI1 14:22 And Judah did evil in the sight of the LORD, and they provoked him to jealousy with their sins which they had committed, above all that their fathers had done. KI1 14:23 For they also built them high places, and images, and groves, on every high hill, and under every green tree.
KI1 14:24 And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.
[Snip]
KI1 15:11 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father.
KI1 15:12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
IMO, this could easily go the other way, too. I mean, what if it's done in a sarcastic point of view? What if the cartoonist is pointing out that this is what the uninformed public wants the RCC to become?
I doubt that's his point, but I just thought I'd throw that out for discussion.
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posted on
09/23/2002 8:48:17 AM PDT
by
al_c
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To: Preston Noell
"...C. Preston Noell, head of the TFP's Chicago Bureau asks, "If this cartoon does not awaken our holy outrage, can we still consider ourselves Catholic?" ...Oh, how are the mightly fallen! It makes a person want to cry.
This wheezing, flabby, girlie-poo-poo hissy fit over a fourth-rate CARTOONIST is all that is left in the United States of the greatest human instituiton ever devised; whose handiworks included the greatest disputes over the very nature of human beings; the greatest artistic depictions of man's dignity; the greatest musical achievements; in fact, the greatest IDEA for a God ever imagined (or intuited)--for those to whom faith does not come naturally.
And on another front a representative of the Church is accepting an apology from a fourth-rate hollywood actor who played Superman, for some comments he made about his tragically parylyzed brain.
The horror. The horror.
It's even more horrible than I thought it was going to be.
To: Preston Noell
Well, there's a lot in the Catholic Church I don't agree with,but I find the "cartoon" to be hateful, vile, obscene and ,yes, blasphemous. I can just imagine what the response would be if the "cartoonist" had suggested islamic PR changes!
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posted on
09/23/2002 8:55:12 AM PDT
by
texson66
To: GodsTraveler
" Why is it that people are so surprised by the total lack of decency homosexuals possess?" In answer to your question, I think homosexuals are just sexually disabled and people who see it are not surprised.
I see that you took the time to complement FF578 yesterday on a thread after he had been criticized right there for proposing the execution for homosexual behavior (as well as for premarital sex, pornography and blasphemy) on a previous thread.
Do you also support these proposals as well?
Please note, I took the time to answer your question.
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posted on
09/23/2002 8:59:39 AM PDT
by
elfman2
To: BlueNgold
"...In light of the recent bad press for the catholic church saying that satire like this is an offense to the sensibilities of the church is not going to register with a lot of people....So the corporate conformist press dictates the proper sensibiliites of a lot of people in this, the best of all possible democracies--eh?
And then people wonder how mohammedan mass murderers could even THINK of doing what they did on September 11th, 2002.
Some people are so intellectually and morally disengaged that they leave very few civilized means of registering outrage--get the picture?
When Catholics men had hair on their chests we used to register very well indeed---even with the terminally tone deaf.
To: Carry_Okie
Was 41 intended for me or someone else?
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:02:56 AM PDT
by
Romulus
To: Zon
LOL! This was just the comment to make the morning.
Thanks.
To: TxBec
The Roman Catholic Church is one of the primary reasons we have free speech. The abuses of the people by the church and churchmen prompted a revolution known as the Reformation. The Reformation and the resulting freedoms were transported to America where they flourished.
The cartoon was mocking the Catholic church as a dogmatic institution.
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:11:15 AM PDT
by
bert
To: concerned about politics
I do not understand what you are talking about.
PJPII will NEVER be *politically correct*. The Catholic church is NOT liberal.
To: NYer
How does one get on the Catholic List?
To: Romulus
It was not specifically "for you" but related to that adolescent permisson for aberrant behavior and what God means when he calls it "an abomination."
To: NYer
I for one find this to be typical of the medias consistent denigration of the Catholic faith. It is totally incomprehensible to the politically correct left that Catholic's have such strong faith in Christ. There has always been such a harrange and always will be. We will just continue to live ordinary or extraordinary lives in the face of this barrage.
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posted on
09/23/2002 9:19:47 AM PDT
by
Surge-on
To: DallasMike
Thanks Mike. I'm a Catholic and I thought it was horrid.
To: concerned about politics
Putting Christ in the picture, I feel, was the part that went too far. He had nothing to do with it. He was the one who warned them about liberalism over 2000 years ago. Had they listened, they wouldn't be the butt of jokes today.
A drawing of a statue of Jesus has nothing to do with Jesus except for the point of the cartoon which is what would happen if a church were to try to peddle its message to the masses by PR that appealed to LCD appetites: a buffed Jesus, not a man of sorrows acquainted with grief; yummy chocolate chip communion wafers, not the body of Christ. The only way anyone could possibly imagine this cartoon to be offensive or "blasphemous" is if that person were illiterate and unthinking. Actually, the person who would find this cartoon offensive would be the same type of person who found offensive the way Jesus described the Pharisees as whitened sepulchres.
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09/23/2002 9:32:01 AM PDT
by
aruanan
To: Preston Noell
Preston Noell signed up 2002-09-23.
To: Surge-on
We will just continue to live ordinary or extraordinary lives in the face of this barrage. Will they continue to molest young boys and keep their homosexual outreach program prohibited by Bible docterine, too?
Will they add gay nuns?
I find it odd the Catholics are so outraged by a cartoon in a small newspaper, but so forgiving of homosexual pedophile priests.
One destroyed the immortal souls of hundreds of innocent children, the other just black ink on a piece of paper. What's really the worst of two evils? Hello?
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