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Defying Ann Coulter
http://www.intellectualconservative.com ^ | Thursday, 19 September 2002 | Brian S. Wise

Posted on 09/19/2002 5:08:10 PM PDT by BrianS.Wise

Every once in awhile, someone says “no” to Ann Coulter, and a light-duty controversy ensues; typically you’ll see debate whenever some odd person or organization has the nerve to refuse a prominent woman’s desires, demands and / or opinions (e.g. the recent controversy over female memberships at Augusta National), but things are always different when Ann Coulter is the woman in question. The newest controversy began with a column, “Battered Republican Syndrome,” in which she fired off the following salvo:

“This [the Kennedy family badmouthing the Bush family out of turn] is as we have come to expect from a family of heroin addicts, statutory rapists, convicted and unconvicted female-killers, cheaters, bootleggers and dissolute drunks known as ‘Camelot.’ Why would anyone want such people as ‘good friends’?” (Well then! Let it be said here that some of debate’s most unbelievable battles have been drawn around the bodies of the Kennedy boys; the most savagely your author has ever been handled in a debate was the night it came from the conservative podium, “Am I supposed to respect them [JFK and RFK] because they each used Marilyn Monroe as a spittoon?”)

The Centre Daily Times, a State College, Pennsylvania newspaper, took that as the last straw and dropped Coulter’s column from its pages, having previously informed its readers that the column was on probation (as it were) due to the frankness of her views and the manner in which they were conveyed. On The O’Reilly Factor, Times editor Bob Unger went to reasonable lengths to say 1) that his paper is basically a moderate paper in a largely Right-wing town, 2) that Coulter is a hater of Democrats, liberals, environmentalists and “most Muslims,” and that, 3) a majority of mail sent to his paper plainly stated they were okay with the column’s removal because people are “tired of hate.” Safe to say no vote was needed on whether or not people are tired of hate.

In defense of Ann Coulter: she is an asset to a movement (conservatism) that is, generally speaking, much too plaintive and soft spoken for its own good, that refuses to recognize the rest of the world has modernized while it hasn’t, that will not face its opposition (liberalism) in the same manner in which it is continuously treated. Coulter’s tendency is to respond to liberalism as it has responded to conservatism over the years, with open contempt. In terms of tone, she has said nothing here of the Kennedy’s that hasn’t been said of President Bush’s family, by the Left, with the accusations changed to retain relevance.

It also bares mentioning, though it should seem obvious, that Coulter gets as good as she gives; the difference between “Battered Republican Syndrome” and Thor Helsa’s old “Ann of a Thousand Lays” column for salon.com (in which it is suggested Coulter injects herself with her own urine to stay thin) is that Helsa’s piece is considered high comedy by its primary audience, while Coulter’s blasts are considered hate speech. (One cannot help but wonder if this is because Coulter’s work is actually being read by enough people to register an impact. How many bestsellers has Thor Helsa had?)

Now to the other side: The more often someone is dumped, the less likely it becomes the person being dumped is simply misunderstood (cf. Coulter’s previous problems with National Review Online). A certain act can play itself out in a column distributed, say, to Internet-only audiences, but when it comes to newspaper syndication, one should probably exercise a little more decorum. (Your author wouldn’t, for example, refer to Marilyn Monroe’s being used as a spittoon had this column been written for the Wall Street Journal.)

Those who appreciate Coulter (I am one) cannot help but wonder whether or not she consistently stacks the deck against herself because she enjoys the challenge (“I Stand Alone Against the World”) or because she is a keener public relations maven than originally suspected. No matter the overall truth of the Kennedy statement (and there’s nothing but truth in it), Coulter’s thought pattern doesn’t always translate well to those not as vehement in their objections, especially over breakfast.

Anyone who openly defies or opposes Ann Coulter is her enemy; whether or not this is inherently healthy as a personal philosophy can be debated (though one suspects not), even if on a base level people appreciate protectionism of one’s allies and beliefs. Problem is, the more managing editors she alienates, the less likely it is Coulter will be taken seriously, and the damage done then is not only to her reputation, but to conservatism in general, which her fans hope she comes to consider.


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To: DakotaGator
Please take a minute to read my other posts on this thread; I adore Coulter, there were just thoughts for and against I decided to write about.
81 posted on 09/19/2002 6:35:23 PM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: DakotaGator
Amen DakotaGator

By the way, are you a Florida fan?? Too bad if you are but at least we agree on the more important things.

82 posted on 09/19/2002 6:35:39 PM PDT by No Income Tax
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To: DainBramage
X$?¬, he says that what she says about the Kennedy's is truth.
This paper that won't print her will print that Molly person, who writes nothing about hate about Pubbies, and without a sense of humor. But her brand of "hate" seems to be fine with them.
83 posted on 09/19/2002 6:37:33 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: No Income Tax
Very poor comparison, as Coulter is one brittle writer.Her tone never changes, and though it gives her fans all the red meat they need, it also makes her...boring :-)

I don't find her all that clever, humourous, or original.You're welcome to her.
84 posted on 09/19/2002 6:38:37 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: No Income Tax
"Slander" really is a great book. As mentioned previously, you can get autographed copies at AnnCoulter.org ...
85 posted on 09/19/2002 6:38:39 PM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: ladyinred
I hadn't even thought of Molly Ivans. Nice job, and you're right.
86 posted on 09/19/2002 6:39:44 PM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: stlrocket
ditto all your points and Ann has more balls
than O'Reilly.
87 posted on 09/19/2002 6:39:53 PM PDT by cactusSharp
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To: narby
He claims that his paper has gotten thousands of message about their cancelling Coulters column, and the vast majority were in favor of it.

I also question this, especially since he said in his editorial a couple days after the "firing" piece that he got so many e-mails - hundreds - that he couldn't possibly read them all. He followed that up with "90% were in agreement with me" So in the couple weeks since then he got time to read and tabulate around 6,000 messages? They DON'T have the staff to do that. It's a small paper that has trouble keeping staff anyway.

88 posted on 09/19/2002 6:49:14 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow
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To: Kay Ludlow
I wondered about this, as well, but didn't think to address it in the column, for obvious format reasons. But thanks for posting it here, it's god to know.
89 posted on 09/19/2002 6:52:53 PM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: stlrocket
The guy was a wimp who showed the classic traits of many so called Republican Conservative - a Backbone of Jello!

Having read the paper since his arrival, I am confidant he's not a republican. The CDT only endorses republicans if they're obviously going to win anyway, and they constantly write in favor of any program that expands government at any level. Seems like a classic democrat journalist to me...

90 posted on 09/19/2002 6:54:40 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow
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To: BrianS.Wise
Brian, I've read your other posts & fully understand you support Ann.

My comments weren't meant to attack you but to applaud the "in your face" tactics that Ann is using.

I thank you for posting your thoughtful piece that started this fun thread!
91 posted on 09/19/2002 7:01:59 PM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: joesbucks
Red meat? You must be a liberal. All you goofs parrot the same line. Can't think for yourself? We better realize the gravitas involved here. You people make me sick.
92 posted on 09/19/2002 7:03:21 PM PDT by willyone
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To: gcruse
Take a bow, Trent Lott. How I miss Newt.

Which Newt - Gingrich the Representative, who was so well prepared and well spoken, the grand balance between intellect and punch; or, Gingrich the Speaker of the House, who sold a political soul for bowls of pork porridge, fumed at those unwilling to join the sellout ("they don't see the Big Picture"), and then couldn't understand why enough of the sold out ganged up on him and forced his sorry behind out of chair and Congress after his sellout (and not the Clinton impeachment hoopla) translated to lost House seats - not to mention his habit of turning around, bending over, and leading his alleged revolutionaries in bleating Thank you, thir, and may I have another whenever the Clintonista was about to drive another one up his (our) you-know-what?

The road to Damnocratic hell is paved with Republican't good intentions.
93 posted on 09/19/2002 7:03:24 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: No Income Tax
By the way, are you a Florida fan??

LOL! Who could not be a Florida Fan?!

BTW, love your freepname!

94 posted on 09/19/2002 7:04:42 PM PDT by DakotaGator
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To: DakotaGator
Not half as happy as I am!
95 posted on 09/19/2002 7:05:31 PM PDT by BrianS.Wise
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To: BrianS.Wise
When Ann's newspaper column circulation drops to the level of Ted Rall's, she can back off a little.

Till then, You Go Girl!

(I've noticed that Jonah Goldberg, online editor at National Review Online seems to tone it down when he does his newspaper columns. I generally like his writing, but I consider it wimping out.)
96 posted on 09/19/2002 7:05:56 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: BrianS.Wise
Deifying Ann Coulter? Sounds like a plan. We could build a new Parthenon at Ground Zero to worship her, and sacrifice Mohammedans there in her honor. I'm game.
97 posted on 09/19/2002 7:06:55 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: BrianS.Wise
Good article. As far as Ann Coulter is concerned, though, I am not at all worried. If she truly becomes so vitriolic that she finds herself alone in the lunatic fringe, she's smart enough to change her tune. And she's also smart enough not to wait until it gets to that point.

In the meantime, she has the courage to say what she means, and mean what she says. By taking unequivocal stands on issues, and not letting the Marxists back her down, she shows the rest of us that it can be done. I am reminded of our President, who is doing exactly the same thing.

98 posted on 09/19/2002 7:07:30 PM PDT by Imal
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To: sweetliberty
I definitely see that a lot of people who post here therefore ENJOY demonization. So I assume I will not see complaints when the liberals do it to our candidates if we think it is just wonderful when Ann Coulter does the same thing. In other words, there are two standards: if THEY do it they are demonizing...if WE do it we are exercising free speech. We might save space for all the complaints about Tommy D's distortions, anything Hillary or Bill says in the future that is off the wall -- because we are applauding Ann Coulter to do the same exact thing, in the same style...only she's going after OUR enemies.
National Review, the Weekly Standard, etc....those make our case; Coulter gives our foes ammunition.
She speaks their language....So if you have a kid who swears a blue streak at school and comes home it must be correct to talk the same way to them and that way at home...after all...you're just talking their language.
99 posted on 09/19/2002 7:08:16 PM PDT by jraven
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To: ladyinred
This paper that won't print her will print that Molly person

That's been the subject of some discussion on local radio, but Molly doesn't seem to bother the editor. Neither does local columnist Deb McMurtrie - she's written about conservatives wanting to starve children and old people. This week McMurtrie started to try to make amends to the readers - she said when she says conservatives she means the extreme right wing. Unfortunately by the end of her column she says "the pendulum has swung to the extreme right", which is pretty much back to slamming mainstream republicans. I know they've had complaints about her and Molly (they've even published some of the letters of complaint, but I don't see him firing them!

100 posted on 09/19/2002 7:08:57 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow
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