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Florida "Terror Scare" Detainees to Refute Charges (CAIR announcing press conference)
CAIR Press Release (via email) ^ | 14 September 2002 | CAIR

Posted on 09/14/2002 9:21:09 PM PDT by Stultis

In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

- MEDIA ADVISORY -

FLORIDA "TERROR SCARE" DETAINEES TO REFUTE CHARGES Medical students deny threats, running through toll booth, being "uncooperative"

WHAT: On Sunday, September 15, the Florida office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-FL) will hold a news conference at which the three Muslim medical students detained during Friday's "terror scare" in that state will refute charges that they perpetrated a "hoax," ran through a toll booth or were "uncooperative" with authorities.

The men were stopped after a restaurant patron in Georgia said she hear them making "alarming" comments about the 9/11 attacks and about a possible future terrorist attack. They were released without charge after being detained for 17 hours. Since their release, CAIR-FL assisted the men in obtaining legal representation. Their attorneys will also attend the news conference.

"We are very concerned that mere suspicions, possibly based on prejudice and stereotyping, could so damage the lives and livelihood of hard-working young people whose only wish is to defend their reputations and complete their medical education," said CAIR-FL Executive Director Altaf Ali.

Ali added that the rising tide of anti-Muslim rhetoric in our society can trigger discrimination by a bigoted minority. He said that just this weekend, a mosque under construction in Northern Virginia was attacked by vandals.

SEE: "LOCAL MOSQUE VANDALIZED" http://www.wtopnews.com/news/newsdetail.cfm?NewsId=636619

WHERE: CAIR-FL's Office, 12535 Orange Drive, Davie, Florida (Davie is close to Miami.)

WHEN: Sunday, September 15, 1 p.m.

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CONTACT: CAIR-FL, Altaf Ali, 954-298-8214, E-Mail: altafaali@cair-florida.org; Ibrahim Hooper, 202-488-8787 or 202-744-7726, E-MAIL: cair@cair-net.org; Ms. Hodan Hassan, 202-488-8787 or 703-861-7294, E-MAIL: hhassan@cair-net.org

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To: dread78645
Hehehee, Well Miss Cleo, you sure called this one. Hehehee.
161 posted on 09/15/2002 8:38:41 AM PDT by Wingsofgold
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To: Howlin
Something smells here. How could SO many people have been so wrong all day long?

They weren't. I'm assuming the FBI let them run so they could lead them somewhere. Hopefully, this situation will be reversed shortly.

I really fault two groups for this mess: the authorities, because somebody leaked her identity and they should have warned her not to go public; and the media, who don't seem to care how many lives they put in danger as long as they don't have to do any real work.

There was no way this woman's identity should have been given out to the press. These guys are deadly and they would kill her and her family in a heartbeat--to prevent her testimony if they could get to her in time, or for revenge after the fact.

It seems to me that someone among the authorites was incredibly stupid, or deliberately set her up. Giving her name, city of residence, and personal information on TV put her and her family in the crosshairs. I hope the DOJ investigates that leak.

162 posted on 09/15/2002 9:02:43 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: Stultis
looks like the message for the rest of us Americans is to take the Sgt Shultz approach. We know nothing. We heard nothing.If something happens.Hey, its not all fault.After all the musims are a religion of peace so they must be joking about doing something violent.
163 posted on 09/15/2002 9:07:27 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Mo1
Yeah, an about wearin those robes and "traditional muslim" headgear. It's offense as hell. They know it to. Like somebody said yesterday usin an example of a big blonde German making fun of Auschwitz in a synagoue. (overlook spellin, I'm lazy).Well seeing these jokers parade around in them robes, beards down to whereever, them scarfs and hats and sh!t is downright suspicious and offends. That is just the way it is. These "boys" knew that when they drove through the South dressed like, accordin to one of 'em's big mouthed sister, they thought all the South is prejudiced, biased and racist. Burns my a$$ up everytime I think on it. The freakin liberal news Media is just gonna hafta get a grip on the fact that as Swastikas are to a German, the Confederate Flag is to some blacks, so is the muslim way of life and dress to Americans, just as offensive as all hell.
164 posted on 09/15/2002 9:09:16 AM PDT by Wingsofgold
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To: FITZ
They won't.
165 posted on 09/15/2002 9:09:39 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Diogenesis
Ain't that the danged truth. I intend to report everyone of the ba$tards who even squint funny. If they truly want to BE an American, then act it. I've had enough of this PC crap of Arab-American, and any other hyphenated Americans. It's as divisive as all hel!. Intended to divide us, IMO. They are tyin to use our Constitution against us, just like they do to Israel.
166 posted on 09/15/2002 9:18:57 AM PDT by Wingsofgold
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To: SarahW
Exaggerating, maybe a little, but it did seem that she was interviewed everytime they changed anchors on Fox(I know they kept showing it taped all day long).

I feel sorry for Eunice, I believe her, but I wish she would have not given any interviews until the LE did their job....as reported yesterday on Fox that she will be giving no more interviews...wise decision and I bet a legal one.

167 posted on 09/15/2002 9:24:18 AM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: kcvl; Siobhan
Lying to protect oneself is an essential tenet of Islam called "Taqiyah".

Here's a reference on it from http://www.maaref-foundation.com/english/shia_education/shia/12.htm :

One of the most misunderstood aspects of Shi'ism is the practice of dissimulation or taqiyah. With the. wider meaning of taqiyah. "to avoid or shun any kind of danger," we are not concerned here. Rather, our aim is to discuss that kind of taqiyah in which a man hides his religion or certain of his religious practices in situations that would cause definite or probable danger as a result of the actions of those who are opposed to his religion or particular religious practices.

Among followers of the different schools of Islam, Shi'ites are well known for their practice of taqiyah. In case of danger they dissimulate their religion and hide their particular religious and ritual practices from their opponents.

Many here have been asking themselves "How could Muslims possibly believe the obvious falsehoods that are coming out of their mouths". Quick answer: they don't. It is part of Islamic doctrine that, when faced with a situation where telling the truth would work against Islam or fellow Muslims, YOU LIE. You tell whatever story seems most likely to work to your advantage
168 posted on 09/15/2002 9:24:53 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: mystery-ak
Here it comes, just as I and many others here predicted.....lawsuit. Poor Eunice.....we need to support her.

I don't believe she will have any problem raising money for her defence should it become neccesary. I for one will definitely contribute if the need arises. Any lawsuit by those mopes would be a major mistake.
169 posted on 09/15/2002 9:28:12 AM PDT by Kozak
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To: Arkinsaw
My great-grandfather's response to this was not to cry about it. His response was to enforce the exclusive speaking of English and put his son into a uniform of the United States to fight the enemy. The war made a line in the sand and you made your choices. You could not be half a thing and half another.

Bingo. I'm first generation Ukrainian- American. During the cold war you would not find a more loyal group of citizens. One of my parents proudest moments was when I put on the uniform of the Air Force, where I spent 8 years on active duty. If the muslims are REALLY sincere about becoming fully assimilated Americans, they should look to the actions of Italians, Germans, Japanese and eastern European Americans in serving, not suing.
170 posted on 09/15/2002 9:32:36 AM PDT by Kozak
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To: SauronOfMordor; kcvl; Siobhan
More on al taqiyah:

Lying today

Imam Abu Hammid Ghazali says: "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible."

(Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller, amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745) Note that Al-Ghazali is one of the most famous and respected Muslim theologians of all time.

171 posted on 09/15/2002 9:47:30 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Dave S
Thanks for the information. I had not seen that poll yet.

Do you think there is a chance that MORE people will speak up?

172 posted on 09/15/2002 9:50:04 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: SauronOfMordor; kcvl; Siobhan
Many here have been asking themselves "How could Muslims possibly believe the obvious falsehoods that are coming out of their mouths". Quick answer: they don't. It is part of Islamic doctrine that, when faced with a situation where telling the truth would work against Islam or fellow Muslims, YOU LIE. You tell whatever story seems most likely to work to your advantage.

That's exactly what's going on. And we must realize that all these moslems who come on talk shows and tell us things aren't as they seem, are lying to us.

I was reading another interesting quote which I'll post that the only moslems you can believe when they talk about the true nature of islam are the most radical ones, because they aren't the ones lying. All the others are.

So we (the infidels) are being duped every time we believe anything that comes out of their mouths. They are furthering their goals, and doing so by lying, which is considered a good work if it spreads islam.

173 posted on 09/15/2002 9:54:36 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: glorygirl
I agree with everything you said.

I never have understood why some people don't "get it" and others push the envelope. For instance, I don't talk about hijacking in airports, do you?

174 posted on 09/15/2002 9:54:42 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: ET(end tyranny)
WHY hasn't the son come forward? Why hasn't the son been interviewed? One would think that the son would WANT to come forward to vindicate his mother?

As nearly as I can piece together, Eunice Stone did not seek publicity, but her name was leaked to a radio personality, Schmidt, by Georgia cop, I believe. Schmidt interviewed her by phone in the AM, and soon, according to her comments on Fox, her lawn was being trampled by a media frenzy.

She called Fox News, and they (for the value of a scoop), transported her to the studio, for which she thanked Fox on one of the many interviews she did that day.

She also said her son thought it was a hoax, and tried to discourage her (I can imagine my son doing the same thing, probably knowing what the resulting media frenzy might be.)

Remember, this lady is just a normal, everyday citizen who, through doing the very thing Americans have been encouraged to do for the last year, now finds herself the center of Islamic rage.

Would you want to subject your son to the same thing?

I hope she has a damn good lawyer, but whatever the outcome, she's already paid dearly.

175 posted on 09/15/2002 9:56:36 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Stultis
Do you know what networks will carry it live?
176 posted on 09/15/2002 9:59:29 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: SauronOfMordor; kcvl; Siobhan
link to more on Al-taqiyya from The Koran and the Bible

< snip >

"It should be noted that I have read on some Muslim sites that a few more fundamental Muslim sites do not commit dissimulation, are open about the warrior mentality of Islam, and are proud that they do not dissemble or lie. But my understanding is that this is only the most "radical" or orthodox Muslims. It seems that the vast majority of Muslims are actually proud that they do dissemble or lie.

"The problem is, how can you tell which ones are not lying to you if you don't know the Koran and Islam? Basically, you can't believe the few because of the many. It is my opinion that the only Muslims a non-Muslim can believe about anything are the fundamentalist Muslims who openly admit that Islam is a warrior religion and that they are required to destroy all non-Muslims. Even then, we need to be careful."

< snip >

177 posted on 09/15/2002 10:04:53 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: kcvl
The url doesn't work. Any way to verify data? Not that it is untrue, but verification would be nice.
178 posted on 09/15/2002 10:12:08 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: SarahW
Did you hear her account of her observations firsthand?

Yes, I saw her on FNC, and heard her when she first ws on the phone with them. My question remains. Where is the 18 year old son, that could verify her story?

179 posted on 09/15/2002 10:20:10 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: FreepLady
Can't disagree with you! It's time for us as a country and a system to discard our cloak of naivete. We must, if we are to survive.
180 posted on 09/15/2002 10:31:42 AM PDT by bootless
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