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As they say in Kentucky; "Cymru am bith".
News Wales (UK) ^ | 8/26/02 | Unknown

Posted on 08/29/2002 9:51:38 AM PDT by scouse

Did the Welsh discover America?

26/8/2002

A team of historians and researchers announced today that Radio Carbon dating evidence, and the discovery of ancient British style artefacts and inscriptions in the American Midwest, provide the strongest indications yet" that British explorers, under the Prince Madoc ap Meurig, arrived in the country during the 6th Century and set up colonies there.

Research team members have known the location of burial sites of Madoc's close relatives in Wales for some time, it emerged today; but they have decided to break their self-imposed silence in order that their research be fully known and understood. DNA evidence could provide vital new leads, they say.

"We have a mass of remarkable evidence," said British historian Alan Wilson, who has been working with Jim Michael of the Ancient Kentucke Historical Association since 1989. "As experts in ancient British history, we were approached by Jim and visited locations in the Mid West with him," he added.

Many of the grave mounds found in the American mid West, including those at Bat Creek, Tennessee, are ancient British in origin and design, Wilson said. Jim Michael added, "the stone tablet found at Bat Creek in 1889 included an inscription written in Coelbren, an ancient British alphabet known and recorded by historians and bards down the ages."

Wilson said that his research had brought him into contact with very similar alphabet inscriptions in Britain, Europe and the Middle East. "The components of the alphabet derive from the earliest days of the Khumric (Welsh) people," he added, "and were used along their migration routes to Wales in antiquity."

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To: scouse

Mad Doc - like the Dog river in Alabama which used to be called the Maddog river. Supposedly named for Madoc. Mobile bay being where he landed
ap is just Son of like Mac in Irish or Scotts
Owain - Oh Wine
Gwynedd - the tough one Gwin edth - the dd is a ddddhhhh sound
Like Button Gwynett - signer of the declaration of independence another Welshman
More Welshmen signed the declaration than any other extraction. You can keep Columbus Day too, even though he swore he had discovered India and refused to set foot on the mainland.


61 posted on 08/03/2010 9:02:27 PM PDT by ArthMawr (Y Gwir yn erbyn y byd)
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To: crystalk

Their theory is based on an earlier Madoc being the one that legends were about. They are also keen Arthurian researchers.
The Madoc legend was revived by Dr. Jon Dee to support British claims to America and dispute the Spanish claim in the time of Elizabeth I but there is much confusion over the literary references he used to establish this claim.


62 posted on 08/03/2010 9:07:19 PM PDT by ArthMawr (Y Gwir yn erbyn y byd)
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To: Tancred

As Oscar Wilde once said,
America had often been discovered before Columbus, but it had always been hushed up.


63 posted on 08/03/2010 9:07:33 PM PDT by ArthMawr (Y Gwir yn erbyn y byd)
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64 posted on 12/19/2014 9:27:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ _____________________ Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: blam

In fact it was at one time. During the Bronze age they mined the copper of Lake Superior. Specifically the mines of Isle Royal. This has recently been proven by the find of a sunken Phoenician ship laden with copper ingots the shape of hides within the Meditranian basin that have the same copper purity content as the copper of Lake Superior. Pure copper can be traced to it’s origin in this way. There is no doubt but that the copper in that Phoenician ship came from Lake Superior.


65 posted on 12/01/2015 3:29:35 AM PST by Kahòntsi_Takohs
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To: Kahòntsi_Takohs; scouse; SunkenCiv
Alabama fights to reinstate plaque celebrating Welsh ‘Columbus’

According to legend, the Welsh prince arrived in Mobile Bay, Alabama, in 1170, in order to escape a war of succession in his homeland following his father’s death.

66 posted on 12/01/2015 9:53:06 AM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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