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Horowitz: Take off the gloves!!
Oregon Magazine ^ | August 28, 2002 | Peggy Whitcomb

Posted on 08/28/2002 8:18:20 AM PDT by WaterDragon

"If Republicans ever get really serious about politics, they can easily change the world!"

David Horowitz has a high opinion of conservatives as powerful people, saying that "Conservatives are intelligent, knowledgeable, compassonate, non-confrontational, and tolerant of other people's opinions."

But according to Horowitz, the tendency to be non-confrontational, and overly tolerant in the face of vicious attacks from the left, will leave Republicans defeated, if still "nice," on election days..(snip)

For the complete Horowitz interview, click here.


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KEYWORDS: conservatives; fightfightfight; horowitz; interview; progressives
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1 posted on 08/28/2002 8:18:20 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
The gloves are off here. Count me in!
2 posted on 08/28/2002 8:20:53 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
I knew you would be in, TLBSHOW!
3 posted on 08/28/2002 8:23:22 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
I have been saying this for years
4 posted on 08/28/2002 8:24:18 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: WaterDragon
From American Conservatism: an Argument with the Racial Right , I found the following to be stellar:

Ironically, Taylor and the Euro-racialists have fallen into a trap set by the “multicultural” left. The left’s multicultural offensive is an attack on America’s national culture, not on its racial or ethnic composition. “Inclusion” and “diversity” are not the real agendas of the left — America has always honored both principles, however imperfect their implementation may have been. The idea of the melting pot is an American idea. The left, however, has never been interested in a “melting pot” that would assimilate diverse ethnicities into an American culture.

The left is hostile to the idea of assimilation. Its agenda is the deconstruction of America’s national identity and culture, of the American narrative of inclusion and freedom. Multiculturalism is not about the assimilation of minorities into the crucible of American freedom, their liberation from American oppression. By accepting the left’s view of itself as a movement for diversity and inclusion, and responding with a call for Euro-centricity and exclusion, the Euro-racialists simply play into the hands of the left and help them to conceal their anti-American agendas.

Under the cloak of ethnic inclusion, the left has injected an anti-American curriculum into the American educational system, in an attempt to alienate America’s youth from its heritage. Under the smokescreen of “diversity,” it has rewritten America’s laws and subverted its Constitution. It has launched a campaign to institutionalize group rights and racial privileges in place of individual rights and laws that are race neutral.

This is a perfectly diabolical scheme: in the name of diversity and inclusion the left is systematically destroying the framework of individualism and the rule of neutrality that make diversity and inclusion possible. But instead of fighting this sinister attack on the very foundations of the American system, Jared Taylor and the Euro-racialists are eager to validate it. They have even embraced the destructive narrative devised by the left whose purpose is to kill the American dream. Taylor’s construction of American history in his reply to my commentary directly parallels the maliciously distorted version of the nation’s history in works of such anti-American fanatics as Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn.

5 posted on 08/28/2002 8:25:02 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: TLBSHOW
Bump, For DH, I hope Hastert, DeLay and others commit David to memory.
6 posted on 08/28/2002 8:25:16 AM PDT by Helms
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To: WaterDragon
But according to Horowitz, the tendency to be non-confrontational, and overly tolerant in the face of vicious attacks from the left, will leave Republicans defeated, if still "nice," on election days..

But isn't attacking your opponent girly girl? This is what I've been told, although I considered it hardball. The democrats play to win, conservatives need to do the same.

7 posted on 08/28/2002 8:25:27 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Wonderful excerpt; thanks for posting the link!

CD

8 posted on 08/28/2002 8:30:25 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
thread here
9 posted on 08/28/2002 8:33:27 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: WaterDragon
"...."No, it isn't dead! The left is the strongest, most forceful political movement in America today!" It continues to attract people, he says, because "... they want to be taken care of. It's just human nature to want that..."

The other reason it continues to attract people, is because the young are spoonfed the philosophy in public schools, colleges, and elite universities. It attracts the privileged, the rich and famous, and celebritity goobers, because they long to feel good about themselves. They espouse the rhetoric of the left, because it massages their egos, makes them feel superior, and excuses all their hedonistic excesses. The godless still want to viewed as good, worthy, charitable. It's PR, baby, and wanting to fit in with others just like them. They justify each other's shortcomings.

10 posted on 08/28/2002 8:34:45 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Constitution Day
Nothing on earth is more impressive to me than someone who is MAN enough to say: "The system I used to believe in was a fraud, so I left it."

So few, few people have the personal integrity to admit the things they passionately believed in, in their youth, were dead wrong.

This interview is impressive to me, I wish the rest of the republican'ts had Horowitz' strength of character, and would stand up and FIGHT for what they believe is right.

11 posted on 08/28/2002 8:37:23 AM PDT by berned
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Thanks!
12 posted on 08/28/2002 8:39:34 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day; Grampa Dave; blackie; dixiechick2000; OldFriend; DLfromthedesert; YaYa123; ...
You're welcome.

YaYa123....agreed!
13 posted on 08/28/2002 8:40:33 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: WaterDragon
But "take the gloves off", does not, and should not move President Bush to get down and dirty with the lying dogs of the left. President Bush should continue to try and change the tone in Washington, it's proven by polls that voters are sick of it. But Horowitz is right, that every false allegation, every spinning lie, and every personal attack by the left should be answered immediately, in the same news cycle. Let no lie go unrefuted. But it must be done by Republican talking heads, think tanks, editorials, and the other voices now available to us. The internet, talk radio, conservative journals and newspapers.

The left doesn't have the free media ride it once did. Their lies are not simply accepted as truth. We are winning, and we are doing it without President Bush indulging in the gutter politics. Oh, I admit, I would get tremendous satisfaction seeing this administration publicly expose all of the Clintons' excesses, crimes, sins, shortcomings, corruptions, and failures..but really, my instant gratification is far less important than wise governance.

14 posted on 08/28/2002 8:44:02 AM PDT by YaYa123
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Horowitz is showing us (conservatives) how to fight. His is practically a lone voice. He showed us how to get media coverage, with his presenting his points in the college papers, (creating quite a uproar), it got it out there and public; even the colleges he appeared at as speaker with hecklers and protesters were a win for him and his tactics.

What we need is 50 people doing what he does, then 100 and so on....

15 posted on 08/28/2002 9:09:27 AM PDT by geologist
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To: YaYa123
The president is handling it just right, I agree. And I don't even think "gutter politics" is needed. Getting in there with the simple truth, not letting the left get away with their lying, will be devastating!

16 posted on 08/28/2002 9:13:33 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: TLBSHOW
Great article, the book review is even better!!!!!!
17 posted on 08/28/2002 9:19:16 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: YaYa123
You're right, Bush probably doesn't need to stoop to the democrats' level of personal attacks, but I sorta miss the days when Reagan would make humorous digs at Tip O'Neill and the democratic party, the term "demogogues" was frequently used to describe them.

Reagan while he was willing to compromise to get as much of his agenda through, knew who his opponents were and rarely missed an opportunity to make that fact known. To my knowledge it didn't hurt him politically, in fact I've never seen a politican more imitated by the democrats than Reagan. That's because not only was he admired by the general population but respected by friends and foe alike.

Republicans/conservatives these days have become too comfortable in their position of power, they need to remember they do have political enemies scheming to run them out. The democrats are terrible at running government, but they're VERY good at politics.

18 posted on 08/28/2002 9:23:10 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: CPT Clay
thanks, CPT Clay
19 posted on 08/28/2002 9:26:53 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: geologist
What we need is 50 people doing what he does, then 100 and so on....

The flip side is that when, say, Ann Coulter goes after Dems, you have some here who castigate her for being "over the top" with some of her rhetoric. We need more "over the top".

20 posted on 08/28/2002 9:32:43 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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