Bring back DDT: Joseph Farah finds truth suppressed to reduce the world's population

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, August 23, 2002 | Joseph Farah

[JohnHuang2]

Friday, August 23, 2002

Quote of the Day by MadIvan

[lizma]

Not useing DDT is absolute idiocicy.

Ranks with Merle Streep and the pesticide scare.

Emotion over thought process.

[backhoe]

Son offa gun! I've been beating this dead horse for years!

West Nile Virus- Bring Back DDT?

Scams, Scalawags, and an all-too-gullible Public...famous frauds sold to America

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

In fact, since 1999, 625 million people have contracted the disease worldwide and more than 4 million of them have died.

Sean Hannity was puzzled yesterday afternoon. A caller told him that they now have a West Nile Virus vaccine for horses and other animals, but not for people. I found that puzzling too.

[Cagey]

DDT not only nearly wiped out this nation's symbol, but it also put a huge dent in the Hawk population by causing thinning of egg shells which made many bird embryos die. It's no surprise that both these species are now thriving in America since DDT is no longer used.

And, this guy suggests draining wetlands? Ask Ducks Unlimited what disaster that would cause. Ducks Unlimited is no off the wall bunch of "greenies". Any serious duck hunter is probably a member of DU. Draining wetlands would also do severe damage to the fish populations because the wetlands are where many fry grow to adult with is's rich source of food and cover.

And oh, I'm sure that guy fell into a vat of DDT. I think the author did too.

[DallasMike]

It's no surprise that both these species are now thriving in America since DDT is no longer used.

I'm very sympathetic to this article, but I have to admit that I never once saw a hawk or an eagle while growing up. I looked for them, too -- I'm an Eagle Scout. Now I see them two or three times a week right here in the suburbs of Dallas. If we could only teach them to eat grackles....

[Cagey]

We're probably about the same age because I remember the same thing. Now I see Hawks all the time and I enjoy that. I've also seen a handful of eagles here in New Jersey which not many years ago was unheard of.

The greenies are so often wrong and exaggerate almost everything. On a few things they are right, and DDT is one of them.

[Wonder Warthog]

"And, this guy suggests draining wetlands? Ask Ducks Unlimited what disaster that would cause. Ducks Unlimited is no off the wall bunch of "greenies". Any serious duck hunter is probably a member of DU. Draining wetlands would also do severe damage to the fish populations because the wetlands are where many fry grow to adult with is's rich source of food and cover."

So you prefer ducks to people?? You prefer to let PEOPLE DIE so some jerk jock can get his jollies banging away at innocent birds??

Here's a clue -- there were plenty of ducks before Bush the First's "wetlands" policy started. The "wetlands" thing has zip to do with ducks, and everything to do with government taking yet more control of private property. Read up on the things that define a "wetland"--it is NOT a place where there is standing water year-round--just a damp spot in the dirt where specific PLANTS happen to grow. What good is THAT to a duck??

[SteamshipTime]

This has been called into question by one scientist who believes industrial heavy metal emissions were the actual culprit. I'll track down the link.

[Budge]

I know you don't believe me. You've been conditioned to think of DDT as an abhorrent toxic agent that caused cancer and nearly wiped out the bald eagle.

I love the comment, "condition to think." It was called "brainwashing" when I was a pup. IOW, telling a lie long and loud enough that people accept the lie as the "truth."

But the EPA hearing examiner was overruled by EPA administrator William Ruckelshaus – a lawyer and politician, not a scientist. He reportedly did not attend a single hour of the seven months of hearings, nor did he read any of the transcripts, according to aides.

Ruling by fiat.

The latest scientific study on DDT, published in 1985, found no correlation between DDT and cancer. A 1972 study actually found it reduced tumors in animals.

Three different studies, all comming to the same conclusion, yet people prefer to believe propaganda over truth.

God, help us!

[SteamshipTime]

Bingo.

Notice all those small ponds beside the highway filled with 10" of stormwater and runoff? Wetlands, that's why the landowners aren't allowed to drain them.

[THE Aardvark]

Don't tell the EPA about my parent's back yard. It goes underwater every winter when we get long periods of rain. According to federal regulations, that would be a wetland, and they would be very upset with all of the leaves and other stuff we have put back there over the years!

[Cagey]

So you prefer ducks to people??

Yea, that's precisely what I implied. That's such a standard no answer to the problem.

If you don't think tidal or freshwater wetlands are important to all of us, then pave them over where you live. I don't hunt ducks, but I do fish and realize that wetlands are important. I prefer "most" people to ducks, fish, gulls, and birds of prey. And if you really believe that true wetlands are just a place where "specific plants" happen to grow, you need new specs and a hearing aid. And you live on the Puget sound? Why?

[Doctor Stochastic]

The truth is that population-control advocates decided in the 1960s that overpopulation must be prevented. The best way, they determined, was to let children in poor nations die of malaria by the millions.

Citatation? Where did someone recommend letting children die of malaria? Mr Farah really ought to give sources for statements like this.

[Cagey]

Mr. Farah seems to be more fitted at writing horror films than science. I like his .."He has related stories to me about falling into a vat of DDT and emerging unscathed with no after-effects." Oh, the humanity!! Hahahaha

[Intimidator]

I'm on your side man and I'm no greeny either. I'm no duck hunter but I am a deer hunter and I understand the balance of nature and the need for wetlands. This west nile virus is getting blown way out of proportion. Only a few people die from this disease anyway. There are far more people die from flu every year than west nile in this country. I don't see the media making a big deal about influenza.

[Doctor Stochastic]

I don't see the media making a big deal about influenza.

You're just not paying attention. Flu gets lots of media attention. Yearly vaccination programs are also covered.

[antisocial]

Go to junkscience.com and get the facts about DDT from
a scientific perspective, instead of from an emotional based environmentalist wacko, woe-is-me, perspective.
Also, a wetlands, to an enviro-wacko can be anything they want it to be, not what a rational person would define as wetlands.

[Wonder Warthog]

"And if you really believe that true wetlands are just a place where "specific plants" happen to grow, you need new specs and a hearing aid. And you live on the Puget sound? Why?"

It ain't what "I" believe--its what the damned EPA regulations say. IOW "its the law". Go learn something about what the damned green/red bureaucrats are doing before opening your pie-hole.

Nobody is talking about draining tidal or freshwater wetlands that actually are associated with year-round bodies of water--they are talking about the little one-or-two acre potholes that are good only for breeding mosquitoes and have never seen a duck in their entire existence (too small). TRUE wetlands support FISH and other life-forms that EAT the mosquito larvae, and are associated with year-round bodies of water.

BTW--I'm from South Louisiana originally. I grew up between the Mississippi and Atchafalya Rivers, and right next door the the Atchafalya Floodway, with a bayou across the road from the front yard, so I have seen more wetlands, both freshwater and tidal, than you have ever thought about.

[Cagey]

Nobody is talking about draining tidal or freshwater wetlands that actually are associated with year-round bodies of water-

That is precisely what you missed in my criticism of the author of this article. He is saying " credit goes to the draining of vast wetland areas."

You jumped on my case when I criticized the author of the article on his proposal to bring back DDT and drain "vast" wetland areas. Those very areas you grew up around.

...so I have seen more wetlands, both freshwater and tidal, than you have ever thought about.

That wouldn't be a good bet on your part.

I think you and I actually agree more than you realized.