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German Sub Sank the Titanic!
National Examiner (tabloid) | Aug. 27, 2002 | Dr. Franklin Ruehl, PhD.

Posted on 08/21/2002 10:12:24 PM PDT by vikingchick

Shocking New Theory!

The Titanic was sunk by a German submarine, not an iceberg, stunning new evidence reveals.

"The one thing people think they know about the Titanic is that she struck an iceberg," says David Roberts, an historian with the Merseyside Maritime Museum in England.

"However, based on survivor testimony, we can't necessarily make that assumption. In fact, when we look at the evidence, the only thing we can take for granted is that the Titanic skimmed past the iceberg, barely making contact with it.

"Subprofiler images of the Titanic's hull have now proven that the damage she sustained wasn't as bad as we first thought. So something else must have been responsible for her loss that night.

"By 1912, the German navy had perfected the U-boat design. At the time of the Titanic's disaster, the political turmoil that would lead to World War I was already brewing. And the Germans had sent U-boats out on patrol in the North Atlantic."

The luxury liner sailed out of Southampton, England on Wednesday, April 10, 1912. Just four days later, she bagan her death plunge to the bottom of the icy North Atlantic off the coast of Newfoundland, Canada, taking more than 1,500 passengers and crew to a watery grave and leaving only about 700 survivors.

"When questioned by a U.S. Senate inquiry panel, several Titanic crew members and passengers testified that they heard explosions deep in the bowels of the ship AFTER it had hit the iceberg," says noted Titanic historian Daniel Cherry.

"One officer said he heard four explosions, like the sounds of a big gun in the distance."

Roberts also said some survivors in lifeboats spotted a mysterious craft in the area, possibly a submarine that had surfaced.

"Many of the survivors huddled in lifeboats that night reported seeing a strange light from a nearby ship, almost like a beam from a searchlight," he explains. "They were encouraged because they hoped the other ship would come to their aid, but it never did.

"The most widely accepted theory is that the ship was the Californian. But to his dying day, her captain Stanley Lord insisted that there was another ship between his and the Titanic.

"The Californian was surrounded by a huge ice field and Lord had ordered that she stay put until daylight. During the night, the sailors on watch, including 3rd Officer Charles Groves, said they saw an unidentified vessel five to six miles from their location. The vessel was there until about 2 a.m., when she moved away from the Californian.

"She was the mystery ship that failed to go to the Titanic's aid. And the reason she didn't was that she had either just collided with the Titanic or used her torpodoes to sink her."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Miscellaneous; US: New Jersey; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: davidroberts; germans; germany; godsgravesglyphs; merde; merseyside; southampton; titanic; uboat; uboats; unitedkingdom
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To: vikingchick
HA!! Found the bug. My AIX compiler's optimization was corrupting a variable length array.

Free to Freep! Free to Freep! Thank G-d, Allmighty, I'm Free to Freep.

(at least until the customer release is done. Now, what is this crap about torpedos...)

41 posted on 08/21/2002 11:57:19 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Jimer
To be a little bit more precise ...

In April 1912, when the Titanic sank, the best of the pre-WWI German U-boats were the U-13 type. They had a maximum operating range of about 4,000 miles. Although the first three U-13 type boats had been launched, the first two, U-14 and U-13, were not commissioned until April 24th and 25th, 1913 (respectively). Since their commissioning ceremonies were well attended, they could not have deployed to the north Atlanctic and returned in time.

That means that the U-9 type boats (U-9 through U-12) would have been the best available. The problem is, these small boats (170 feet in length and 23 feet high when surfaced) only had a 3,300 mile maximum operating radius.

The distance from Germany to Newfoundland, via the English Channel is about 3,000 miles. This means, unless the U-boat was on a one-way mission, or was otherwise logistically supported, no German U-boats of that vintage could have possibly carried out the mission. Furthermore, because of the U-boats low top surface speed (8 knots), and even lower submerged speed (1-2 knots), it would have nearly impossible for the submarine to know where the very fast Titanic would have been at any time in its voyage.

Since the German report no U-boats lost at that time, the one way mission is not plausible. I suppose the author of the article could imagine a secret German Arctic submarine base, or claim they had developed at sea refueling from a German tanker assigned to accompany the mission. These are just as plausible as the orignal post.

42 posted on 08/22/2002 12:03:09 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: vikingchick
Shocking New Theory spin!
43 posted on 08/22/2002 12:09:11 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: gcruse
Great picture. Thanks.
44 posted on 08/22/2002 12:19:06 AM PDT by BUSHdude2000
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Ah, c'mon AP. You know it seems at least remotely possible that the Germans did it; out of jealousy if not just sheer SPITE. :)
45 posted on 08/22/2002 12:21:39 AM PDT by vikingchick
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To: capitan_refugio
... U-14 and U-13, were not commissioned until April 24th and 25th, 1913 (respectively).

I think you meant 1912 instead of 1913, but, yes, that would be after the sinking. Maybe the subs were refuled at sea, as you mentioned, if that was done in those days.

46 posted on 08/22/2002 12:25:36 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Jimer
You are correct, "1913" was a typo on my part. I meant 1912.
47 posted on 08/22/2002 12:31:42 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Now, what is this crap about torpedos...)

OK, I'll catch you up. The Germans probably scuttled the Titanic and got away with it for all these years. Why don't they just 'fess up and stop the charade? ;)

48 posted on 08/22/2002 12:36:33 AM PDT by vikingchick
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To: Jimer
About the only factual statement concerning pre-WWI U-boats was that they did deploy to the North Atlantic in 1912. The only problem is, there is no record they deployed to the north-WEST Atlantic. The North Sea is, afterall, part of the north Atlantic; as is the English Channel; as is the Norwegian Sea; as is the Faroes Gap; et cetera. The German U-boats of the era, as were almost all submarines built then, basically for coastal defense. This would change in a few short years. But in 1912, the idea of an ocean-going submarine was only found in Jules Verne novels.
49 posted on 08/22/2002 12:38:05 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: AriOxman
"Subprofiler images of the Titanic's hull have now proven that the damage she sustained wasn't as bad as we first thought. So something else must have been responsible for her loss that night.

Sorry, torpedoes blow big holes in ships, the lack of damage is indicative of sprung plates leaking, exactly the kind of damage that collisions do and explosives don't do. The evidence they cite disproves their own theory.

50 posted on 08/22/2002 12:52:52 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: capitan_refugio
But in 1912, the idea of an ocean-going submarine was only found in Jules Verne novels.

I think so, as well. But it's fun to join a new conspiracy theory for a little while.


51 posted on 08/22/2002 12:55:34 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Bobby777
The German sub included a Sears mini-refrigerator

Hilarious!

52 posted on 08/22/2002 1:07:26 AM PDT by tictoc
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To: SAJ
I just wanted an excuse to post spacemoose on FR.
53 posted on 08/22/2002 5:54:32 AM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: vikingchick; Vic3O3
Bump for a fun read...

Don't these people have anything better to do with their time.

Semper Fi
54 posted on 08/22/2002 6:17:47 AM PDT by dd5339
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To: vikingchick
Haven't read thru all the responses so someone may have already covered this point ... German U-boats didn't have the range necessary in 1912 to have sunk the Titanic where she went down ... nothing more has to be said about this bogus nonsense story.
55 posted on 08/22/2002 6:24:38 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: vikingchick
Thanks for sharing....

Cheers, CC :-p

56 posted on 08/22/2002 7:11:26 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: vikingchick
Notify the TWA 800 crowd -- they'll assume this is true and start ranting immediately.
57 posted on 08/22/2002 7:16:02 AM PDT by paulklenk
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To: vikingchick
Nonsense. I distinctly remember seeing Leonardo and Kate skipping over the chunks of iceberg laying on the deck.
58 posted on 08/22/2002 7:17:21 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Jimer
"I think so, as well. But it's fun to join a new conspiracy theory for a little while.

It is fun. It's down right hilarious when some people start to believe it. I loved it when the two old guys finally admitted making the crop circles. That was great.

59 posted on 08/22/2002 7:18:38 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: vikingchick
I heard something about this as well, except I read that the Titanic was actually hit by a 688 boat, which launched a Tomahawk from 450 miles out. I believe it was the USS Dallas that lauched the missile. The Dallas at the time was chasing a new type Russian sub. The light the captian of the Californian saw was a Coast Guard HH-60 dropping of rescue swimmers to help the survivors.

The Trilateral Commission and the Illuminati made sure the survivors never told the real story.

60 posted on 08/22/2002 7:31:57 AM PDT by Duke809
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