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Dell eyes "white box" market
CNET News ^ | August 20, 2002 | John G. Spooner

Posted on 08/20/2002 10:28:56 AM PDT by HAL9000

Dell Computer is seeking alliances with mom-and-pop shops to further its growth in the PC market.

Dell will begin offering on Friday an unbranded, low-priced desktop PC to distributors that cater to small businesses--typically companies with fewer than 100 employees, the computer maker confirmed Tuesday.

The Round Rock, Texas-based company is embarking on the new plan as a way to enter the "white box" market, which it estimates to be worth $3 billion annually. White-box PC sales have grown quietly over the last five years to represent roughly 30 percent of the market, according to a recent report from market researcher IDC. These PCs are assembled or purchased and resold by small outfits that range in size from single-owner or family-owned shops to larger, regional PC sellers.

By offering the PCs to distributors, Dell essentially joins the party, allowing the companies to sell and service Dell's $499 unbranded computer as they would if they had made it themselves. Meanwhile, Dell can offer the dealers discounts, favorable leasing terms and other sales incentives, representatives said.

The new desktop, dubbed White Box D510, will offer an Intel Celeron processor and a one-year warranty. Buyers will be able to configure it to their desired specifications, increasing memory allotments, for example.

Even though any given white-box maker is tiny compared with the heft of Dell's 30,000-plus employees, the collective market represents an untapped portion of worldwide PC shipments. As Dell tries to gain market share worldwide, in many respects, white-box makers are one of the company's biggest competitors in the consolidated PC industry.

White-box makers are known for offering low prices, but they have also expanded in the last few years to provide technical support, network installation and other services needed by small and medium-sized businesses--all serving to make them formidable competitors in the market. These services, as well as dealers' close proximity to their customers, help generate sales.

To reflect previously uncounted white-box units, IDC increased by 8 million units its estimate for the size of the entire 2001 worldwide PC market. As a result, it also lowered the relative market share positions of the biggest vendors, such as Dell.

Dell is going after buyers at small businesses, but it views the dealer as its true customer. The company estimates that about 60 percent of dealers in the white-box realm buy their PCs as opposed to building them. Dell asserts that it can supply these dealers with a better-quality machine at a similar or better price than others, without cutting into its own profitability, a company representative said.

Dell would make about the same percentage of profit on the new small-business PC as it does on one of its regular desktop computers.

Part of the key to retaining profitability is to avoid building PCs for inventory. Dell will not build any of these small-business machines ahead of time. Instead, its dealers must order each PC needed for their customers. Deliveries from Dell usually take about three to five business days.

Though Dell expects that it will be able to expand its reach with the new desktop, it is making the move with some initial caution.

"We're going to wait and see how this goes. The only plan at this point in time is to offer the desktop product," said Amy King, a Dell spokeswoman. "We will evaluate the market and see what demand is like and take it from there."

The move isn't really a major departure for Dell, which has experience working with dealers. Dell sold PCs through dealers, including retail outlets, in the early 1990s before making a total switch to selling directly to customers.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Technical
KEYWORDS: dell; intel; linux; microsoft; whitebox
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Dude - you're gettin' a Naked White Box?
1 posted on 08/20/2002 10:28:56 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
It's hard for me to believe that "white box" computers are cheaper than mass-produced pcs. The main reason for avoiding dellcompaqhpgateway computers is to have something made to spec, rather than the vanilla stuff they offer.
2 posted on 08/20/2002 10:41:47 AM PDT by js1138
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To: HAL9000
Shhhhhhh! The black boxes will be asking for reparations!
3 posted on 08/20/2002 11:06:38 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom
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To: Mygirlsmom
Poor taste.
4 posted on 08/20/2002 11:10:03 AM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Yep, you're right. We must never offend anyone.
5 posted on 08/20/2002 11:13:37 AM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: Mygirlsmom
LOL! Thanks for the laugh.
6 posted on 08/20/2002 11:22:29 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: ChuckHam
Bad inference.
7 posted on 08/20/2002 11:23:12 AM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Mygirlsmom
that was a dirty crack
8 posted on 08/20/2002 11:32:15 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: Mygirlsmom
That was rude, crude and socially unaceptable!

I love it!!

9 posted on 08/20/2002 11:44:38 AM PDT by Nitro
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To: js1138
The main reason for avoiding dellcompaqhpgateway computers is to have something made to spec, rather than the vanilla stuff they offer.

On a related note, I feel it is my duty to inform all interested that I bought a Gateway computer about 7-8 months ago.

Within about 6.5 months, the modem died, the hard drive crashed and the video driver was bad. I took it into the Gateway service center to have them replace the hard drive and fix the video driver (if that is indeed the actual problem).

One month later, the computer was returned to me with a new hard drive but nothing was done about the video driver. They didn't even examine the problem, according to their own work order.

If this post keeps even one other person from giving money to Gateway, it was worth it.

10 posted on 08/20/2002 11:58:33 AM PDT by gdani
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To: HAL9000
Always buy Dell computers:

Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient
DELL FAMILY INTERESTS
AUSTIN, TX 78746
  12/31/1999 $7,500 NRCC/Non-Federal Account 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
  9/29/2000 $500 Majority Leader's Fund 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
  11/7/2000 $1,000 Grams, Rod 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
  11/6/2000 $1,000 Ashcroft, John 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
  12/21/1999 $7,500 NRSC/Non-Federal 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER 3/20/2000 $1,000 Abraham, Spencer 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER 9/20/2000 $1,000 Frist, Bill 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER 11/7/2000 $500 Brady, Kevin 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORP 11/6/2000 $500 Oxley, Michael G 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORP 8/3/2000 $500 Tauzin, W J "Billy" 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORPORATION 5/15/2000 $500 Sessions, Pete 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER/CHAIRMAN & CEO 11/6/2000 $1,000 Smith, Lamar 
DELL, MICHAEL
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTERS 11/6/2000 $500 Dunn, Jennifer 
DELL, MICHAEL MR
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORPORATION/CHAIRMAN 12/14/2001 $5,000 Dell Computer 
DELL, MICHAEL MRS
AUSTIN, TX 78746
  9/29/2000 $500 Majority Leader's Fund 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER 6/12/2000 $1,000 Republican Majority Fund 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER 11/6/2000 $500 Roth, William V Jr 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORP 10/18/2000 $1,000 Santorum, Rick 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORP 11/7/2000 $1,000 Bryant, Ed 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORP 10/24/2000 $1,000 American Renewal PAC 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORP 10/20/2000 $500 Granger, Kay 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORPORATION 7/23/2001 $10,000 National Republican Senatorial Cmte 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORPORATION 9/21/2000 $200,000 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORPORATION 7/27/2000 $50,000 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORPORATION 11/8/2000 $1,000 New Republican Majority Fund 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORPORATION 10/20/2000 $1,000 Hutchison, Kay Bailey 
DELL, MICHAEL S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORPORATION 3/31/1999 $1,000 Bush, George W 
DELL, MICHAEL S MR
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORP. 12/31/2001 $5,000 NRCC/Contributions Non-Federal #2 
DELL, MICHAEL S MR
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORP. 12/31/2001 $20,000 NRCC/Contributions Non-Federal #2 
DELL, MICHAEL S MR
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORPORATION/CHAIRMAN 4/11/2002 $5,000 Dell Computer 
DELL, MICHAEL S MR
AUSTIN, TX 78746
DELL COMPUTER CORPORATION/CHIEF EXE 5/31/2000 $1,000 Bush, George W 
DELL, SUSAN
AUSTIN, TX 78746
SUSAN DELL INC 9/21/2000 $50,000 RNC/Repub National State Elections Cmte 
DELL, SUSAN L MRS
AUSTIN, TX 78746
SUSAN DELL INC./CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFF 5/31/2000 $1,000 Bush, George W 
DELL, SUSAN S
AUSTIN, TX 78746
SUSAN DELL INC 3/31/1999 $1,000 Bush, George W 

11 posted on 08/20/2002 12:06:18 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: gdani
Buy Dell -- he gives mucho coin to the GOP.
12 posted on 08/20/2002 12:07:44 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Buy Dell -- he gives mucho coin to the GOP.

However, I read a while back about Dell not selling a computer to a gun dealer, and not contacting him about their decision, either.

13 posted on 08/20/2002 12:19:37 PM PDT by serinde
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Sorry until they stop puting that f$%#ing "utility partition" on the harddrives I'll never buy a Dell. In the history of stupid computer architecture putting the BIOS (or something doing all the same stuff as the BIOS normally would on a well designed computer) on the harddrive (ala Compaq) is the king of the hill.
14 posted on 08/20/2002 12:25:37 PM PDT by discostu
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To: gdani
I don't think reliability can be associated with any brand, but perhaps service can. I have bought three IBM 60 gig drives for myself and family members. When one of them came up with enough bad spots to require low-level formatting, I looked at the on-line reviews. I was horrified to find they had a miserable reputation.

I don't know anyone who does anything about service except follow the service manual. If you don't know someone who reads all the on-line chatter about drivers, you're out of luck.

15 posted on 08/20/2002 12:32:21 PM PDT by js1138
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To: serinde
However, I read a while back about Dell not selling a computer to a gun dealer, and not contacting him about their decision, either.

Michael Dell apologized to the gun dealer personally and took care of it. It's a non-issue.
16 posted on 08/20/2002 12:41:50 PM PDT by Bush2000
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To: js1138
I don't think reliability can be associated with any brand, but perhaps service can.

To be fair, a co-worker has a Dell that is less than a year old. His hard drive just crashed but Dell sent a rep within 48 hours to replace it.

As I pointed out earlier, that's a big difference from Gateway which requires you to take the computer to a service center where they do who-knows-what. (Granted, we're talking about the service center in Manhattan but methinks a high-volume store should *gasp* hire more employees to handle the workload).

Anyway, one of the great things about the Internet is what a boon it is to consumers seeking out info about the reliability of different products.

17 posted on 08/20/2002 12:42:40 PM PDT by gdani
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To: discostu
I'm not aware of any computer that cannot be reformatted and have the OS installed from scratch. But there are surprises. The hard drive on my sister's ABS computer developed bad spots that prevented it from booting and defied attempts at system recovery. I was able to reinstall windows, copy her documents to CDs -- but I couldn't get the drive to be reliable without a low-level format.

Before anyone tries this, be sure to get the repair utility supplied by the drive manufactuter

This fixed the drive, but erased all the secret stuff that ABS had put on the machine. Now the recovery disk won't run because it is expecting a recovery partition on the drive.

The solution was a clean windows install, followed by an update of all the drivers. Very time consuming, but now the machine has a clean install of everything.

18 posted on 08/20/2002 12:58:16 PM PDT by js1138
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To: HAL9000
Boy! Just think if they could make a PC that doesn't crash, freeze and die every day! That would be a triumph for Dell, but it won't happen. How to avoid this catastrofe? Easy, it's spelled iMAC. Flames anyone?
19 posted on 08/20/2002 1:04:12 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: js1138
A format only formats one partition on the physical drive (the drive letter, which does not have to have a 1 to 1 relationship with phsycial drives). If you scope out your drive (assuming you have a Dell or Compaq) in something that looks at the partitions (Win2K drive manager, Partition Magic, some equivalent) you'll find there's a "hidden" partition. If you whack that the machine is pretty well toast. You can reconstruct them, but it's not easy (hardest part is finding the stuff you're supposed to use to reconstruct).

My big problem with this is that it's just a bad combination of unreliability and absolute necessity. Those utilities do most of the same functionality as the BIOS chip does in useful architecture (well, it stores the data the BIOS uses). Without that info/ software the computer literally can't talk to itself. Putting the most important information on the computer in the 2nd least reliable part (the only thing that breaks more often than harddrives is modems, and if we could outlaw lightning modems would become much more reliable) is just a stupid combo. Keep all this stuff on a chip on the motherboard. Most of the things that will kill the BIOS chip on the motherboard will have already killed just about everything else anyway.
20 posted on 08/20/2002 1:15:15 PM PDT by discostu
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