Posted on 08/12/2002 6:29:43 AM PDT by SJackson
[FBIS (A US government agency) Report] Sanaa Republic of Yemen Television in Arabic, official television station of the Republic of Yemen, on 9 August 2002 at 0917 GMT carries a 35-minute live sermon from the Grand Mosque in Sanaa. Shaykh Akram Abd-al-Razzaq al-Ruqayhi delivers the sermon.... Concluding, the imam prays to God: "O God, support those supporting Islam, disappoint those disappointing Muslims, and give wisdom to Muhammad's nation. O God, give victory to our mujahidin brothers in Palestine and elsewhere. O God, strengthen them and give them courage." He goes on: "O God, destroy the Jews and their supporters. O God, destroy the Christians and their supporters and followers, shake the ground under them, instill fear in their hearts, and freeze the blood in their veins. O God, destroy them for they are within your power."
"O God, destroy the tyrant Jews" - Saudi sermon broadcast on official TV 9 August 2002
FBIS (A US government agency) Report] Riyadh Kingdom of Saudi Arabia TV1 in Arabic, official television station of the Saudi Government, on 9 August 2002 at 0935 GMT carries an 18-minute live sermon from the holy mosque in Mecca. Shaykh Usamah Abdallah Khayyat delivers the sermon ... Concluding, the imam prays to God: "O God, strengthen Islam and Muslims, protect Islam, and destroy its enemies, the tyrants, and the corrupt. O God, close the Muslim ranks and give wisdom to their leaders." He goes on: "O God, give victory to the mujahidin for the sake of your religion and elevate Your word everywhere. O God, help the mujahidin score victory in Palestine, Kashmir, and Chechnya. O God, destroy the tyrant Jews for they are within your power."
[FBIS (A US government agency) Report] Doha Qatar Television Service in Arabic, official television station of the State of Qatar, on 9 August 2002 at 0849 GMT carries a 58-minute live sermon from the Umar Bin-al-Khattab Mosque in Doha. Shaykh Anwar al-Badawi delivers the sermon... "The enemies have not left us any other choice. How could they try to prohibit martyrdom operations? Regrettably, some Muslim Arab politicians describe these martyrdom-seekers as terrorists." Our Islam, he says, is a religion of mercy and guidance and allows fighting only to repulse aggression. He says: "Islam does not know terrorism. Moreover, it fights all forms of terrorism, but it encourages martyrdom operations against aggressors." .... Concluding, the imam prays to God: "O God, destroy the usurper Jews and the vile Christians. O God, destroy the Jews. O God, pour Your anger on them. O God, destroy them. O God, support our Palestinian brothers, give them courage, and have mercy on them and their martyrs, children, and women."
The USA has mosques scattered all over. There are four in Ohio that I know of, but I wonder what would happen if a Christian church was proposed for an arab nation?
How about a few bombs for Mecca after we wipe out the Saudi oilfields?
Now that truly would be a War on Terrorism.
Of which there are none in the story posted....[As has been pointed out already]....that was a tangeant introduced by you so as to facilitate an opportunity to communicate your unqualified perspective.
Those are the comments to be discarded.
"I have mentioned nothing that would make anyone think I was commenting on any specific religion"
I have made no comment asserting that you did. You put forth the unqualified "thought" that all religions could be correct in their teaching.
"other than I don't think the Muslim religion is evil."
Obviously....but considering "Evil" is a classification with its roots in organized religion, how would you know?
"I don't give credence to any organised religion. Matters of religion are not the same as specific beliefs in any organised religion, ie, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc."
None of that is consequential to the discussion. Again, a desire to tell what you "think" even though it is not germain to the discussion.
"It appears that you have a great desire to win"
Winning will determine itself. My concern at this point is exposing your complete lack of credibility when commenting on the correctness or lack-there-of for any organized religion.
"...so I will sign off.
At this point, that is the best decision you could make....[Other than Salvation of course].
~grin~
While it may not be unique throughout history (this isn’t a new call for followers of Islam , for example) I don’t believe any of your examples ever called for the destruction of a civilian population based on their faith, or condoned civilian deaths at all, other than in connection with military operations. I certainly don’t believe they prayed for it.
I think you’re focusing on the verbal similarity of an Islamic sermon, vs a Christian one, rather than the genocidal aspect of these Imman’s definition of “enemies”. They aren’t calling for “smiting enemies” in a military sense, rather for the murder of a large slice of the world’s population, based on faith.
But it is of little consequence when his prime motive is to explain his unsolicited "thoughts" about Religion in general as a sort of fait accompli towards his own validation and ultimate acceptance.
I am not being malevolent about it...just drilling down a little deeper then maybe some would.
Muslims claim their God is the same God as the God of the Bible. Can't be. They contradict each other. Ever hear of the law of non-contradiction? They can say whatever they like, but the Koran contradicts the bible on hundreds of points, including the nature of the one God. As I said, their God originated from the moon god - this is documented quite well by archeologists.
Islam is patterned on a sort of twisted Judaism with a bit of twisted Christianity thrown in. The business of there being only one God didn't come from some pagan moon-cult, even if Islam still has some elements of it.
You are right, there are some elements of judaism and Christianity thrown in - that's because Islam didn't come for 600 years after Christianity. What they did was twist the bible into something of their own liking. The entire religion is built upon irrational lies and the evidence militates against it - especially archeology. The business of one God started in the beginning when God placed man on this earth. Contrary to what the naturalist professors teach in universities, theistic belief was monotheistic in the beginning, and became polytheistic later, not vice versa.
Muslims claim their God is the same God as the God of the Bible. Can't be...
This is of course correct, but Arab Cristians also call God "Allah". It's just what the word means. There were Arab Christians long before Muhammad.
Just as "Baal" means "master" or "Adonis" means "lord" without diminishing the proper use of those titles.
Islam is patterned on a sort of twisted Judaism with a bit of twisted Christianity thrown in. The business of there being only one God didn't come from some pagan moon-cult, even if Islam still has some elements of it.
...Contrary to what the naturalist professors teach in universities, theistic belief was monotheistic in the beginning, and became polytheistic later, not vice versa. I'm sure that's true.
I know. I had to stick up for Grant and Lee, Patton and St. Joan too.
Personal experience has left me too bitter to safely detail my wishes here, and too old to change my ways.
Needless to say I would prefer something a little more global. And Instead of destroying Mecca, I'd like to see the mosque there turned into a rib joint, with a really huge parking lot. Medina can house the keg bar.
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