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IS THIS A PERSON?
8/5/02 | jwalsh07

Posted on 08/05/2002 5:30:51 PM PDT by jwalsh07

AMENDMENT 14
SECTION 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

GE 4D Image Of a Baby



TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionismean; baby; catholiclist; constitution; halliburton; life; prolife; righttolife; unborn
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To: jwalsh07

Well done. The truth is like a two-edged sword...


601 posted on 11/15/2004 5:12:57 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Sungirl
Here are some photos of babies aborted in the first trimester, for those preoccupied with trimesters.
602 posted on 11/15/2004 5:17:48 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Zon
The fetus is a natural female growth.

A penis is "a natural female growth?" (when it's a male child in utero).

A person owns all parts of their body.

False. God does. Nevertheless, a baby isn't a part of the mother, unless you believe that people can have two kinds of DNA. You might want to alert forensic investigators to your discovery.

603 posted on 11/15/2004 5:25:04 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: UltraKonservativen

Isn't it obvious. Do you really need me to tell you?


604 posted on 11/15/2004 5:35:02 AM PST by Zon
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To: Aquinasfan

False. God does.

You're a hoot.! Step away from the Kool-Aid.

BTW, many people have multiple kinds of DNA.

605 posted on 11/15/2004 5:44:55 AM PST by Zon
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To: jwalsh07

case close. rock on.


606 posted on 11/15/2004 5:46:03 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: mamelukesabre
eyes of big brother

"big brother" is a myth.

607 posted on 11/15/2004 5:47:11 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
case close

no, no, no: case closED.

608 posted on 11/15/2004 5:48:35 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: Zon

That's one hell of a cat and mouse game you play.
Your argument gets torn to pieces and you pretend to elevate yourself to a plane above the argument...I wasn't speaking of abortion, I was merely speaking of appendages...
B.S!
Zon, it is a person NOT AN APPENDAGE. Abortion kills a person. It is not like clipping your toenails.


609 posted on 11/15/2004 6:06:54 AM PST by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: Zon
You asserted (incorrectly, but fully in line with your twisted agenda that is propped up with lies, dissembling, and gross mischaracterizations), "The fetus is a natural female growth." The child gestating within a woman's womb has attached itself to her body by invading her cell structure. The newly conceived LIFE built its own structure/organ with which he or she did this 'burrowing', and the newly conceived individual life maintains a chemical separation from the woman's body in order to derive nourishment and oxygen while avoiding the immune system of the woman's body. When you get this clearer in your understanding, come on back and we'll go further. The woman has not 'grown' anything, she has been tapped for shelter, nourishment, and oxygen by a completely separate entity.
610 posted on 11/15/2004 6:26:55 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: UltraKonservativen

I've been specifically clear since the beginning of this thread that my arguments are that a fetus is an appendage. I never elevated myself above the argument. That's your straw-man. I repeat from my last post to you, "Isn't it obvious. Do you really need me to tell you?"


611 posted on 11/15/2004 6:31:03 AM PST by Zon
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To: MHGinTN

The woman has not 'grown' anything, she has been tapped for shelter, nourishment, and oxygen by a completely separate entity.

A woman's fetus is her property and yes she does grow it. Perhaps you should posit your parasite assertion to a doctor: "Doctor, is a fetus a parasite or an appendage?" Despite the doctors reply obviously you may continue arguing your assertion that it's a parasite.

612 posted on 11/15/2004 6:38:59 AM PST by Zon
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To: Zon; hocndoc; LadyDoc

Let's just do that. I'll ping a couple of doctors that are Freepers. Stick around, jerk.


613 posted on 11/15/2004 7:35:00 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Zon

BTW, I didn't assert that the prenatal being is a parasite, I assereted that your asinine assertion of appendage was less accurate for your style argument than to assert that the prenatal is a parasitic arrangement. But that was a nice try at constructing a strawman.


614 posted on 11/15/2004 7:36:37 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

So you sling ad hominiem insult at me. How immature is that! I suppose you think that encourages people to continue discussions with you. On the other hand it may may be that you're just easily lead around by your emotions.


615 posted on 11/15/2004 7:57:51 AM PST by Zon
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To: MHGinTN

Hey, the parasite analogy -- while wrong -- was yours, not mine. You created, not me. Deal with it, or don't. It's not my problem -- it's yours.


616 posted on 11/15/2004 7:58:19 AM PST by Zon
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To: jwalsh07
The answer to your question "Is this baby a person" can best and most conclusively be answered by CHILDREN. My bet is that if you ask any CHILD if this picture is a person, they will say "Yes, and a cute one at that."

Let's start by asking LIBERALS' CHILDREN if this picture is a person.

617 posted on 11/15/2004 8:03:26 AM PST by Miss Behave (There's a WMD hidden in Suha's double chin.)
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To: jwalsh07
Pro-abortion and anti-death penalty..

How much more stupid can libs get....wait, don't answer that, ALOT more....

618 posted on 11/15/2004 8:03:44 AM PST by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Zon
A woman's fetus is her property

Southerners claimed that black slaves were their property, too. That didn't make it true. If the unborn child is a human person, it is the "property" of no other human. If it's not a human person, asserting that it's someone's property is merely assuming what you're trying to prove, and that makes your argument a circular one.

619 posted on 11/15/2004 8:07:31 AM PST by Campion
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To: Bowana
Yes, but as long as the fetus is physically connected to the mother, it is not a person

Conjoined twins are phyiscally connected. They're people, right?

620 posted on 11/15/2004 8:07:54 AM PST by Uncledave
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