Skeleton found in Civil War ironclad

AP ^ | August 3, 2002 | AP

[USA21]

HATTERAS, North Carolina (AP) -- Navy divers preparing to raise the 160-ton gun turret of the ironclad USS Monitor from the bottom of the Atlantic have found what is believed to be the skeleton of one of the Civil War ship's doomed sailors.

[teeman8r]

I'm still wondering did Richard III actually kill his nephews?

richard just killed three of his nephews, erego the three notches after his name...

[doglot]

FYI

[spetznaz]

Is it just me or is the upcoming US Navy DD-21 Zumwalt Class multi-mission destroyers, bound to enter service in 2012, look like an amalgamation of the USS Monitor and the CSS Virginia (the Merrimack)?

Obviously there is no comparison between the DD-21 and the Monitor/Virginia vessels since comparing the DD-21 to the Monitor is like comparing a sailing sloop with an aircraft carrier .....however based solely on external looks (and removing aspects like size, capabilities, tech, weaponry etc etc) do they not look rather similar?

Well, here are the pictures:

First up the DD-21 Zumwalt Class multi-mission Destroyer:

And now for a medley of photos depicting the Monitor, a post office stamp of the Monitor versus the Virginia, the USS Atlanta (ex-CSS atlanta) and the CSS Virginia in that order:

[Arkinsaw]

Here is one that is pretty close:

[Morgan's Raider]

The Cairo was raised, partially restored, and is on display at tne Vicksburg National Battlefield. There is also an exhibit of bric-a-brac including personal items of crew members that was recovered from the wreckage. It gives one a pretty good idea of life aboard a ship during the War of Northern Agression.

The boat is considerably bigger than one might expect for a river craft, and the hole where the mine got it is plainly evident in the bow (port side, IIRC). Several of the guns are also in place, and much of the massive engine machinery was recovered.

[MinuteGal]

"The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be.
That which is done is that which shall be done.
And there is no new thing under the sun".

(Ecclesiastes 1.9)

Leni

[P8riot]

The resemblance is not coincidental. An old college buddy of mine is a naval architect who was part of a staff of designers that were working on the DD-21 design. They were looking for a design that was stealthy, stable in rough seas (i.e. low center of gravity), and able to carry a significant payload. They studied all kinds of ships, but after looking at the old ironclads realized just how far ahead of their time they were. I won't say that they set out to copy the design, but they added the 20th/21st century improvements, and came up with this design.

Funny how the more things change, the more they remain the same.

The War of Northern Aggression (sorry yanks, but it's true) gave us a great many improvements in the art of war, many of which are still in use in one form or another to this day.

[stainlessbanner]

Looks like the boys at ARPA and LockMart were thinkin' the same thing!

[stainlessbanner]

Jimer - thanks for posting the CS Naval flags - I had never seen the first two. I especially like the 1st NJ (probably b/c I am partial to the Bonnie Blue). Which one did the Hunley fly under?

[Morgan's Raider]

Which one did the Hunley fly under?

You mean 'which one flew over the Hunley'?
Or 'which one did the Hunley sink under'? (g)

[r9etb]

I seem to recall reading that the banging and clanging of shot against metal was absolutely deafening. Probably not something they'd anticipated, and undoubtedly excruciating for the crew....

[patton]

You want a real surprise, go look up the original design of the Stealth Bomber.

Nazi Germany.

The prototype is in the Smithsonian Air-and-Space.

[stainlessbanner]

Which one did the Hunley fly under?

Well Shootfire! You mean the Hunley didn't have wings? heh heh!

Man, I got to watch my vocab. Good catch!

[WhiskeyPapa]

Is it just me or is the upcoming US Navy DD-21 Zumwalt Class multi-mission destroyers, bound to enter service in 2012, look like an amalgamation of the USS Monitor and the CSS Virginia (the Merrimack)?

Not only that, but I hear all three had completely passive sensor systems.

Walt

[Consort]

Which one did the Hunley fly under?

I don't know.

[jumpstartme]

It's great to know that. I've visited many battlefield sites, but haven't yet made it to Vicksburg. One day soon...

[lizma]

"Is it just me or is the upcoming US Navy DD-21 Zumwalt Class multi-mission destroyers, bound to enter service in 2012, look like an amalgamation of the USS Monitor and the CSS Virginia (the Merrimack)? "

Good point. Very good point.

History repeats itself. Something libs prefer to ignore.

[Phantom Lord]

The Monitor was built in NY in case anyone didnt know.