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In-House Wars: For at least one, the goal was to drive people away.
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Posted on 08/03/2002 10:16:57 AM PDT by justshe

(Regarding the answer to stopping the 'in-house wars')

The answer is for everyone to just stop doing it.

I know that is hard for some, because things have gotten to the point where now things are personal. There are wounds in some cases, and in others there is anger. Makes it really hard for people to stand down. Unfortunately, I am pretty sure it has been planned this way.

Earlier tonight thanks to a tip from someone who I wish I had listened to earlier, we discovered someone who had at least 8 different accounts. One bashed Horowitz, Swaggert, and Art Bell. Another bashed Keyes. Another posted as a rabid Keyester. Another posted as a Klayman basher. Several seemed to have a thing for mocking Registered.

What was the guy's game? Here is a graphic and caption off of the profile of one of them:

I'm very sorry, but I just couldn't stand all the fighting any longer!

Yes, he wanted to get people fighting to where they would walk away.

One of this guy's incarnations posted a piece or two from anarchist website strike-the-root, which to me hints to what his ideology is. It would also explain why he had a knack for going after the DC chapter folks. I recall nrkybill (anarchy Bill) had some issues with you all. They are not the same people, I don't think, but if their ideology is the same and their main targets are the same, then it is possible that there is some connection.

Obviously, the goal is to drive people away. This is not happening on just one side, it is happening on all sides. It is a form of disruption that relies on the cover of good people engaging in flame wars with them so that the disruptors seem part of the mass rather than the agent provocatuers that they are.

There are two options, really. People can help us out in finding them by refusing to take part in the flame wars and being understanding when a person gets sent to the cooler, so that eventually the real problem children are rooted out.

And the other option is to let them win by letting them drive you away- with you being people from every single conservative faction we have. Rest assured though, if that one happens, if you make another home and it starts being successful, they will come there and do it to you there.

I've asked this before. I'll ask it again. (And this is not aimed at you, ... but at the forum). Please stop it with the personal attacks. One can have a rip-roaring take-it-to-the-mat political debate with someone without getting personal, without resorting to childish taunts, and still not have it be bland.

And the best thing that one can do otherwise is to use a little self-enforcement. A Bushie telling a Bushie to knock off the insults is going to probably work better than a Keyester telling a Bushie to knock off the insults, and vice versa.

My flame suits are back on, so everyone have at it again. But please at least think about it. Thanks, AM


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To: Dominic Harr; discostu
Do you two really want to keep carrying on publicly like this? It's not a pretty sight.
401 posted on 08/05/2002 10:30:51 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: MeeknMing
LOL! All I could think of was Howard popping in to their apt and saying, "I did it Bob!"
402 posted on 08/05/2002 10:38:55 AM PDT by terilyn
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To: Clara Lou
He sent me a 'private' FReepmail that was so full of words you can't say on television I was hoping that this thread might be a chance to deal with that without having to go the authorities, so to speak.

If I'm bothering ya'll, I will drop it. Perhaps I should have just let the admins handle it in the first place. But I'm just not really that kind of guy, I try to work this kind of stuff out myself.

I'm truly sorry for annoying you. I won't post to this thread again.

403 posted on 08/05/2002 10:47:46 AM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Admin Moderator
I have to wonder about the need for the "Find in Forum" feature to begin with. Why do others really need to know where a particular poster has been posting?

On the other hand, a "Find in Thread" feature can be very helpful on long threads, in preventing statements from being taken out of context and thereby aiding in flame control.

404 posted on 08/05/2002 11:48:24 AM PDT by inquest
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To: terilyn
lol !
405 posted on 08/05/2002 1:34:39 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: .30Carbine; RightOnGOP; All
Thank you, .30Carbine for taking the time to bring RightOnGOP's wise words back to this thread ... for the second time ... and they still seem, sadly ignored ... I knew I was close in quoting him ... but his exact words have so much more impact. Plus ... now I know who said them!!

See. This is the power of FreeRepublic .... you never know how or when your thoughts and words can catch another's ... and make them think ... and ACT!

I am not usually vocal ... liking to stay in the hinterlands and listen, then learn ... then ACT ... but, I digress ... here's RightOnGOP's words ... brought to you by him then by me, poorly ... then returned to their very appropriate orginal form by .30Carbine ... maybe they might help to redirect this spectacularly confusing thread ....

"NO SINGLE FR POST HAS THE POTENTIAL TO ELECT REPUBLICANS/CONSERVATIVES. BUT A SINGLE FR POSTER HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REGISTER REPUBLICANS,AND GET VOTES BY HELPING!"

If only we would harness all the angst flying around these days ... and really DO something to grease the wheels of justice ... baby steps back to what is right .... I am going to be an election judge! ... in Maryland! ... and I find fault with much of Ehrlich's core beliefs ... but I have to start somewhere ... years and years of liberal wax ... clouding up the cherrywood floor, here ...

Come on, people ... 8 years of stupified anger is ENOUGH ... the time is now to move our agenda along ... who's your Reps?! Who's up for election in your part of the Country?! ... what Repubs in your area are running?! ... what are you doing ... to get them IN ... get them in?! ... we'll all sort it out later ...

We here, at FreeRepublic ... can weed out the ringers in a heartbeat ... after we win both Houses back !!!!...

I ... none of us ... should care who among us said what to who .... it's not important ... 60 YEARS of liberal decay is marching right up behind us ... we are at WAR ... the time is NOW ... NOW! ... stop the silly madness ...

Nuts ... I sound nuts ... but the energy spent here on this thread for the last couple of days ... so many bright and dedicated Conservatives ... with a few not so wondrous folks ... could have been spent in so many better ways ... it's ground zero time ...and we're letting the gold ring fly right by why we fight amongst ourselves ....

406 posted on 08/05/2002 3:26:37 PM PDT by illstillbe
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Another account that I suspect ned had was under the screename "humblethefiend".

I had suspected "humblethefiend" for a long time. I even called him on it HERE.

You'll notice I usually avoided posting to him or on his threads. It's interesting to look back at the thread linked or his other threads to see who enjoyed exchanging posts with him and who avoided him.

407 posted on 08/05/2002 8:12:19 PM PDT by Keyes For President
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To: justshe
I have reverted to lurking becuse I have sensed that there is both a concerted and focused effort on the part of organized "opinion shapers" as well as those that "get their rocks off" inciting flames wars et. al.

In a post that I offered some time ago, i indicated that I was watching certain individuals that seem to use the same invectives and demeaning language, althought there were different screen names. Several people sent me frep-mail and told me that I was both correct and crazy (I prefer to think of myself as being correct). Free Republic is an anathma to the liberals. It is therefore not surprising that there would be effrots to deride and derail its existance and mission. But, it continues. The resiliance of this forum often astounds me. But, vigilance is eternal. Freepers have to be painfully aware that there will continue to be those, whose mission in life is to incite flame wars and at their most successful, sic the law on obtuse statements that are made in the heat of the moment. The largest liberal victory would be for Free Republic to pull the plug. So, we cannot let that happen.

Semper Fi

408 posted on 08/06/2002 7:58:23 AM PDT by Trident/Delta
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To: Trident/Delta
***So, we cannot let that happen.***

And I think that was the overall message of the moderator's comments.
409 posted on 08/06/2002 8:42:31 AM PDT by justshe
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To: FreedominJesusChrist; Howlin; Amelia; OneidaM



Hmmmmmm..... not even eleven days......
410 posted on 08/25/2002 3:23:10 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport
deport,

It's just that I find you to be so irresistible, you just keep me coming back--I just can't hep it. You are my #1 favorite Freeper here!

411 posted on 08/25/2002 7:22:52 PM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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