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In-House Wars: For at least one, the goal was to drive people away.
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Posted on 08/03/2002 10:16:57 AM PDT by justshe

(Regarding the answer to stopping the 'in-house wars')

The answer is for everyone to just stop doing it.

I know that is hard for some, because things have gotten to the point where now things are personal. There are wounds in some cases, and in others there is anger. Makes it really hard for people to stand down. Unfortunately, I am pretty sure it has been planned this way.

Earlier tonight thanks to a tip from someone who I wish I had listened to earlier, we discovered someone who had at least 8 different accounts. One bashed Horowitz, Swaggert, and Art Bell. Another bashed Keyes. Another posted as a rabid Keyester. Another posted as a Klayman basher. Several seemed to have a thing for mocking Registered.

What was the guy's game? Here is a graphic and caption off of the profile of one of them:

I'm very sorry, but I just couldn't stand all the fighting any longer!

Yes, he wanted to get people fighting to where they would walk away.

One of this guy's incarnations posted a piece or two from anarchist website strike-the-root, which to me hints to what his ideology is. It would also explain why he had a knack for going after the DC chapter folks. I recall nrkybill (anarchy Bill) had some issues with you all. They are not the same people, I don't think, but if their ideology is the same and their main targets are the same, then it is possible that there is some connection.

Obviously, the goal is to drive people away. This is not happening on just one side, it is happening on all sides. It is a form of disruption that relies on the cover of good people engaging in flame wars with them so that the disruptors seem part of the mass rather than the agent provocatuers that they are.

There are two options, really. People can help us out in finding them by refusing to take part in the flame wars and being understanding when a person gets sent to the cooler, so that eventually the real problem children are rooted out.

And the other option is to let them win by letting them drive you away- with you being people from every single conservative faction we have. Rest assured though, if that one happens, if you make another home and it starts being successful, they will come there and do it to you there.

I've asked this before. I'll ask it again. (And this is not aimed at you, ... but at the forum). Please stop it with the personal attacks. One can have a rip-roaring take-it-to-the-mat political debate with someone without getting personal, without resorting to childish taunts, and still not have it be bland.

And the best thing that one can do otherwise is to use a little self-enforcement. A Bushie telling a Bushie to knock off the insults is going to probably work better than a Keyester telling a Bushie to knock off the insults, and vice versa.

My flame suits are back on, so everyone have at it again. But please at least think about it. Thanks, AM


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To: maxwell
guard thine piece

methinks he spends a fair amount of time doing such..

301 posted on 08/04/2002 2:00:44 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: maxwell
O lilliterate loiterer!

????????????

I haven't read all the hundreds of posts here so I'm not sure what this means. Humorus but?????

302 posted on 08/04/2002 2:01:46 PM PDT by billva
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To: TigersEye
I scuttleth mine sorry arse away like a dung-crawling barnbeetle! ;)
303 posted on 08/04/2002 2:02:34 PM PDT by maxwell
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To: justshe
Thanks, and I have stuck around. Probably won't ever go completly away. However I can assure you that a number of people I refered here are not checking in any longer.
304 posted on 08/04/2002 2:03:20 PM PDT by billva
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To: maxwell; xsmommy
Don't worry maxwell I'm on to her...Thou bloodier villain than terms can give thee out!

305 posted on 08/04/2002 2:06:01 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: maxwell
Guess I'm catching on. It sure doesn't help my delima though.
306 posted on 08/04/2002 2:06:21 PM PDT by billva
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To: dubyaismypresident; maxwell; TigersEye; .30Carbine
maxwell is running because tiger's eye looked cross-eyed at him for making goo-goo eyes at .30....
307 posted on 08/04/2002 2:07:39 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: terilyn
Looking back, I don't necessarily believe he/she was a liberal disruptor.

I think the posts were designed to make us look at ourselves.

Whether Larry Klayman, Alan Keyes, or GWB. I honestly believe he/she was trying to make us see how ridiculous it was to worship another human.

Face it, the JW threads would have gone no better and no worse had "ned" not contributed. His posts on those threads were few and very short. None were attacking and most were done with humor.

Good post.

308 posted on 08/04/2002 2:09:01 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: FreedominJesusChrist; All
You brought up the fact that humble was a Keyes fan, but failed to acknowledge that ned, portrayed himself to be a Bush Republican. If you knew that ned and humble were the same person ...

I can't help it ... this sounded so funny to me ... It reminds me of a poorly written soap opera ... as follows:

When Brick Stone finally realized that Ned and Humble were really one in the same, he felt a confusion unknown to him before! For Nora, Brick's sister, had married Humble... shortly after the earthquake ... leaving, Brick thought, Ned out in the cold ... but then, of course, there was the rock slide ... bringin' Nora and Ned and some guy whose name I forget ... but he had all the answers ... together ... and if they survive ... Humble will be out for revenge ...

LOL!

Sometimes we all take ourselves so seriously ...

Forgive me, please, for not remembering the poster who said the following ..."Not a single post will help the conservative cause .... but a single poster who DOES something ... will...'

There you have it ....

309 posted on 08/04/2002 2:10:24 PM PDT by illstillbe
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To: xsmommy
Bwahaha... I deserved that, didn't I chickie! Bad Max... Bad bad Max...

Been a long weekend in the lab, my happy arse is whupped, going to down some brewskies, since a certain wench I know refuses to bring forth any ale...

310 posted on 08/04/2002 2:10:50 PM PDT by maxwell
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To: xsmommy
maxwell is running because tiger's eye looked cross-eyed

How does an eye, look cross eyed....Isn't that like one hand clapping?

311 posted on 08/04/2002 2:10:51 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: justshe
I've had mine since 1998. Not very original, but I've grown fond of it.
312 posted on 08/04/2002 2:13:24 PM PDT by jellybean
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To: illstillbe
(((HUGEROOONIES)))
313 posted on 08/04/2002 2:15:35 PM PDT by Neets
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To: dubyaismypresident
too many eyes in that sentence. i sounded like richard cohen....
314 posted on 08/04/2002 2:15:45 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: illstillbe
ROFL!! (and great point at the end!)
315 posted on 08/04/2002 2:17:48 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: maxwell
for you maxie...

I find the ass in compound with the major part of your syllables.

316 posted on 08/04/2002 2:19:14 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: billva; .30Carbine
Reply away.

Howdy! My wife, .30Carbine, regrets that she can't reply to you right now. She has been threatening to fix us dinner for a couple of hours now and the time has finally come.

I'll give you my two cents worth though. I've been here since Aug. 2000 and I've witnessed various evolutions and phases as well. As far as any harsher demeanor or more nasty rhetoric, I don't see it. FR has always been a rough and tumble place. I've been insulted, threatened and dismissed as worthless. I've insulted, threatened and dismissed others as worthless. I have never hit the abuse button and as far as I know no one has hit it on me. (Considering some of the things I've said that's plumb amazing.)

No one in any way shape or form could intimidate or discourage me from posting here. I hope no one ever leaves on my account either. (If they do I won't lose a wink of sleep over it.)

As many who are familiar with my posts know I have a pretty rough edge and a very caustic sense of humor. Others may be worse. Some FReepers are so sappy syrupy sweet they make my stomach flip flop like a gaffed seal. But FR is still the best. (IMO)

If there's a subject worth discussing, it's on FR. If there's something missing from the official position of a story there is no better crew around to find out the real skinny and put it out there. The diversity of opinions is invaluable in keeping a balanced perspective. It keeps my bias in check. In short I love FR and the fact that somebody may jump down my throat as soon as I open my mouth is just spice to me.

FReegards, TigersEye

317 posted on 08/04/2002 2:24:28 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: billva
bill...check out the link on post #232. It is a website that gives you 'insults' from Shakespearan plays. That is what you see the folks here playing with. Olde english invectives.
318 posted on 08/04/2002 2:26:09 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Sir Gawain; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Well, the AM isn't talking about you. You only had, what, four accounts?

I have one. Here is Jim to confirm it, if you like. I don't think I will bring up yours to save you embrassment.

Still stalking me Sirgwain? This is the third time in 3 weeks where in a thread of well over 300 posts, your only comment to me was like this?

Run along now, little sirgawain. And grow up.

319 posted on 08/04/2002 2:27:16 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: maxwell; billva
I scuttleth mine sorry arse away like a dung-crawling barnbeetle!

Now you see, billva, how maxwell smoothly deals with a little subtle intimidation? ;^)

320 posted on 08/04/2002 2:28:15 PM PDT by TigersEye
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