Posted on 08/03/2002 10:16:57 AM PDT by justshe
(Regarding the answer to stopping the 'in-house wars')
The answer is for everyone to just stop doing it.
I know that is hard for some, because things have gotten to the point where now things are personal. There are wounds in some cases, and in others there is anger. Makes it really hard for people to stand down. Unfortunately, I am pretty sure it has been planned this way.
Earlier tonight thanks to a tip from someone who I wish I had listened to earlier, we discovered someone who had at least 8 different accounts. One bashed Horowitz, Swaggert, and Art Bell. Another bashed Keyes. Another posted as a rabid Keyester. Another posted as a Klayman basher. Several seemed to have a thing for mocking Registered.
What was the guy's game? Here is a graphic and caption off of the profile of one of them:
Yes, he wanted to get people fighting to where they would walk away.
One of this guy's incarnations posted a piece or two from anarchist website strike-the-root, which to me hints to what his ideology is. It would also explain why he had a knack for going after the DC chapter folks. I recall nrkybill (anarchy Bill) had some issues with you all. They are not the same people, I don't think, but if their ideology is the same and their main targets are the same, then it is possible that there is some connection.
Obviously, the goal is to drive people away. This is not happening on just one side, it is happening on all sides. It is a form of disruption that relies on the cover of good people engaging in flame wars with them so that the disruptors seem part of the mass rather than the agent provocatuers that they are.
There are two options, really. People can help us out in finding them by refusing to take part in the flame wars and being understanding when a person gets sent to the cooler, so that eventually the real problem children are rooted out.
And the other option is to let them win by letting them drive you away- with you being people from every single conservative faction we have. Rest assured though, if that one happens, if you make another home and it starts being successful, they will come there and do it to you there.
I've asked this before. I'll ask it again. (And this is not aimed at you, ... but at the forum). Please stop it with the personal attacks. One can have a rip-roaring take-it-to-the-mat political debate with someone without getting personal, without resorting to childish taunts, and still not have it be bland.
And the best thing that one can do otherwise is to use a little self-enforcement. A Bushie telling a Bushie to knock off the insults is going to probably work better than a Keyester telling a Bushie to knock off the insults, and vice versa.
My flame suits are back on, so everyone have at it again. But please at least think about it. Thanks, AM
We'll really miss ya.
I repeat, I thought everyone knew ned had more than one screen name.
I did not know, and am not yet convinced, that he was a liberal disruptor.
If you'll recall, there were more people bashing Larry Klayman on those threads than there were defending him.
Uh, I didn't post it, it must've been Errant_Tickle-brained_Apple-john. Not that I would know anything about HIM.
Having said all that let me say that I am more than a little frustrated in the last 6 months to a year here. I am a Bush supporter and make no mistake. While open to conservatives who may have some frustration with him, I am turned off by the constant bashing of Bush by many here. What I am not sure of is how much of that represents real Freepers and how much represents the disrupters. It makes a difference to me, because I do not feel much of anything in common with folks who intend to take a hike the next election because Bush is not conservative enough for them and who feel the need to bash him as much as what goes on here. So I am frustrated and will probably continue to monitor but don't really feel like contributing to keep going at this point.
I might also add that most of the people that I turned onto this site have turned off to it because they see things as a bit radical for them.
I'm looking for a group that while their might be some disagreement on how to proceed still keeps in mind that winning is also important. That because I may not be as far right as them does not make me some left wing loony or a RINO. A term that while worthwhile is certainly misused by some folks here.
Is this the place for me? Right now I am not sure. This topic will probably keep me around a bit longer, but my feeling is that it is not the forum it was when I managed to stumble on it in mid 2000.
No fine as long as it's used correctly. However, I notice you're using carlo3b's former screen name. He may be entitled to royalties.
Perhaps I could 'rent' it from jellybean once in awhile?
No need to rent it...it's usage is free. I do ask that you submit your request, with the sentence containing the word highlighted, at least 3 days prior to usage. This will ensure that that the high standard I've set for it's usage will be maintained.
You can't leave that way. You need to put up an opus thread FIJC.
Oh ya, well... Thou paunchy spur-galled clack-dish!
...didn't you?
A+
Back at you, Thou beslubbering fool-born strumpet!
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