Feds Arrest Al Qaeda Suspects With Plans to Poison Water Supplies on Them

fox ^ | 7/29/02

[knak]

WASHINGTON

[sarasmom]

And TIPS is not running either!

[boris]

"Let me guess. They were going to use floride ?"

No, there's no chemical by that name.

--Boris,

And don't ask about "Polybathroomflooride"!

[jwalsh07]

If one does the calcs, it is very difficult to conduct a massive poisoning by water supplies unless it is done directly at local treatment facilities. Poisoning a reservoir takes dump trucks worth of contaminant and then dispersing it.

Which is why that wouldn't be there target. These people are not stupid, they are evil sob's but they aren't stupid.

Check this out for example.

[Freee-dame]

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[SBeck]

My guess is a dozen to two dozen, and all are very scared right now.

These "people" have already shown a willingness to die for their "cause". The only thing they are afraid of is not dying as a martyr.

[APBaer]

"I hope Archibald Mohammed does not slip away!"

Yes, he might hole up at the manse of his uncle, Archibald Montague Mohammed.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Round them all up!

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[VRWC_minion]

Any spelling deficts are fully the responsibility of my pubik skool attendance.

[Grut]

Er... can we be a little careful about this? These guys are prominent Moslem radicals, the FBI has been nosing around them for months and they still keep incriminating documents in the house?

The Department of Justice has a recent history of making vague, alarming claims that later turn out to be piffle. Maybe it's real this time, but maybe not.

[Carry_Okie]

I wasn't going to write about interruption of delivery for reasons of security. Poisoning other than by very localized means is still a lot harder to do than most people realize.

[Texasforever]

How did that happen? The Homeland Security Department isn't established yet.

By that statement you obviously don't know a lot about what the Homeland Security Agency is and its structure.

[sam_paine]

If one does the calcs, it is very difficult to conduct a massive poisoning by water supplies unless it is done directly at local treatment facilities.

That's not completely true. Water distribution systems are not one-way. If you really do the math, it would seem to me that terrorists could inject poison into a water main from any house/commercial building they decide to set up in.

They would need a pump that could pump X GPM of poison at greater pressure than is presented at their tap, say like 60 psi, or maybe a coupla horsepower. depending on where in the system they pick, they could get huge amounts of crud into the system without any accurate way of detecting the source. Pump stations require huge pumps to fill massive GPM at the same pressure...whereas you need less pressure to get a small flow backdriven through a 2" feed from the street.

You don't need to "back a truck up" to a resevoir out in the open!!!

So we should pull the records of Ozarka and Culligan and see if any of their customers drink a suspicious amount of bottled water in a small building.....

[Libertina]

flouride... LOL

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Don't forget his brother Darryl Mohamed and his other brother Darryl Mohamed.

[marshmallow]

Federal officials have arrested two Al Qaeda terror suspects in the U.S. with documents in their possession about how to poison the country's water supplies, Fox News has learned

1. Go to reservoir

2. Take down pants.

3. Do wee-wee and poo-poo.

4. Run away.

NB. In case of detection by infidel pigs, reverse order of 2 & 3.

[oceanperch]

I thought allot of us here in Oregon had wells?

[dennisw]

 

Sources say the Ujaama brothers and Osman are all tied to a prominent radical Muslim cleric in London named Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Masri. Al-Masri is a one-eyed mullah who is often seen preaching at the Finsbury Park Mosque in North London and is wanted in Yemen on terrorism charges

What's with all these mutant Cyclops mullahs? This specimen is also a captain hook guy since he got his hands shot off or was in an explosion

 

Yemen raises terror stakes

Yemen demand for extradition raises terror stakes

By Rory Carroll in Sana'a and Ian Black in London
Tuesday January 26, 1999

Yemen yesterday challenged Britain to show it was not a haven for terrorists by extraditing the London-based Islamic extremist accused of sending Britons on a bombing mission to the Arabian state.

In a letter to Tony Blair delivered to the British embassy in Sana'a, Yemen's president Ali Abdullah Saleh demanded that Abu Hamza al- Masri be handed over to face charges of sabotage.

But a defiant Mr Hamza, an imam at Finsbury Park mosque, north London, told the Guardian last night that he would fight to stay in Britain and that the Yemeni government had "a cheek" to request his extradition in the light of its own record on human rights.

He denies sending followers to bomb westerners in the southern port city of Aden. His godson is one of the five Britons whose trial for intent to commit murder opens in Aden tomorrow.

The letter to Mr Blair, handed to the British ambassador, Victor Henderson, expressed "the discontent of the Yemeni government with the terrorist activities led by the terrorist Abu Hamza Al-Masri and other people from British territory," said the official Saba news agency.

Yemen was confident that Britain would "cooperate in efforts to combat terrorism which threatens global security and stability".

Britain has no extradition treaty with Yemen but the Home Office said it would consider the request on an ad hoc basis. Foreign Office sources indicated that any pressure would be counter- productive.

"I'm not surprised," Mr Hamza said. "But in these countries as soon as anyone talks against the government it means a death sentence.

"Ali Abdullah Saleh has a big cheek to do this with his record of human rights, mishandling the economy and forcing his people to resort to kidnapping just to have their basic rights. The British have received many secret demands for my extradition from Egypt and Algeria, but no-one else has had the cheek to ask out loud."

Yemen's demand will be awkward for a government already embarrassed by accusations from by several Middle Eastern regimes that Britain is a haven for Muslim fundamentalist extremists.

Sana'a may be calculating that its request will help force a prosecution of Mr Hamza under legislation rushed through after last summer's Omagh bombing and the terrorist attacks on two US embassies in Africa, which made it a criminal offence in Britain to conspire to commit certain crimes abroad.

Whitehall sources indicated yesterday that Scotland Yard and the Crown Prosecution Service had concluded that there was no case against the Egyptian-born cleric, who lost both hands and an eye fighting the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

"He's tiptoed along the line of what is legal in the UK," said one official. "He is very careful."

Mr Hamza has been under surveillance by the security services for some time. But Whitehall sources admitted it would be difficult to obtain a conviction under a controversial law which critics say could have meant the prosecution of Nelson Mandela during the struggle against apartheid.

Mr Hamza said last night that he had been told by his solicitors that he had done nothing to break the law.

"My job is not to provoke people," he insisted. "My job is to educate."

Yemen accuses Mr Hamza of being the link between the five arrested Britons and Abu Hassan, the Islamic militant whose kidnap of 16 tourists last month ended in the deaths of four. The London cleric is also accused of masterminding attacks in Egypt.

A senior Yemen official said the letter to Mr Blair vented frustation that Yemen was paying the price for the killings by being branded lawless and seeing its tourist industry collapse.

The arrest of the five Britons allegedly motivated Abu Hassan to kidnap tourists to barter their release. A delegation of the men's families, a doctor and lawyer are expected to fly from London to Sana'a today, and then to Aden, in time for tomorrow's trial. Badr Basunaid, the suspects' lawyers, will seek an adjournment to gain more time to prepare the defence.

The five men deny the charge and say their confessions were made after torture. They are : Malik Nassar, 26, Sarmad Ahmed, 21, Shahid Butt, 33, all of Birmingham; Mohsin Ghalain, 18, of London; Ghulam Hussein, 25, of Luton. A sixth suspect, Abdraham James is thought to be an Algerian using a false French passport.

In a separate development, diplomats and Yemen officials predicted Eddie Rosser, aged 61, his wife Mary, 64, and the Koolspra family from Holland, would be freed very soon. They were kidnapped on January 17 by the Shaif tribe who were seeking the release of a relative jailed for allegedly murdering a shopkeeper.

A deal was believed to have been brokered on Sunday night after a visit from a delegation of the Bakeel tribe, a federation to which the Shaif belong.

[FreedomPoster]

My guess is a dozen to two dozen, and all are very scared right now.

And my guess is that they're concentrated in Blue Zone states where the percentage of citizens going about their business armed is extremely small. Glad I don't like there.

[Texasforever]

The fact is that it does not require massive casualties to be effective. One instance and every water source in the country would come under suspicion and people being what they are would be afraid to use anything but bottled water for some time. Look at the reaction to 5 anthrax deaths.

[concerned about politics]

Does it seem that the number of traumatic brain injuries, genetic defectives, and freaks of nature is over-represented in the Jihadist population?

Inbreading.