Replies

The total acreage gets bigger each day. Specific reports will be posted in the replies in this thread.

Fyi.

If you have any later news, please post it,

Fyi

FYI.

If you have any more specific data today, please post it on this threa.

So how is the host of burning Oregon doing with all the guests that you are responsible for insuring a safe night's rest and at least 3 meals and a gallon of water each day?

From the Oregonian via Oregon live:

» More From The Oregonian

News

Burgeoning wildfire moves into Black Butte Ranch

07/29/02

JOSEPH ROSE

As many as 5,000 people fled the Central Oregon resort community of Black Butte Ranch on Sunday after a wildfire suddenly exploded into the complex and destroyed two homes.

Many of the residents and visitors who left via smoke-inundated U.S. 20 started the day golfing, swimming and horseback riding. By late Sunday afternoon, the stiff, erratic winds had doubled the size of the five-day-old Cache Mountain blaze to 3,700 acres and pushed it into the northwest corner of the popular summer resort.

Deschutes County Sheriff Les Stiles said hundreds of fires were burning on the ranch Sunday night, but most were confined to trees and bushes on the west side. Many of the 459 firefighters working the blaze were hitting spot fires and putting them out as quickly as they could, he said.

Fire engines from departments throughout Central Oregon were stationed at threatened houses. Gov. John Kitzhaber invoked the Conflagration Act, which allows firefighters to be sent from other regions to help.

Shortly after 3 p.m., the flames jumped a road and threw spot fires into the resort's Golf Homes section, wedged between the Big Meadow Golf Course and the Deschutes National Forest's tall ponderosa pines. The fire destroyed Golf Homes 96 and 97 on Fiddleneck Lane, leaving nothing but their chimneys standing.

Initially the order was to evacuate only the Golf Homes section of the combination resort-residential subdivision, but the Deschutes County sheriff's department then ordered all of the resort's visitors and residents out about 4:30 p.m.

At 7 p.m., ranch manager Loy Helmly stood in the resort's three-story glass, fir and pine lodge, watching firefighting helicopters lower 50,000-gallon buckets into the lake outside before disappearing into the smoke.

Transportation officials closed U.S. 20 between Santiam Junction and west of Sisters to keep traffic away from the blaze as firetrucks raced to the resort.

Lisa Clark of the Central Oregon Interagency Dispatch Center said the Cache Mountain fire had replaced the Sheldon Ridge blaze near The Dalles as the state's most worrisome. Officials were in the process of redirecting more firefighters and equipment to Sisters.

"We have to determine what (the Cache Mountain's) needs are first," she said. "We're a little surprised" by how quickly it blew up.

Helmly was also astonished. Although wildfires had threatened the 1,830-acre resort in the past, none had done any worse than throw ash and smoke. And, he said, U.S. Forest Service crews regularly clear the resort, including a lane in the northwest corner, of dry underbrush, dead trees and other wildfire fuels.

"I can't say what happened exactly," Helmly said. "It happened quickly, and the fire is still very active."

Firefighters Killed in Rollover in Klamath National Forest, California

07/28/2002

By ANDREW KRAMER, Associated Press Writer

Three firefighters died Sunday when the engine truck they were riding in rolled off a steep, dirt Forest Service road in the Klamath National Forest and tumbled about 800 feet into a ravine, fire officials said.

Two others survived the plunge and were airlifted to the Mercy Medical Center in Redding, Ca., said Brian Harris, a public information officer for the U.S. Forest Service.

The five firefighters were returning from the 620-acre Stanza fire near Happy Camp in Northern California near the Oregon border at about 2 a.m., he said.

"It was a dirt road, very steep and has a drop-off in places up to 800 feet," Harris said.

"Indications are they rolled in the worst possible place. It's safe to say they rolled the entire 800 feet," over rocky and partially wooded terrain, he said.

The Siskiyou County Sheriff's Office is investigating the crash on Elk Creek Road, a U.S. Forest Service route.

"We don't have information yet on why it happened," Harris said.

The about 400 firefighters working the Stanza fires retreated from the lines Sunday into a "safety stand down," and let the blaze burn unchecked, Harris said. No homes were threatened.

"It's a terribly tragic situation. All our sympathies go out to the families," he said.

The deaths brought to 12 the number of wildland firefighters who have killed fighting blazes in the West this summer.

A air tanker crashed last week while beginning a dump of slurry, killing two pilots in Rocky Mountain National Park in Colorado. A similar accident in Northern California last month killed three people on board a tanker.

An Oregon firefighter died while cutting down fire-damaged trees in Colorado when he was hit on the back of the head by a tree that looked healthy but apparently had its roots burned away.

Five firefighters died in June when their van rolled four times on the freeway en route to the Hayman fire in Colorado. Six others were injured in that crash.

(Copyright 2002 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Does anyone have any questions or doubts that the agendas of the Eco Fascists can kill or seriously injure innocent Americans?

I can't comment on this, or I would be given a time out by those who manage Free Republic.

The latest NOAA image of the fires:

Darn. You have my prayers. As far as I can find rain is expected any time soon.

I was using Google to find an ecard for my brother's birthday today. I clicked on one calle Care2.com, or something like that. It turned out to be an envirowacko site. There was a huge banner ad at the top of the page, saying "Trees Can't Scream, help save our forests"...the first thing that ran through my mind was Oregon. The second was that over 3,000,000 acres have burned so far this year. Nope; trees CAN'T scream...not even when they're on fire, and it was wackos like THAT who gave us the conditions which led up to this hellish wildfire season in the first place. In 'saving' our forests, they've condemned those forests to ash and charcoal.

I didn't use one of their ecards. I did nastygram them, though, saying basically what I just stated above.

According to the NIFC, 122,827 wildfires destroyed 8,422,237 acres during the 2000 wildfire season...the year that I rentered the fight to save our forests from those who want to save our forests.

This year may make 2000 look like a walk in the park.

Did all of you see this?

WorldNetDaily Forced to Evacuate Headquarters

bump to read during lunch

BEWARE*****************************************

Gov Kitzhopper may be in your area today***********************************BEWARE! LOL!

From katu.com

July 29, 2002

Gov. Kitzhaber to tour Cache Mtn. Fire today

SALEM - Governor John Kitzhaber plans to visit the Cache Mountain Fire command center in Sisters this morning. He also plans to fly over the fire, which has caused the evacuation of thousands of residents of the Black Butte Ranch resort area.

A spokesman for the governor says he will fly in a helicopter from Salem directly to the Sisters high school, where fire managers are stationed.

Firefighters ordered the evacuation of four to five-thousand people in the resort area yesterday. Kitzhaber invoked the Conflagration Act last night, which allows firefighters to be sent to other regions when wildfire resources get low.

The lightning-caused fire broke out on Wednesday and had burned about 3,300 acres by midday. Two houses have been confirmed destroyed.

...Come to think of it, Trotskey didn't make much distinction between Socialism, Communism and Marxism either...

"Should America go communist as a result of the difficulties and problems that your capitalist social order is unable to solve, it will discover that communism, far from being an intolerable bureaucratic tyranny and individual regimentation, will be the means of greater individual liberty and shared abundance" -- Leon Trotsky, Liberty, 1935

The above quote came from a chapter called If America Should Go Communist

He sleaks glowingly of a wonderful new "soviet America". I assume he means that the wonderful part will come after the need for dictatorship. Anyhow, it's scary stuff, because kids are studying this stuff in college. And they are IMPLIMENTING it.

See there,all that lumber burned and wasted.Bring back logging,at least the lumber could have been used for something.

ping