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San Francisco Bar Association Prohibits Judges from Participating in Boy Scouts
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 26, 2002 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 07/26/2002 2:36:26 PM PDT by Selmo

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:40:39 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

San Francisco's judges have become the first in the state to cut ties with the Boy Scouts because of the organization's refusal to admit gays and lesbians. A lawyer who sought the change said Thursday she hoped to take it statewide.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: legal; scouts
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41 posted on 07/26/2002 3:49:21 PM PDT by Texas Yellow Rose
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To: Swanks
"She looks like Lucy when she drank too much cough syrup doing 'takes' on her commercial..."

You mean the "Vitametavegamin"(sp?)Girl". I see your point and agree.

42 posted on 07/26/2002 3:50:21 PM PDT by fineright
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To: Looking for Diogenes
FYI, here is the SF Bar Association's press release on the matter.
SF Superior Court Adopts Gay/Lesbian Anti-Exclusionary Policy
Posted 6/23/02

The Superior Court of San Francisco has adopted a policy prohibiting its members from activities that may give the appearance of bias based on sexual orientation. Adopting a statement drawn and unanimously approved by the Board of Directors of the Bar Association of San Francisco, the policy provides that judges should not participate as members in a chapter or branch of any organization that invidiously discriminates on the ground of sexual orientation by excluding members on the ground of their sexual orientation, unless the judge's chapter or branch has disavowed that invidiously discriminatory policy.

The policy is as follows: The Judicial Officers of the Superior Court for the County of San Francisco reaffirm their commitment t fairness, impartiality, the dignity of the Court, and the respectful treatment of all who appear before them and agree not to participate as a member of a branch or chapter of any organization that invidiously discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation by excluding members on the ground that their sexual orientation alone renders them "unclean", "immoral" or unfit", unless the chapter or branch to which the Judicial Officer belongs has disavowed that invidiously discriminatory policy.

Under the leadership of the Honorable Ronald Quidachay and the Honorable Donna Hitchens, both of the San Francisco Superior Court, this policy is effective immediately. "It has long been a tradition of the bench of this State, and in particular of the bench of the Superior Court in San Francisco, to respect the rights and dignity of all litigants and counsel who appear before it and to refrain from even the perception or appearance of any type of invidious discrimination, including discrimination based on sexual orientation. The San Francisco bench has always appreciated the diversity of its own members and of the citizens who have occasion to deal with the court system," said Judge Ronald Quidachay, Presiding Judge of the Superior Court of San Francisco. "We are pleased to have the opportunity to reconfirm that commitment."

"The Bar Association was very concerned about some of the language included in lawyers' briefs in Boy Scouts vs. Dale, as well as in subsequent cases, referring to homosexuals as not morally straight and unclean," said Angela Bradstreet, President of the Bar Association. "We are absolutely delighted that the San Francisco Superior Court bench has joined with the Bar Association of San Francisco in taking the lead on this issue of fairness, and has been so receptive to the concerns of litigants, jurors, lawyers, and other members of the San Francisco community involved with the judicial process. We are now approaching other metropolitan bar associations and local courts to ask them to follow the Superior Court's lead in ensuring that there is both perception and actuality of equality and impartiality in our court system for everyone."
SF Bar


43 posted on 07/26/2002 4:00:06 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: nofriendofbills
One more reason to hate lawyers.

Yes, isn't it. The prosecution rests.

44 posted on 07/26/2002 4:15:30 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: stlrocket
MISS SAN FRANCISCO!!!

You're so sick! ;^)

When I was stationed, of and on at the Presidio in the 70's, the place was already weird. Talking with some Old' Timers up there in Baghdad by the Bay, they said it was the same way as long as they could remember.

45 posted on 07/26/2002 4:26:26 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Selmo
The only purpose for Sodom Francisco judges is to ensure that convicted homophiles and pedophiles get probation. The Boy Scouts are better off.
46 posted on 07/26/2002 4:33:48 PM PDT by SSN558
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To: elbucko
Hey Buck! That should read "off and on". Proofread yore stuph.
47 posted on 07/26/2002 4:39:29 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Selmo
So if a judge becomes a Boy Scout Leader, he can be dis-barred? I would like to see that one go to court.
48 posted on 07/26/2002 4:41:24 PM PDT by maximus@Nashville
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To: Looking for Diogenes
SF Superior Court Adopts Gay/Lesbian Anti-Exclusionary Policy

Read as

SF Superior Court Mandates Exclusive Gay/Lesbian Inclusionary Policy


49 posted on 07/26/2002 5:00:07 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: LouD
Catholicism, and a number of other religions, disapproves of homosexuality. Do they intend to make belonging to a specific religion a disqualifier, as well?

I had the same question.

50 posted on 07/26/2002 5:02:57 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Jhoffa_
I'm afraid you are right. This is an unconstitutional imposition on the judges who might want to be involved with Scouts.

This case has done one thing - it has finally let me see the extent of the gay's prejudice. They have made me prejudiced. I will not tolerate their presence, trade, emply, or knowlingly communicate with them.

That is a lot to say from a laissez fiare free trader and generally liberal (in the old sense - free to do what you wanted as long as you didn't harm others) person.

They win. Now I'm biased. I hate their agenda, and by extension, hate them. I do not want them near my boys - they do not have the right to be near my boys.

Bring it on flamers - tell me why you should have access to children of what to you are the opposite sex. I've had enough of it.

51 posted on 07/26/2002 5:07:00 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: aristeides
Savage covered it today. He's still going strong.

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52 posted on 07/26/2002 5:08:25 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: Selmo
"In practice, the policy prohibits the judges from taking part in the Boy Scouts".

P>P Oh, really? I thought we live in the United States of America. Freedom of choice, etc. They are determined to destroy what's great about America and I consider the Boy Scouts one of our finest organizations. This may backfire, as I know quite a few gay people I consider friends - never had a problem before this. Now I'm beginning to wonder. If push comes to shove, I'll take the Boy Scouts.
53 posted on 07/26/2002 6:33:12 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: No More Gore Anymore

That summarizes my position on the matter.

I was okay with "tolerance" You know, not bashing gays and making snide remarks and stuff like that.. Fine.

But their militant, in your face manner of telling me what I should and will think about their behavior has had the same effect on me as it has on you.

Sure, I am biased.. I don't even want to debate the matter.

Far as I am concerned they settled it with their attacks on the majority.

54 posted on 07/26/2002 6:37:15 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: stlrocket
No wonder she's not married!
55 posted on 07/26/2002 6:40:22 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Jhoffa_
They win. Now I'm biased. I hate their agenda, and by extension, hate them. I do not want them near my boys - they do not have the right to be near my boys.

That summarizes my position on the matter.

Mine too. I was always live and let live until they made a huge stink in our town to have an active homosexual guy become an assistant scoutmaster in my son's troop. They turned a lot of parents against them. They're crazy. There's no way they're getting anywhere my sons either.

56 posted on 07/26/2002 7:02:05 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
Yeah, I think attempting to tell parents what's what with regard to what their children will learn and who will accompany them on camping trips pretty much closed the tap on "tolerance"

Now it's something more akin to the cold war..
57 posted on 07/26/2002 7:05:40 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Selmo
In response to a resolution in January from the local bar association, San Francisco Superior Court judges and commissioners adopted a policy July 11 saying they would not take part in any organization that "discriminates on the basis of sexual orientation by excluding members on the grounds that their sexual orientation renders them 'unclean,' 'immoral' or 'unfit.' "

So I guess the judges can't be associated with the US military, or the Catholic Church?
58 posted on 07/26/2002 7:06:22 PM PDT by Kozak
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To: Selmo
Liberals had to cut ties as there is no defecate in the street or what to do if i get aids merit badge.

They simply cannot relate.

59 posted on 07/26/2002 7:08:36 PM PDT by Kay Soze
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To: Kozak
So I guess the judges can't be associated with the US military, or the Catholic Church?

Of course, they aren't consistent (because to be so would be ludicrous, as you point out). They're just out to demoralize and destroy the Boy Scouts. But the joke's on them. Boy Scouts is growing rapidly in many areas of the country now. Here in my New Jersey town, one troop has doubled in size in the last year, and we've added a fourth troop in the town. Parents are looking for someplace to help raise their sons with traditional moral values, with a belief in God and with respect for family, flag and self. Boy Scouts for many is becoming an island in a sea of insanity.

60 posted on 07/26/2002 7:10:12 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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