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An Oklahoma Mystery New hints of links between Timothy McVeigh and Middle Eastern terrorists
L.A. Weekly ^ | JULY 19 - 25, 2002 | Jim Crogan

Posted on 07/19/2002 10:28:09 PM PDT by glorygirl

EITHER CONVICTED OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBERS Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were part of a conspiracy, possibly involving Middle Eastern and Filipino connections, or they were not. Seven years later, the authorities have still not fully examined this question.

But taking on this issue would seem to fit the mission of the House and Senate Intelligence committees, which are jointly investigating intelligence failures by the FBI and CIA before 9/11. Chaired by two Floridians -- Republican Representative Porter Goss and Democratic Senator Bob Graham -- the Committees' began their closed-door work by focusing on two areas: U.S. investigations of terrorism since the CIA established a counterterrorism unit in 1986 and Osama bin Laden's role in sponsoring international terrorism since the mid-1990s.

Back in 1995, several Congressional Committees did search for international ties to the Oklahoma City attack, but came up empty, explained former Representative Bill McCollum in an interview. Still, the reports issued by the House Republican Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, which McCollum chaired until 1995, were quite prescient.

"The task force was on the mark when it came to their warnings about the emerging threat of Middle Eastern terrorism," McCollum said. "I can tell you that we were very concerned about the possibility of a Middle East connection to Oklahoma City. But we never found any evidence there was one."

McCollum, however, said he never heard of the reporting done by TV journalist Jayna Davis, which connected McVeigh and Nichols with Middle Eastern figures in Oklahoma City and the Philippines. Nor did he know of Davis' ongoing communications with Yossef Bodansky, executive director of the Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare. "Seffy [Bodansky] never told me anything about that," he said. "This is all news to me."

After the bombing, Bodansky marshaled his intelligence sources and began an investigation. He found some of the same Middle Eastern connections uncovered by reporter Davis. "The stories you are telling fit very closely with the stories I have," he told Davis, in a taped conversation on April 24, 1996.

In the tape, Davis asks if the names are tied to the bombing. And Bodansky responds, "I didn't get them because I am trying to run a private, one-man census of the Oklahoma City area."

The government also turned up experts who believed they found possible evidence of a Middle Eastern signature on the bombing. In 1997, Stephen Jones, lead attorney for McVeigh, filed a motion claiming the defense team had acquired a one-page summary of a government report by two unnamed Israeli experts who examined the Murrah Building. "Their conclusion was the Oklahoma City bombing bore the indisputable earmark of Middle Eastern terrorists," said Jones in an interview.

The men were eventually identified as Dorom Bergerbest-Eliom, chief of security for the Israeli Embassy in Washington, D.C., and Yakov (or Yaskov) Yerushalmi, a civil engineer and Israeli government consultant. Attorney Jones filed a court motion complaining to federal Judge Richard Matsch that the government had wrongly denied the document to McVeigh's defense team.

"We never did get the full report," Jones continued. "Judge Matsch reminded the prosecutors they had a legal obligation to turn over any exculpatory material to the defense. However, the judge left it to the Justice Department to decide what was exculpatory."

DAVIS, THE FORMER TV REPORTER FOR KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City, began investigating the bombing the day after the attack. In seven years, she's accumulated 26 affidavits and more than 100 hours of taped interviews. In particular, she zeroed in on a group of Iraqis who worked for Samir Khalil, a Palestinian-born businessman and owner of a property-management company in Oklahoma City. Davis also did pieces on John Doe No. 2, the mysterious figure identified in initial police bulletins as having been seen fleeing the federal building after the bombing. The FBI later announced that John Doe No. 2 never existed.

One of the Iraqis, Hussain Alhussaini, later came forward and identified himself as the person being fingered in Davis' television reports as John Doe No. 2. He sued the reporter for defamation. A federal judge dismissed the suit; Alhussaini has appealed. (See: Heartland Conspiracy, published in the L.A. Weekly, Sept. 28-Oct. 4, 2001.)

The TV reporter, who has since quit the station, also interviewed Lana Padilla, Nichols' first wife. She told Davis that McVeigh had given her ex-husband thousands of dollars and paid for his first trip to the Philippines. Nichols, who is now awaiting trial in Oklahoma City on state murder charges, traveled extensively to the islands and eventually married a Filipino woman. Padilla has now been subpoenaed as a prosecution witness in Nichols' state case.

Davis also turned up material that appeared to connect Nichols to Ramzi Yousef and Abdul Hakim Murad. Yousef, the convicted mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, is now serving a life sentence in federal prison. He also had hatched unrealized plans to blow up 12 airliners and to assassinate Pope John Paul II.

Murad, a confederate of Yousef, is also in federal custody. He told Philippine police about a plot to hijack an airliner and crash it into CIA headquarters. Murad also claimed in 1996 that a large number of Middle Eastern men were being trained at U.S. flight schools in connection with these plots. This information was passed on to the FBI. What the agency did with it is unknown.

Court documents, related to this alleged Filipino connection, were attached to a motion filed by McVeigh's defense team in 1996. One is an FBI memo detailing a conversation between Murad and a U.S. prison guard after the Oklahoma City bombing. Murad told his jailer that the Filipino Liberation Army was responsible for that attack. The memo also cites a note Murad gave his guard, reiterating this claim.

Another exhibit from the defense motion is an affidavit filed by Edwin Angeles, a founder of Abu Sayyaf, a Filipino terrorist group. Angeles, who was assassinated by former comrades, wrote in 1996 that he was at a 1991 meeting in Davao City, attended by Yousef, Murad and Nichols, at which, they discussed "bombing activities, providing firearms and ammo" to terrorists and "training in bomb making and handling" of explosives. Nichols, he claimed, was introduced to him as "the farmer."

In February 1995 -- months before the Oklahoma City blast -- the House Task Force on Terrorism issued a warning that Middle Eastern Islamists, under the leadership of Iran, were preparing a series of terrorist attacks against the U.S. An update, issued in March 1995 -- just a month before the bombing -- stated the target list had shifted from Washington, D.C., to government installations and buildings in America's heartland. The task force distributed these alerts to federal intelligence and law-enforcement agencies. In 1996, terrorism-task-force director Bodansky gave a copy of the original warning and update to Davis. Reportedly Bodansky, recently passed on Davis' affidavits and taped interviews to the U.S. House Government Reform Committee, about which he refuses to comment. "I work for the government, and I can't talk about Oklahoma City," he said.

IN THE NINE MONTHS SINCE THE Weekly first published details of Davis' story, new information has emerged that raises more questions about the FBI's investigation into the bombing:

On April 19, 1995 -- immediately after the bombing -- the FBI sent an urgent request to the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency requesting 10 Arabic linguists to help in its Oklahoma City bombing investigation. Linguists, serving on a 30-day loan, would not be permitted to monitor electronic surveillance.

After McVeigh's arrest, the FBI was contacted by the Defense Department to see if they still needed the linguists. According to an April 22, 1995 memo from the Department of the Army, an FBI agent said the linguists were being used to "monitor wiretaps of radical fundamentalist Islamists to protect the President from possible attack" during his upcoming appearance at an Oklahoma City memorial service.

On August 2, 1995, Federal Protective Services special agent Thomas Williams sent a memo to his branch chief, John Crowe, detailing his communication with terrorism task-force director Yossef Bodansky. In it, he states Bodansky told him that a lot of names that came up in NBC reports (by TV journalist Jayna Davis) overlapped with the names of suspects Bodansky had compiled.

In a taped conversation between Bodansky and Davis on May 18, 1996, Bodansky tells the reporter that by mid-April, intelligence information suggested that government buildings had been specifically targeted. He said the intelligence had been accumulated over 18 months. He also said he had gotten another warning from Israeli intelligence, a week before the bombing, that an attack would be launched in America's heartland.

Also on May 18, Bodansky faxed two notes to Davis in which he provides more details about the task force's intelligence analysis. Bodansky writes that after the bombing, it was determined that Oklahoma City had been "on the list of potential targets." The second note states that "The initial forensic investigation of the explosion in Oklahoma suggested strong similarities to bombing techniques used by Iran-sponsored Islamist terrorists, including the car bomb that destroyed [a] building in Buenos Aires on 18 July 1994."

An undated intelligence report by Bodansky discusses alleged terrorist training inside the U.S. that included some "Lilly Whites," people whose background would not tie them to terrorism. Bodansky states the training was ordered by Iran and conducted by Hamas operatives. His intelligence sources told him that the training occurred at a camp near Chicago. The first camp was allegedly held in 1990 and included about 25 trainees, who used code names. One group, he states, was reportedly given instructions on building car bombs from available materials. The second training occurred in 1993. It was specifically for Lilly Whites. They also used code names and were given state-of-the-art car-bomb training. Bodansky's sources also report that at least two of the 1993 participants came from Oklahoma City.

During a legal dispute with her former employer Bodansky wrote Davis a letter of support stating, "Having studied the material provided by Ms. Davis very closely, I consider it most sensitive, reliable and important evidence for the Task Force investigation." Bodansky also wrote, "Having carefully studied these tapes, as well as other work of Ms. Davis, I'm convinced that the witnesses she had interviewed provide credible testimony."

During a civil suit for defamation against Davis and KFOR-TV, Hussain Alhussaini, a former Iraqi soldier, submitted psychiatric reports from 1997, in which he states that he worked for a while at Boston's Logan Airport (where two of the planes were hijacked on September 11). Alhussaini first told his psychiatrist that he quit his airport job because "If anything happens there, I will be a suspect." Then he later contradicts himself, saying that he wants to look for another job "because he feels unsafe in the environment he works in, in the airport, given the recent events involving his being previously suspected of involvement in the Oklahoma bombing." In a 1998 deposition, Alhussaini states he is still working at the airport and has fears of losing his job. Alhussaini's specific job was never identified. Alhussaini still appears to be living in Massachusetts. The Massachusetts Port Authority, which oversees Logan's operations, declined comment on Alhussaini's current work status or his airport duties.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: alamoudi; billmccollum; bodansky; fredthompson; murad; okcbombing
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To: glorygirl
BOMBERS Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were part of a conspiracy, possibly involving Middle Eastern and Filipino connections, or

What about talk radio

21 posted on 07/20/2002 12:28:39 AM PDT by Fast 1975
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To: glorygirl; OKCSubmariner; aristeides; Fred Mertz; EBUCK
Uh, oh!

Scandal, scandal!

I found a religous site that says Bodansky was an Iraeli arms dealer in the 80's,that Perl was his mentor,and Rep. Rohrabacher resigned as co-chair of the committee,after Bodansky report.(not sure which one)Site also says McCollum suppressed reports and made them confidential.

Is any of this true?

Will I ever find whole complete text from Bodansky re:Murrah????????
22 posted on 07/20/2002 1:22:23 AM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: glorygirl
Bumpus
23 posted on 07/20/2002 2:58:14 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: glorygirl
This will go out in the morning email to the usual suspects... and into the next update of those "Tales from the Dark Underbelly of the Beast."

In the very first of that series, a FReeper made a very acute observation- he said it was "UnderNews"-- stuff "everybody knew about, but nobody would talk about..."

24 posted on 07/20/2002 3:20:08 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: glorygirl
Thanks for the ping. TPT.....
25 posted on 07/20/2002 3:59:38 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: DB
Flight 800 and Flight 587 in NYC.

Sac

26 posted on 07/20/2002 5:13:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: glorygirl
Index bump.
27 posted on 07/20/2002 6:15:49 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: glorygirl
Great article--thank you for the ping. I appreciate being included on your OKC list.

Bump for truth and justice in OKC.

28 posted on 07/20/2002 6:53:41 AM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: glorygirl
An undated intelligence report by Bodansky discusses alleged terrorist training inside the U.S. that included some "Lilly Whites," people whose background would not tie them to terrorism. Bodansky states the training was ordered by Iran and conducted by Hamas operatives. His intelligence sources told him that the training occurred at a camp near Chicago. The first camp was allegedly held in 1990 and included about 25 trainees, who used code names. One group, he states, was reportedly given instructions on building car bombs from available materials. The second training occurred in 1993. It was specifically for Lilly Whites. They also used code names and were given state-of-the-art car-bomb training. Bodansky's sources also report that at least two of the 1993 participants came from Oklahoma City.

At or near the US HAMAS front headquarters shared with MAYA, the Moslem-American Youth Association at Plainfield, Indiana, perhaps? The Plainfield/Indianapolis area is about a 3-hour drive to Chicago:


29 posted on 07/20/2002 7:26:15 AM PDT by archy
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To: glorygirl; honway; rdavis84; OKCSubmariner; Fred Mertz; MizSterious
Padilla has now been subpoenaed as a prosecution witness in Nichols' state case.

this is an interesting twist. why would the prosection subpoenea padilla?

if the prosecution puts lana padilla on the stand and she testifies that nichols was indeed involved in planning/bomb making sessions in the phillipines, she blows the lone bomber theory and sets up a reversal on appeal of terry's federal conviction?

I doubt okie state prosecutors really want to open this can of worms.

30 posted on 07/20/2002 8:19:55 AM PDT by thinden
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To: Fred Mertz
I get the impression from this article that Jayna Davis is trying to put the heat on Bodansky...

looks that way to me, too. seems she felt the need to tape a lot of conversations with bodansky for some reason?

31 posted on 07/20/2002 8:22:06 AM PDT by thinden
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In a 1998 deposition, Alhussaini states he is still working at the airport and has fears of losing his job. Alhussaini's specific job was never identified. Alhussaini still appears to be living in Massachusetts.

was HAH still working at logan on 9/11? makes it look like a 9/11 type attack was in the works for several years?

32 posted on 07/20/2002 8:27:49 AM PDT by thinden
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One of the Iraqis, Hussain Alhussaini, later came forward and identified himself as the person being fingered in Davis' television reports as John Doe No. 2.

well, there you have it from the horses mouth. any chance we can get those pix of HAH/JD2 posted on this thread?

33 posted on 07/20/2002 8:31:20 AM PDT by thinden
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To: glorygirl
"I work for the government, and I can't talk about Oklahoma City," he said.

Well that about sums it up, doesn't it ?

34 posted on 07/20/2002 11:23:00 AM PDT by lawdog
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To: glorygirl; Fred Mertz; ladyinred; the crow; Shermy; anymouse; okie01; Travis McGee; Alamo-Girl
On April 19, 1995 -- immediately after the bombing -- the FBI sent an urgent request to the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency requesting 10 Arabic linguists to help in its Oklahoma City bombing investigation. Linguists, serving on a 30-day loan, would not be permitted to monitor electronic surveillance.

After McVeigh's arrest, the FBI was contacted by the Defense Department to see if they still needed the linguists. According to an April 22, 1995 memo from the Department of the Army, an FBI agent said the linguists were being used to "monitor wiretaps of radical fundamentalist Islamists to protect the President from possible attack" during his upcoming appearance at an Oklahoma City memorial service.

What a Pig our former President Bill Clinton is.  I want to know if those 10 Army Arabic linguists were kept for the full 30 days, or if they were sent back to their normal assignments once they were used to protect King William Jefferson Clinton's pasty-white thighs from being attacked by the Middle Eastern terrorists -- the same Middle Eastern terrorists that he knew at the time were responsible for the OKC slaughter.

Just stop and think about that one for a moment and let it sink in. 

35 posted on 07/20/2002 11:40:56 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: glorygirl
The Massachusetts Port Authority, which oversees Logan's operations, declined comment on Alhussaini's current work status or his airport duties.

Massport at the very least should be disbanded, at the most criminally prosecuted...oh I forgot, they own the state police!

36 posted on 07/20/2002 11:47:54 AM PDT by JPJones
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To: Nita Nupress
We gots your basic mudrer charges here Nita!
37 posted on 07/20/2002 12:24:57 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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To: JPJones
You could ask "Securior", the British company that bought "Argenbright" the American company that did the screening and other jobs at Logan.
38 posted on 07/20/2002 12:29:16 PM PDT by Betty Jo
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Not only that, he was able to really take advantage of the situation and successfully blame it on "right-wing radio"...
39 posted on 07/20/2002 12:35:05 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: glorygirl
Not that I am close-minded about a ME connection, but following most Terrorism events, you generally have at least one group, if not an abundance, willing/wanting to take credit. The point of terrorism is terror and making a case for your cause.

Unless this was a "practice run" or a test of effectiveness before the "big one" I don't yet see the Islamists directing this event.

That does not, however, mean that they didn't have a hand in the training, and our Okie boys went off half-cocked with their own agenda, spoiling the Islamists fun and timing.

If we start pointing fingers at the terrorist trainers (not that they shouldnt be held accountable and tracked down) rather than the perpe"traitors", we can probably trace much of this back ultimately to our Communist 'friends'.

40 posted on 07/20/2002 12:46:44 PM PDT by Optimist
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