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Israel Arrests Attackers' Relatives
Associated Press | 07/19/02 | By MARK LAVIE,

Posted on 07/19/2002 7:54:33 AM PDT by Jersey Kid

Israel Arrests Attackers' Relatives Fri Jul 19, 9:23 AM ET

JERUSALEM (AP) - Israeli soldiers arrested 16 relatives of two Palestinians suspected in bloody terror attacks this week, and in what would be a new policy, officials Friday were considering expelling some of the men to the Gaza Strip ( news - web sites).

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Israel Radio said expulsion of the fathers and brothers reflect new harsh measures the Israeli government is considering to deter potential attackers. Israeli soldiers also destroyed the family homes of the two suspected Palestinian militants.

In a statement, the militant group Hamas threatened to launch "unique martyrdom operations," if the deportations are carried out, a reference to suicide attacks.

The two attacks, a bus ambush in the West Bank and a double suicide bombing in Tel Aviv, were the first fatal strikes against Israeli civilians since Israeli forces moved into seven of the eight main Palestinian towns and cities in the West Bank on June 20, after back-to-back suicide bombings in Jerusalem.

A woman injured in the bus ambush near an Israeli settlement in the West Bank on Tuesday, Yocheved Ben-Hanan, 21, died in Tel Aviv hospital Thursday, police said, bringing the death toll to nine. Three bystanders, including two foreign workers, were killed in the double suicide bombing in Tel Aviv on Wednesday.

A new group affiliated with Yasser Arafat ( news - web sites)'s Fatah ( news - web sites) movement called Al-Nazir, "the warning" in Arabic, claimed responsibility for the Tel Aviv bombing, identifying the bombers as Mohammed Attala, 18, and Ibrahim Najie, 19, from the Balata refugee camp, next to Nablus.

Abdel Nasser Najie, a relative, said Ibrahim Najie "used to work in Israel and knew Israel very well." He said Najie left for Israel several days ago, and the family lost contact with him. He said if relatives had known he was going to carry out a suicide attack, "we would have stopped him."

Overnight, Israeli forces moved into the Askar refugee camp and the nearby village of Tel, near Nablus, the military and residents said.

In Tel, soldiers destroyed the house of Nasser Aseida, 26, a leader of the Hamas military wing who was suspected of organizing the bus ambush. Soldiers arrested his father and four brothers, and detained relatives of two other wanted Hamas leaders, who are in hiding, like Aseida.

In a similar operation in the Askar refugee camp, soldiers destroyed the house of a leader of the Fatah-linked Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades militia, Ali Ajouri, 23, badly damaging several nearby houses, residents said. Soldiers arrested Ajouri's father and two brothers, they said. Ajouri was not captured.

Altogether, the Israelis detained 16 men, Palestinians said. In a statement, the military said the operation was "part of the war against the terrorist infrastructure."

The Israel military has long destroyed the family homes of suicide bombers in an attempt to dissuade attackers. Expelling militants' relatives from the West Bank to Gaza would be a new step. The Gaza Strip, which has not been a source of suicide bombers in the past two years, is easier to seal off from Israel than the West Bank.

A senior Israeli official said the government was awaiting final recommendations from Attorney General Elyakim Rubinstein — expected within a few days — on whether deporting the 16 men to Gaza was legal.

If Rubinstein approves and the Cabinet determines deportations would be an effective deterrent, the government would proceed, the official said on condition of anonymity.

Rubinstein made an initial recommendation that there were legal grounds for "selective deportation to Gaza" for those people "directly involved in supporting" the militants, the official added.

Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, a veteran peace campaigner who supports talks with the Palestinians, said he would support the new measures if they win legal approval.

Palestinian Cabinet Minister Saeb Erekat denounced the deportation idea as a war crime and violation of the fourth Geneva Convention, which governs the treatment of civilians in war zones.

"When nations in the year 2002 decide on collective punishment, and decide to deport (families) from one place to another, this is a war crime, and we will pursue it as such," he said.

Ranya Ajouri, a relative of Ali, said Israeli soldiers ordered the families out of the three-story house without giving them a chance to put on clothes or shoes. Told about the possibility that the men would be sent to Gaza, she said, "We have no relation to Ali's activities. Everyone should be responsible for his own behavior."

While the army did not say how many people were detained in connection with the attacks, it said it had arrested 16 militants in sweeps of other villages across the West Bank on Friday for alleged "terrorist activities."

Palestinian officials say they are powerless to assume control because Israeli forces have imposed curfews in the main areas, preventing Palestinian security from operating.

On Friday, the Israeli military said it was lifting curfews in the towns of Qalqiliya and Tulkarem "until further notice," and in Jenin and Hebron during the day Friday. The Israelis have said they would ease restrictions in the Palestinian towns they control if calm is maintained.

Questions about the effectiveness of Israel's reoccupation of West Bank population centers in stopping terror attacks have begun to emerge after the two attacks in Israel this week.


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Way to go Israel. Get them and send them packing
1 posted on 07/19/2002 7:54:33 AM PDT by Jersey Kid
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To: Jersey Kid
Sounds good to me
2 posted on 07/19/2002 8:04:49 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: Jersey Kid
It is about time and the least Israel should do.
3 posted on 07/19/2002 8:08:49 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Jersey Kid
Aw, they're gonna have to celebrate in Gaza. Waaaaaaaa, waaaa, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. They should have to do it in Syria or Iraq.
4 posted on 07/19/2002 8:25:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Jersey Kid
I'll tell you what folks, if this keeps up I'd make it a policy to drop a major bomb in the household of the family shortly after the attacks. Just let it be known that home is going to cease to exist. If it's occupied all the better. Supporting this activity is every bit as bad as doing it yourself.
5 posted on 07/19/2002 8:27:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Jersey Kid
Hit the road Jack Abdul and don't you come back no more no more
6 posted on 07/19/2002 8:34:02 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Jersey Kid
It's not the way to go at all. It's what we who know about governments call a "slippery slope". Israel knows what it needs to do, and it's not doing it. It needs to go after the senior Palestinian leadership and go after them hard. This piddling around, going after small (non-combatant) fish, isn't going to stop terrorism, not by a long shot. But it will push Israel a little further to the "barbarian" end of the spectrum, like the people they're trying to fight.
8 posted on 07/19/2002 8:55:44 AM PDT by inquest
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It's what we who know about governments call a "slippery slope"

War is a slippery slope. And the Pali's keep pushing people into it, what are we supposed to do?

Do you think a few people on the Allied side didn't break a few "rules" trying to deter the enemy? Get real.

9 posted on 07/19/2002 9:02:12 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: inquest
This piddling around, going after small (non-combatant) fish, isn't going to stop terrorism, not by a long shot.

I do agree here. But you can't go and attack a nation until you have support for the action. I think no matter what they do people will complain.

10 posted on 07/19/2002 9:03:38 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: inquest
I should say I agree to an extent. But how do you distinguish anymore? Women and children strapping bombs to themselves, with the blessing of the men and other leaders or at least with them condoning it?

We know that these nutcases won't stop at any self destructive action to make their point. If we say we won' shoot X kind of people, they WILL USE them as shields.
11 posted on 07/19/2002 9:07:28 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: inquest
It's not the way to go at all. It's what we who know about governments call a "slippery slope".

The slippery slope is greased with the blood of innocent Israeli civilians.

Forcibly exiling civilians is inhumane, but sure beats blowing them up. Hamas and the Pali's whining about it means the Israeli's are on the right track.

12 posted on 07/19/2002 9:30:56 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Terriergal
Do you think a few people on the Allied side didn't break a few "rules" trying to deter the enemy? Get real.

I wasn't demanding an anal attachment to every rule of "civilized" warfare. But when a government makes an official policy out of killing non-combatants (however distasteful these people are) while at the same time refusing to strike where it would get them the most mileage, it's a prescription for perpetual misery.

But you can't go and attack a nation until you have support for the action. I think no matter what they do people will complain.

Support from whom? It's true that Washington might pull some funding if Israel goes after Arafat & Co., but seriously, how is all that funding really helping Israeli security? I suspect that what it really helps is Israeli bureaucracy, which is why they're so attached to it. Taking out the leadership of Fatah, Hamas, IJLP, PFLP, etc., is not something I think would create much of a financial burden.

And you're right, people will complain no matter what, so they might as well do the right thing to get this war over with as quickly as possible.

If we say we won' shoot X kind of people, they WILL USE them as shields.

I'm not doubting that, and I'm not denying that soldiers out in the field may have to make some unfortunate decisions in order to defend themselves, but this article is about punishment, not simple defense against potential attackers.

13 posted on 07/19/2002 9:38:25 AM PDT by inquest
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Forcibly exiling civilians is inhumane, but sure beats blowing them up.

What beats both is not going after civilians at all, but after the leadership, as I said. Israel has it exactly backwards right now.

14 posted on 07/19/2002 9:42:55 AM PDT by inquest
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To: Terriergal
You keep saying WE, as in "what are WE supposed to do?" and
"If WE say WE won't shoot X kind of people..." Are YOU part of the group that is making these decisions to kill? Is the WE that you put yourself and the rest of us in the US orIsrael? If it's the US then please advise me when WE went to war with the Palis, and when WE should say to the world that WE will shoot non-combatants as a policy.
15 posted on 07/19/2002 9:49:26 AM PDT by wtc911
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You know what I mean by "we" - those that don't apologize for Israel.
16 posted on 07/19/2002 10:16:47 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: wtc911
Apparently you don't have a grasp of how to speak or discuss something hypothetically.
17 posted on 07/19/2002 10:17:43 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: wtc911
Also the article didn't say anything about shooting non combatants.
18 posted on 07/19/2002 10:18:21 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: inquest
Did the article say "killing non combatants"? No I thought it was about exiling related noncombatants.
19 posted on 07/19/2002 10:19:17 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: inquest; wtc911
In contrast, Hamas and Al Qaeda DO have a policy of attacking and KILLING non combatants.
20 posted on 07/19/2002 10:19:59 AM PDT by Terriergal
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