Nazism is Left-Wing?

chuckmorse.com ^ | July 2, 2002 | Chuck Morse

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

The other old left-wing canard Jensen tossed out during the interview was that America was the most militarily oriented society in history.

Maybe that's true, if those in the dustbin of history don't count. But if they do, there is no example of a Communist country that spent less of its GDP on arms than the U.S. 'Course some of them were pretty good at cooking the books to disguise that fact, but . . .

[alex]

It is much easier than that - left simply calls 'right-wing' everybody it does not like, e.g. term 'right-wing communists' was widely used to describe cituation in Eastern Europe in the early 90s.

[Dog Gone]

Excellent points.

The Chinese Communists are no longer communists at all. They are fascists.

[polemikos]

the fascist system ... differs with communism in that communism abolishes the corporation outright.

And it is a difference without meaning, I believe.
Fascism, socialism, and communism are interchangeable at the flick of the leader's pen.

[polemikos]

My point in post 5 exactly.

[Non-Sequitur]

Trying to classify as liberal or conservative a political system that defies categorization has to rank up there as one of the truly dumb arguments of the week. I suppose by Morse's definition anarchists are the ultimate conservatives since they believe in the least government?

[Tailgunner Joe]

Your screen name is well-deserved.

[Strider]

I suppose by Morse's definition anarchists are the ultimate conservatives since they believe in the least government?

I would say that anarchists represent the extreme right not the ultimate conservative.

Communism, Facism, Socialism, these are at the extreme left.

[polemikos]

That's a non-sequitur, Non-Sequitur.

[Non-Sequitur]

Something makes me think that yours is, too.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Thank You. Unlike you, I can take that as a compliment.

[Victor]

FL Hayek in his book "The Road to Serfdom" comes to the simple conclusion that Communism evolves into Fascism once the idealistic Marxists realize the impossibility of their utopian dream.

The Fascists are at least a little more intellectually honest. They realize from the start that some folks are "a little more equal" than others....and proceed from there.

[Darth Reagan]

It is much easier than that - left simply calls 'right-wing' everybody it does not like, e.g. term 'right-wing communists' was widely used to describe cituation in Eastern Europe in the early 90s.

And now that the press seems to understand that Communists are "left-wing," they don't use a "wing" label, but merely call them "conservatives."

[Tailgunner Joe]

It should be pointed out that the 'utopian dream' of the Marxists is in fact, Anarchy. They envision a world without nations, religions, or money. Of course this will only happen after the 'withering away' of the 'proletarian dictatorship', once its destructive power is no longer needed.

So, no, anarchists are not right wing. They are left wing. Lawlessness is always left wing. Liberal is a synonym of licentious.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Fascist regimes granted monopoly control over specific areas of industry...

Like health care and "controlled substances," for instance.

There is a direct correlation between spiraling drug costs and the monopolies granted to drug manufacturers by the controlled substance laws, but the rabid drug warriors will say it is a small price to pay.

[Lee_Atwater]

That line stood out as especially silly. Jensen should first consider Prussia. The United States are hardly militaristic compared to Prussia.

[Dog Gone]

I have not read "The Road to Serfdom", but I think I should. Margaret Thatcher credits it with changing her thinking about economies, and Hayek's book eventually won out over Keynesian economics.

[BenLurkin]

Morse makes an important point about how the Nazis rolled major corporations into government client entities. What is scary is that this same kind of goverment/corporate "partnering" is a included feature in the growth of big government in America. The expanding cenrtral goverment is gaining more and more control over what used to be free enterprise through increasing use of forded incentives and manipulative regulations.

[dead]

Exactly. I remember reading in the NY Times about how the "liberal" forces of reform in the USSR were battling to wrest power from the "conservatives" who sought to keep the power in the hands of the government.

I thought maybe I was holding the paper upside-down.