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Danger In San Antonio Area~!
070402 | Sams Bees

Posted on 07/04/2002 10:05:30 PM PDT by SamBees

Danger!

No alerts have been issued concerning the Canyon Lake dam near San Antonio, but much closer to New Braunfels Texas.

The water level in Canyone Lake is so high, it has begun to enter the spillway, and even is now coming over the earthen dam which could break due to erosion of the soil as water passes over it.

Never in the history of this lake has water come over the spillway, and most certainly, it has never reached 944 feet above sea level and then over the dam itself.

So, if you live along the Guadelupe river south of Canyone Lake, or you know someone who does, warn them that water is now coming over the dam which is only made of earth, and above the damn is nearly 2 million foot acres of water!

For some reason, the media is not talking about the danger of the dam being washed away, but as more rains pour down north of Canyon lake, its body of water will greatly increase, and right now, the lake is almost 2 times its normal size!

If you live near Canyon lake, south of the dam, you could be in extreme danger!

Please alert anyone you know in the area of the danger!

Currently, rain continues to come down at high levels north of the lake and San Antonio area. If the Canyon Lake dam gives way due to erosion, tens of thousands could perish.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canyonlake; dam; newbraunfels; sanantonio; water
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1 posted on 07/04/2002 10:05:30 PM PDT by SamBees
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To: SamBees
Here is hoping for the best for you guys in the Hill Country. Here in Corpus we only got 3 inches from this system and that was really the first good widespread rain we have had sine last Novemeber. It was too late for the Cotton farmes, but all of this water coming down the Nueces, Atacosa, and Frio rivers will fill up our two reservoirs for the first time in a very long time.
2 posted on 07/04/2002 10:15:41 PM PDT by The South Texan
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To: SamBees
Stay safe, bttt.
3 posted on 07/04/2002 10:18:51 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Thanks! I am a bit worried about the area, and the fact that the designers of the dam never thought we'd have such a huge amount of rain that the spillway could not handle it.

Most of us have seen dams made of earth break up. News programs have shown lots of them, but this is no common dam, it is absolutely huge, and the amount of water behind it is as well.

Rains continue, and the spillway is producing 5000 cubic feet per second into the Guadelupe river. The dam doors can open wide and produce another 5000, but that will flood everything south of the dam. The Army Corp of Engineers is in control, but they know there are many campers and families south of the dam playing in the river, so they are trying to hold back until tomorrow sometime. At that point, they will begin to open the gates and the 5000 cfs will become 6500, then 8500, then 10,000 cubic feet per second.

Plus, who knows how much will be coming over the top of the dam. Oh man, this is such a dangerous situation.

4 posted on 07/04/2002 10:27:46 PM PDT by SamBees
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To: SamBees
I'll try to keep this bumped until I retire for the evening in a few.
5 posted on 07/04/2002 10:54:11 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
BUMP
6 posted on 07/04/2002 10:59:20 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: SamBees
Thanks for posting this. All day they were saying that Castroville needn't evacuate. Then I notice tonite at 10pm, they decided to evacuate.
This is so much more water damage than 98-and the rain just keeps popping up.
I have friends near Gruene on the Guadalupe who were okay in 98, and now I'm wondering if they've had to evacuate. They're on Gruene River Drive. Any news of Gruene appreciated.
7 posted on 07/04/2002 11:06:55 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: sockmonkey
the situation is not good more and more heavy rain moving in
8 posted on 07/04/2002 11:14:35 PM PDT by newsperson999
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To: SamBees
bttt night..
9 posted on 07/04/2002 11:15:55 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: newsperson999
It's raining (again) in Kerrville. Looks like another long night of waiting and watching for the water to come back in.
I think I should just set my alarm for 4 AM-that seems to be the time when it starts coming in under the baseboards at my house.
10 posted on 07/04/2002 11:19:26 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: MissAmericanPie
BUMP
11 posted on 07/04/2002 11:19:30 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: MissAmericanPie
2 inches of rain has fallen last few hours upstream of the damn and more heavy rain is heading for the dam itself
12 posted on 07/04/2002 11:19:35 PM PDT by newsperson999
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To: sockmonkey
Canyon is 100 feet deep, or thereabouts at normal lake levels. Now, its is 30 to 45 feet deeper. Imagine what the would do to the entire area south of the dam if the it broke open either due to unexpected pressure, or erosion due to water coming over the dam.

Yep, any news about the area would be a good thing for all the freepers and other who read this site so that they can alert their friends and family.

13 posted on 07/04/2002 11:32:42 PM PDT by SamBees
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To: SamBees
where are you getting your info? please keep us updated
14 posted on 07/04/2002 11:36:13 PM PDT by newsperson999
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To: sockmonkey
Castroville is on the Medina River, not the Guadalupe. But the Medina dam is old too (90 years according to Channel 5 News). Hopefully, they are just taking precautions.

Regarding the Guadalupe, I too, was wondering how the spillway would handle 50,000 - 75,000 cfs now coming down the river from Spring Branch. The rate at Comfort earlier today was over 100,000!! Now that the lake is full, everything coming down is going to have to go out the spillway. Your talking about 10,000 cfs, I can't see it being less than 50,000 cfs (though any peak will be flattened by length of time to get through the reservoir and by spreading out of the flow to occupy additional area along the periphery of the lake). A serious situation, no doubt, but I'm sure the engineers are on it. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have large industrial lights set up and turned on to observe the flow at night.

15 posted on 07/04/2002 11:41:47 PM PDT by CedarDave
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Rain in Kerrville is now coming down quite heavily. More water going into the Guadalupe which it certainly doesn't need right now. Looks like it's right on schedule for the 4 AM baseboard invasion into my home. I'm ready to go back to normal. Wondering what the doppler's showing. TXCN was the only channel updating stuff, and now their signal has gone kaput here.
16 posted on 07/04/2002 11:45:00 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: CedarDave
Castroville is on the Medina River, not the Guadalupe.

Thanks. I'm brain dead from staying up all nite watching my baseboards.

17 posted on 07/04/2002 11:51:22 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: sockmonkey
Wondering what the doppler's showing.

Here you go:


18 posted on 07/04/2002 11:56:24 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: newsperson999
Before TXCN went off the air here, they showed Freeper Texana_Red's house in Kerrville floating off down the creek on a home video. I just can't imagine seeing your house, with your pets and worldly goods floating off, and destructing when it hits a tree while you stand by, unable to do a thing to stop it.
19 posted on 07/04/2002 11:57:43 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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Cedar dave,
Max rainfall on the doppler since July 1st now at 30 inches
20 posted on 07/04/2002 11:59:59 PM PDT by newsperson999
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