Jim Quinn interview David Shippers and Janya Davis concerning OKC terrorist connection(6/27/02).

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Thank you!

interesting thanks for the ping

Thanks- I hope it does some good. At least more people will be exposed to the information.

Response to Nita Nupress reply #75:

The prior warning notice Davis mentioned on OReilly (in the transcript Nita posted)was a notice on February 27,1995 which did not list the Murrah Building or OKC as a target and did not mention the "litly whites" the ME types planned to use.

But the relevant and most significant official prior notice from Bodansky to House members (COngressman James Saxon,Repub from New Jersey)and Federal law enforcement was issued on March 3, 1995 (it was not mentioned by Davis on O"Reilly but known to Davis in detail since at least early 1996) which listed the Murrah building as a specific target and which described the lily whites (McVeigh and Nichols?).

Bodansky and Davis deliberately and wrongly sat on the official prior warning notice from 1995 to 2001 and kept it from the trials, the courts, from the OKC county grand Jury and the public all while I , Charles Key ,William Jasper and some of Jaynas own attorneys had urged her FOR YEARS prior to OReilly and after Oreilly in May 2001 to release the specific details of the official prior warning. I spoke to her after the OReilly interview about the official prior warning notice of MArch 3, 1995 which she did not reveal on OReilly and I urged her again at that time to release the specific details even though she would not give me the details.

I repeat, Davis told me several times in 1996 and later that she deliberately kept the official prior warning notice from being known to Stephen Jones and to the McVeigh trial starting in 1996.

You need to listen carefully to the Scippers interview with Jim Quinn where Schippers calls Jayna and tells her on 9/11 that it is time then for her to finally release the details of the official prior warning notice for MArch 3, 1995.

I checked with William Jasper today and his recollection of my account with Jayna Davis handling of the prior warning notice is precisely as I have written it. Jasper found Davis handling of the notice and Davis deliberately driving our own ME witnesses from me, Jasper and Key as morally indefensible. Jasper also agrees that Davis also tried aggressively and improperly to discredit for years evidence of domestic John Does who were FBI informants in the case.

And I repeat, Jayna Davis told me for several years she worked for a US government official (I believe it was Bodansky) from at least 1997 if not earlier until sometime around 2000 while she kept the specific information of the notice from the Grand Jury and the public.

Davis called me many times from 1997 to 2001 to threaten me over publicly discussing the official prior warning notice and FBI agent misconduct even though she never gave me the details but told me it was highly significant for years. During that time she deliberately covered up the official prior warning notice of March 3, 1995 for Bodansky an official of the US government.

In 1999 I arranged for Bodasnky to be interviewed by Jerry Bohnen of KTOK radio in OKC . I was able to get Bohnen to ask Bodansky about prior warning notices on the OKC bombing which Bodansky refused to answer. Davis knew in advance about the Bodansky interview and spoke to me soon afterwards and gleefully told me that her government official Bodasnky was not allowed to discuss official US business especially prior warning notices. She also let me know that my going around her to find out the details of the official prior warning by going to Bodansky via the Bohnen interview would not Succeed. This is another sterling example where Davis was in cover up mode with and for her US government official , Bodansky in 1999 over the official prior warning notice. Davis own attorney (the one close to Inhofe) told me in 1999 that the story would come out in due time but was being delayed for the “right time” due to political considerations of Inhofe and others in Congress. I found this to be disgusting.

I know my side of the story first hand and I am telling the truth. The truth will win out in the end even if it should get confused or improperly revised for a thousand years!

Schippers has let it be known that he is now available for me to call him after he has had my phone number and messages for over two years and deliberately did not return my calls. I suspect he now wants to speak to me about my complaints about Jayna Davis. He can call me and regardless of what he says or tries to do I am not backing off my story one inch. Davis also deliberately and improperly denigrated me to Schippers according to a mutual friend who has known both me and Schippers for years.

In my informed and first hand opinion, Davis improperly and badly handled and blocked the key evidence from the courts and the public and the OK County Grand Jury in the OKC bombing for at over five years while she worked for a US government official at his request because it was too politically "hot to handle" (not only Democrats but Republican Congressmen like James Saxon and Senators like James Inhofe would be in trouble for their knowledge).

I applaud Davis efforts to get part of the story out since May 2001 but I do not applaud her efforts to block the notice info before then and to still continue to attempt to block info about the domestic John Does, culpable FBI agents she knows and to denigrate many other investigators and General Partin who obtained evidence of multiple devices, the ME connections and the domestic John DOes and FBI informants.

Please see reply #85. Thanks.

Any evidence withheld from the McVeigh jury that might have suggested to them that he was not the ringleader of the OKC bombing might have led them not to impose the death penalty. Withholding that evidence may have caused a miscarriage of justice.

Have you seen my reply to you re:Hadayet working for Mercury Air?

Its division called Maytag Aircraft fuels AIR FORCE ONE!

Tulsa, Oklahoma has a node of Mercury.

Did any of the terrors use this re:Murrah?

Wasn't there talk right after 9/11 that the codes for Air Force One had been compromised?

Re 75 & 85: Jayna, Schippers, Bodansky; O'Reilly:

There is more crap layered on this case than a triple-tier wedding cake with J. Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson on top in tutus.

Cutting the deck of Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, The Secret Life of Bill Clinton, Regnery, 1997, to Chapter Five, "Carol Howe", pp 53-75, there is enough to indict the FBI for suppressing prior knowledge several times over.

Carol Howe was the confidential informant under ATF agent Angela Finley who gathered incriminating evidence against Dennis Mahon, Andreas Carl Strassmeir, and Timothy McVeigh as it related to Elohim City.

Strassmeir and Mahon had taken three trips to Oklahoma City in November, 1994; December 1994, and February 1995.

Through Howe's work, the ATF was preparing to raid Elohim City--but was stopped by the FBI February 22, 1995. [page 63].

The rest is the FBI CYA tapeloop of smearing key witnesses and intentionally misspelling proper names, denying, stonewalling, and blocking publication: ABC assistant producer, retired Marine Lt. Col. Roger Charles, spoke out in protest, accusing Peter Jennings of caving in to political pressure. He was fired immediately. [page 72]

It is all too deja vu of the long, rocky trail of FOIA pioneer Harold Weisberg, who spent decades suing the Justice Department and disputing the weaselly lies of the FBI re the smoke and mirrors of "evidence" in the JFK bon voyage party.

It has never been satisfactorily explained how an illegal alien, Andreas Strassmeir, Panzer Lieutenant trained in intelligence, could have "discussed assassinations, bombings and mass shootings" as "direct action against the U.S. government", could cruise on back to Deutchland uber Alice and the rest of the agents in tutus.

The ATF bleating how it heroically broke out of jammed elevators to rescue survivors.

No, Mueller isn't letting the substrate breathe. Bob in New York has repeatedly said Freeh was covered in pizza.

Clinton was facing slumping poll numbers in 1995, yet after April 19, enjoyed an eleven-point rebound, and blamed his Reichstag Fire on hate radio.

This is the FBI which handed over a thousand files on der Felatee's enemies, and arranged for Special Agent Dennis Sculimbrene to just miss having his head severed with a propeller for naming Hillary as the hirer of Craig.

Which brings us back to O'Reilly whose only email to me was in defence of Hillary against the mass-forwarded email in mid-2000 charging her with having defended Black Panther murderers while at Yale Law.

And the New York Times purchases KFOR and wants Jayna Davis' sources--this is too much like Reno wanting the confidential Chinagate informants.

Intelligence, both domestic (FBI) and foreign (CIA), remains obsessed with its own CYA operations while remaining subservient to political considerations.

Cue Seinfeld: Not that there's anything WRONG with that.

I think sooo, maybe.

I'll go google later

I found a mention of compromised codes on google coming from debka.It says that on 9/11, a message using that days codes said that Air Force One was next. That supposedly was when Cheney was whisked into the bunker by SS.I think he would be in the bunker without the messsage.I havnt searched anymore.If the admin put out such an admission,that the codes were broke, then maybe we have some kind of connection to terrors and Mercury re:Air Force One.

Who do you think the real John Doe #2 is?

BDD, thanks for adding your point of view and commentary.

Your words are full of wisdom, Blue Dog. I've been acquainted with you here for several years now, and I've never known you to display any hint of hyperbole, back-biting behavior or unstable personality traits. We've worked together on several threads and you've displayed nothing but professionalism each time. For that reason, I respect your opinion in this matter very much. You are right. It's not about getting credit; it's not about book deals; and it's certainly not about who gets center stage.

This particular issue is about trust and credibility. Those who are trustworthy, stable and who possess more than a potentially superficial "cyber-credibility" have earned an audience with the people who matter. And the people who matter in this are not FReepers -- most of us are nothing but amateur sleuths and keyboard cowboys. The people who matter are the DC insiders who can actually do something about the OKC injustice. People who demand credibility and trustworthiness before they'll even lend an ear. People like Dan Burton and others.

Let me put it this way: When David Shippers speaks, I listen. And David Shippers obviously trusts Jayna Davis, which speaks volumes.

By the way, if Jayna were to appear on this thread to participate in the mudslinging and name-calling, I would no longer deem her credible.

Please dont get mad at me...do I have this right?....The feds knew for years that an ME was John Doe # 2 and didnt tell the public about it?

Clinton and Bush DOJ's knew?

Ashcroft knew when he did his darndest to get the execution over with?

If the answer to all this is yes, then what do we have except a massive cover-up of an Islamic terrorist attack on America at Murrah, whose exposure could have prevented 9/11?