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New sex-abuse bombshell: Time bishop [Adamec of Altoona-Johnstown] comes clean
The Tribune-Democrat ^ | June 23, 2002 | Susan Evans

Posted on 06/24/2002 6:53:00 AM PDT by Polycarp

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To: livius; Antoninus; sandyeggo; frogandtoad; saradippity; maryz; Jeff Chandler; ken5050; Slyfox; ...
I think your points are spot on, livius. It is an apocalyptic time for us when we see so much corruption and evil in the very Church we love with all our hearts.

We are striving against the demon, and we need to be armed with all the tools God has given us in order to withstand and overcome the onslaught of the evil one.

We need to go to confession frequently. We need to assist at Mass anywhere and anyway we can. We need to commit ourselves to daily rosary and/or the Chaplet of the Divine Mercy. We need to step up and give ourselves to corporate works of mercy.

Immediately we need to start saying the "St. Michael the Archangel" prayer at the end of every Mass everywhere in our country. We must do it.

This is of course what our bishops should have said in Dallas but they didn't ask this Irish mom to advise them.

41 posted on 06/24/2002 4:21:52 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: Polycarp
"How the hell is the hospital supposed to run an effective criminal background check on their chaplains ..."

As a practical matter, polycarp, this is indeed very difficult, particularly since it seems to be standard practice to assign a (possibly criminally or civilly liable) priest to a chaplaincy, either in a prison, old age home, or hospital.

Needless to say, this interferes not at all with their illicit activities. But it sure means that they are (a) useless as chaplains and (b) a possible source of liability for the institutions to which they have been assigned. I'd check them out really carefully, and then make it very clear, in writing and fully documented, that you had consulted the bishop and he had provided you with (written) authentication of this priest's suitability for the job. You might talk to your hospital's legal counsel about this.

One of the worst priests I ever knew, whose predilection was, believe it or not, women, was assigned as a chaplain to a special prison ward on Riker's Island (NY) for transvestites and homosexuals. This was supposed to keep him out of trouble, but I always suspected that he was probably carrying on there, too, since I didn't think he was particular about his sex objects. But I also knew that he pursued any female who crossed his threshold: a prisoner's sister, mother, even wife (oddly enough, some of them had wives). I'm sure lawsuits are even now surfacing about this guy.

It's a terrible thing to say, but from what I've seen, if priests are assigned as chaplains, it's because there's a problem. Sometimes it can actually be that they are too conservative and bishops or superiors don't like them (Fr. Fessio and Fr. Buckley). But if they're just ordinary guys who suddenly turn up as chaplains, I'd look at them very closely.


42 posted on 06/24/2002 5:40:33 PM PDT by livius
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To: Siobhan
Immediately we need to start saying the "St. Michael the Archangel" prayer at the end of every Mass everywhere in our country. We must do it.

I LIKE St. Michael! Have you noticed how angels have been so 'feminized' in the last 20 years? In the Bible, whenever an angel appears, what are his first words? FEAR NOT! Well I don't think he'd have to say that if he looked like some of the Victorian confections we see all over the place at Christmas. They may have their place in interior design, but not in the realm of the truly spiritual. The Archangels are there especially as WARRIORS, and we need to ask for their help as much as possible, because we are truly in a battle with the Devil for the Soul of the Church and all her people.

44 posted on 06/24/2002 6:05:11 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
Amen!
45 posted on 06/24/2002 6:06:41 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: Prince Caspian
I tend to agree with your Babylon analogy. We DO have another Babylon in the United States, period. Not just with priests. But with abortions, euthenasia, sex before marriage, living together rather than seeking the Sacrament of Matriomony, sexual indoctrination in the schools...............................and I could go on and on.

Prayer break for me:

For the Pope, the Bishops and the Cardinals, for America: (Please pray with me.)

PRAYER TO ST. MICHAEL

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in the day of Battle; Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, cast into Hell, Satan and all the other evil spirits, who prowl through the world, seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen

46 posted on 06/24/2002 6:12:40 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation
Amen.
47 posted on 06/24/2002 6:17:01 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: Siobhan
observed picking up young boys near 14th Street.

One would assume that more than just homosexuals who pose as priests frequent teen boy prostitutes. Rather curiously fascinating that we don't hear much about their other clients. There's more to this underworld than the depraved clergy heretics.

48 posted on 06/24/2002 6:36:28 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
You are right, Howlingly. There is much more to it in my opinion as well.
49 posted on 06/24/2002 6:38:17 PM PDT by Siobhan
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To: Polycarp
Most people in the area knew most of these cases. They didn't hit the news but a lot of local Catholics stayed away from church or stopped giving to the church because of it.

Adamec was greatly despised by most.

These things were rarely mentioned in the local Catholic paper, but that paper made sure to criticize Rosary groups, novenas, pilgrimages, ignored the Charismatic movement, and praised the enneagram, while allowing PC nuns to teach liberal catholicism to the Confirmation classes.

50 posted on 06/24/2002 6:40:56 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: Siobhan
I'm all for exposing this rot and getting them out of the Church, but it does seem the media is only interested in "outing" homosexual ephebophiles who are errant Catholic clergymen.

Why we are not seeing media coverage of the identities, denominational affiliation, and professional employment of other homosexuals having sex with teenage boys is...well...just a coincidence? [irony alert]

51 posted on 06/24/2002 6:43:54 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: aeiou; LadyDoc; Siobhan
Isn't Adamac the one who had the High Altar of a church distroyed with jackhammers and tossed into the garbage?

Yes.

Part of an altar removed from St. John the Baptist Roman Catholic Church in Northern Cambria lies in a dumpster.

52 posted on 06/24/2002 7:24:21 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: sinkspur
Good advice. I'll make sure that is on the top of our agenda at our next Catholic Taliban meeting.
53 posted on 06/24/2002 7:27:11 PM PDT by Polycarp
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To: sitetest
one was a 441 yr old ex-hairdresser who dyed his hair every other week..."

LOL...make that 41!

55 posted on 06/24/2002 9:12:11 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I grieve for so many boys who have lost their faith in God.
56 posted on 06/25/2002 1:34:41 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: livius
Call it a new Inquisition if you will, but that's what I think is needed now. Strip away the hiding places of the Evil One, who has crawled in and is nesting in the most sacred places of the Church.

Sorry to sound so apocalyptic, but I am becoming more and more convinced that this is simply about sheer evil.


It's interesting to recall that a number of years back, the priest who holds the office of primary exorcist submitted a report to the top level of the Vatican which asserted outright satanism at the highest levels within the Vatican. It got hushed up later.

Still, one can scarcely see such widespread public immorality within an institution without suspecting those at the top. And recall that Episcopal scandal (New York?) where they staged lurid orgies in vestal garments on their altars, apparently the blasphemy of the acts goaded them to greater perversity.

There are plenty of sex scandals in all the churches. The general suspicion which will likely be transferred to all clergy, not merely those of the Roman church, should make us all think twice about how the secular media will use this to create suspicion and distrust of the legitimate churches of the ancient Christian faith.
58 posted on 06/25/2002 12:04:16 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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