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Border governors flex influence, muscle
Arizona Republic ^ | June 23, 2002 | HernĂ¡n Rozemberg

Posted on 06/23/2002 9:46:13 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan

Border governors flex influence muscle

By Hernán Rozemberg
The Arizona Republic
June 23, 2002 12:00:00

Leaders from U.S.-Mexican border states said Saturday that last year's terrorist attacks created unprecedented interest in the region and now is their best chance to influence federal policy in both countries.

Emerging from a series of closed-door meetings at the 20th Border Governors Conference in Phoenix, the representatives from Mexico's six border states said that for 19 years, they've seen little action taken in Mexico City after submitting detailed conference reports. This time, they say, they will insist on getting answers.

Hotly debated issues like the sharing of water and electricity can be worked out only at the federal level, but border governors say they have to stop bureaucracy from getting in the way of major decisions.

"By directly petitioning our federal government, we're making sure our recommendations will be thoroughly examined and that some kind of decision will be made on them," said Fernando Canales Clariond, governor of Nuevo León.

Some border issues are a matter of life and death. The governors decried this summer's record pace of migrant deaths in the desert and renewed their call for the creation of a guest worker program that would provide legal jobs and curb risky border crossings.

Representing Arizona for the last time as she approaches the end of her term in office, Gov. Jane Hull reiterated the need for guest workers but also went further, noting she'd like to see the formal border disappear within two decades.

"Borders have a way of blocking our vision," she said.

"I see a region some day without walls. I envision a region where our children chat in English and Spanish, where we have an equal footing economically and we no longer need to count the bodies of migrants in the desert."

But until and if that change occurs, border governors want to make sure increased border security does not equal decreased cross-border commerce and tourism.

Arizona border towns, whose economies directly depend on Mexicans crossing north each day to shop, are still recovering from financial losses as shoppers disappeared after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: homelandsecurity; illegalimmigration; immigrant; immigrantlist; nwo
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21 posted on 06/23/2002 11:07:02 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Tancredo Fan
Between her and McCain, people in Arizona better wake up. With her Martin Luther King speech reincarnation of vision of self-worship, made of Mexican kids mutualy worshiping AMerican kids, ain't Arizona a promise for a North Korean Goldfish Pond of Joy!

Tyranny is coming to AMerica like a runaway freight train.

22 posted on 06/23/2002 11:07:41 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Brownie74
It's beginning to look that way.
23 posted on 06/23/2002 11:12:22 AM PDT by 4America
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To: Tancredo Fan
"I see a region some day without walls. I envision a region where our children chat in English and Spanish, where we have an equal footing economically and we no longer need to count the bodies of migrants in the desert."

Well,ain't THAT "special"?

As for "who will hire her?",don't worry about that. The above quoted statement insured she will be given a high-paid job with one branch of the ruling US political party,or a highly-paid job with a "pro-New World Order" "think tank" to form policy.

24 posted on 06/23/2002 11:17:09 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: madfly
However, Hull "would be willing to entertain an offer from Bush at the end of her state service."

That's no surprise. They seem eerily to be right in synch in their propensity to be completely out of touch with the wishes of the American people. I don't believe either one of them will be in office after 2004.

25 posted on 06/23/2002 11:17:15 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Geezerette
You have DemocRAT friends? How do you stand their stupidity? I have a RAT relative that I have to contend with, and it isn't easy. Her logic is insane. Besides that, she's a socialist. (Oh, well, I guess illogic, insanity and socialism are all one mixture.)
26 posted on 06/23/2002 11:19:07 AM PDT by Dixielander
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To: madfly
I see you found the report. Good going. This is what the weakling Jane Hull is all about.

There isn't any "labor shortage" in Arizona. Tucson is one of the lowest wage cities in the United States for its size (I know. I'm from there. That's why I left).

Has anyone mentioned to Jane Hull that we don't want to force our children to speak Spanish? The Mexican Caudillos would like that to happen. It would be a victory for them. They will have forced the gringos to bend to their will, and they will see it as subjugation. Which, of course, is why they seethe with hatred when their children have to learn English. But since they can't build a decent society, their children have to come north.

No Americans are pounding through the desert to get to Mexico. No Americans form any significant portion of the population in Mexico, and none hold elective office. The problem of "the border" is all a problem for Mexico, and not the United States. So, why is the so-called governor of Arizona wringing her hands over the problems of another country, another people? They are responsible for their situation. Not us, no matter how much their leaders try to convince everyone of that.

And as far as "no border" in Arizona, when enough Mexicans have pushed their way into Arizona to vote Jane and any other American out of office (voting legally or illegally), there won't be any border.

But then, there won't be an Arizona or a United States.
27 posted on 06/23/2002 11:19:14 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: 4Freedom
I have a vision that one day all of these stealth 'one-worlders" will be put out of office and that their political careers will be over.

Not gonna happen. The trend is towards globalism and corporate gooberments. The election of the stealth Dim Bubba-2 proves that. The only politicians who will be out of work are the ones who are for a sovereign state.

28 posted on 06/23/2002 11:20:49 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Tancredo Fan
Brown and Root or Halliburton will find a place for her.
29 posted on 06/23/2002 11:22:06 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Ahban
What clouds Hull's vision is greed from businessess that want cheap labor and are willing to donate to her to help get it.

Not only that,but the rich also lust after all the cheap domestic help that they don't have to pay taxes or benefits on,or even have to pay minimum wage. The alleged right sees them this way,and the left sees them as a oppressed minority that needs special protection. Between the two of them,the end result is no different.

30 posted on 06/23/2002 11:24:18 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Regulator
So it was you who told me I'd really get a better picture of Jane Hull as a New Worlder if I read that white paper.

You were right. Thanks :)
31 posted on 06/23/2002 11:32:56 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Tancredo Fan
"I see a region some day without walls."

So did Israel. Look what they ended up with.

32 posted on 06/23/2002 11:43:27 AM PDT by sinclair
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To: madfly
Yeah, I couldn't find it the other day when I did the previous post. I read it not too long ago after I saw an article in the Tucson Daily Citizen Mexican referencing it. It took my breath away. It was quite obviously written by the Mexican government and EWIC.
33 posted on 06/23/2002 12:21:27 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Tancredo Fan
Borders have a way of creating a nation. Without borders, nations disappear. I do not recall the citizens of the United States voting to dissolve their nation.
34 posted on 06/23/2002 12:29:30 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: sinclair
So did Israel. Look what they ended up with.

And California Aztlan isn't far behind. It's time for a round-up.

35 posted on 06/23/2002 12:36:03 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
To be fair to Hull, I think she means like the Canadian border. So instead of going on some hysterical rant, just look at the facts. The longest undefended border in the world, Canada and the USA. I also would like to see the day where Mexico is a first world economic power and its people not trying to come here looking for work. We don't have an illegal problem with Canada because it's a economic power.
36 posted on 06/23/2002 12:41:10 PM PDT by VinnyTex
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To: Digger
I know what you mean about the two-party cartel. However, what we really need is candidates who will follow the Constitution in spite of what their constituents want.
37 posted on 06/23/2002 12:42:20 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: VinnyTex; Tancredo Fan
And children will chat in English and Spanish on the Canadian border? Did I miss something?
38 posted on 06/23/2002 1:01:45 PM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Have you ever visited northern Maine. Lots of Maniacs speak fluent French. Quebec.
39 posted on 06/23/2002 1:06:17 PM PDT by VinnyTex
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To: VinnyTex
02-21-01

Dear [RH]:

Thank you for contacting my office regarding the border between Arizona and Mexico. I share your concern about the problems associated with illegal immigration, as well as the prevalence of an unlawful drug trade associated lax border control.

I have the utmost respect for the loyal men and women who patrol and protect the border, but, in my opinion, unwavering delineation of the border is unnecessary and antagonistic to a country which is striving to overcome many of the obstacles which challenge a developing nation like Mexico. Mexico is currently Arizona's primary trading partner. Our strong economy depends on exports to Mexico. I applaud efforts underway in Congress to increase resources for the Immigration and Naturalization Service and United States Customs. I encourage the reinforcement of existing border control agencies by improving technology and employing additional agents. I believe that this is a better resolution to the challenges Arizona faces at the border, rather than strict border demarcation.

Again, thank you for contacting my office.

Sincerely,

Jane Dee Hull
GOVERNOR

JDH/j -END

BTW, Mexico is a hostile nation. Read this poll. Trading with Mexico = trading with ourselves (maquilas genrally assemble things we send there, then send them back, and that doesn't exactly equal 'trade' in my book...Mexicans are too broke to buy much of anything from the U.S.). We have a huge defecit with that dump. Hull is a whacko. The military should be on the border.

40 posted on 06/23/2002 1:11:15 PM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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