Border governors flex influence, muscle

Arizona Republic ^ | June 23, 2002 | Hernán Rozemberg

[Tancredo Fan]

Border governors flex influence muscle

By Hernán Rozemberg
The Arizona Republic
June 23, 2002 12:00:00

Leaders from U.S.-Mexican border states said Saturday that last year's terrorist attacks created unprecedented interest in the region and now is their best chance to influence federal policy in both countries.

Emerging from a series of closed-door meetings at the 20th Border Governors Conference in Phoenix, the representatives from Mexico's six border states said that for 19 years, they've seen little action taken in Mexico City after submitting detailed conference reports. This time, they say, they will insist on getting answers.

Hotly debated issues like the sharing of water and electricity can be worked out only at the federal level, but border governors say they have to stop bureaucracy from getting in the way of major decisions.

"By directly petitioning our federal government, we're making sure our recommendations will be thoroughly examined and that some kind of decision will be made on them," said Fernando Canales Clariond, governor of Nuevo León.

Some border issues are a matter of life and death. The governors decried this summer's record pace of migrant deaths in the desert and renewed their call for the creation of a guest worker program that would provide legal jobs and curb risky border crossings.

Representing Arizona for the last time as she approaches the end of her term in office, Gov. Jane Hull reiterated the need for guest workers but also went further, noting she'd like to see the formal border disappear within two decades.

"Borders have a way of blocking our vision," she said.

"I see a region some day without walls. I envision a region where our children chat in English and Spanish, where we have an equal footing economically and we no longer need to count the bodies of migrants in the desert."

But until and if that change occurs, border governors want to make sure increased border security does not equal decreased cross-border commerce and tourism.

Arizona border towns, whose economies directly depend on Mexicans crossing north each day to shop, are still recovering from financial losses as shoppers disappeared after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

[Tancredo Fan]

Hull is a disgrace. Fortunately she will be out of office later this year. Maybe she'll move to Mexico. I wonder who will hire this ------- when she gets the boot later this year? Guesses, anyone?

E-mail Hull.

[Tancredo Fan]

Looky what Jane Hull has been up to.

[FreedomFriend]

Disgusting. Why is it that such mindless twits hold such sway, and why are Mexicans meeting in the United States. Sickening.

[kitkat]

I suppose Hull is angling for an appointment to the U.N. since she's repeating their leftist slant.

[Dixielander]

Hull is pathetic. Someone has done an excellent job of brainwashing her.

I hope her replacement will have control over his/her mind,and realize their responsiblility to the security of the United States.

[WRhine]

"I see a region some day without walls. I envision a region where our children chat in English and Spanish, where we have an equal footing economically and we no longer need to count the bodies of migrants in the desert."

And everybody will live happily ever after. Needless to say that this woman has no business holding any elective office much less the governorship of AZ. I hope the good people of AZ get things right this time around and elect someone that puts the interests of AZ and America before the interests of Mexico.

[4Freedom]

"...noting she'd like to see the formal border disappear within two decades."

"Borders have a way of blocking our vision," she said.

Did this shrew campaign on her vision of a borderless America?

Was this 'commie' honest, with the voters of Arizona, that the destruction of our national sovereignty was part of her political agenda?

I have a vision that one day all of these stealth 'one-worlders" will be put out of office and that their political careers will be over.

[nothingnew]

"Borders have a way of blocking OUR vision," she said.

Says it all...G-D help Arizona and get this NWO socialist out of government,....and also, please send RAIN to the southwest.

FMCDH

[Brownie74]

I am glad this woman is in AZ and not TX.

My question is---why are people pushing for "the creation of a guest worker program that would provide legal jobs and curb risky border crossings" when we have millions of them here already standing around on OUR street corners looking for work?

If she wants more of them here then let her feed, clothe, house, educate, and provide medical care for them.

This is classic example of the lunatics running the asylum!!

[Geezerette]

We're hoping and praying that Republican Matt Salmon, who term-limited himself out of the US House of Reps. He kept his promise to do so. Quite conservative, and has my vote.

I had lunch with two democrat ladies yesterday, who are going to vote for the Independent (former democrat), a guy named Mahoney, I think. Did my heart good, as Napolitano will get two less votes!! I couldn't convince them to go with Matt Salmon.

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[Digger]

So why are these two idiots even remotely in high state positions?? You can't elect others or are any in the "Two-Party Cartel" different? See why then you must start a new party with the desires OF THE PEOPLE in primary focus.

[Geezerette]

Not only is she a loony-tune on this issue, she wiped out our state surplus left to her by a conservative Governor, with her crazy schemes.

By the way, I agree with your posts on other threads, too!

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[Ahban]

Boreders also have a way of protecting us, our property, our familes and our culture. What clouds Hull's vision is greed from businessess that want cheap labor and are willing to donate to her to help get it.

[Geezerette]

I have been here in AZ since 1973 and have seen the state go liberal in the past twenty years or so.

Californians, East Coasters and misguided Midwesterners coming here have completely changed the political landscape of this state, as well as education, etc.

So very sad.

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[Brownie74]

Boreders also have a way of protecting us, our property, our familes and our culture.

I'm afraid that if you want the above mentioned protected you are going to have to do it yourself. The government has proven that they are not going to do it.

[madfly]

This is from March 1st on the Brookings.org website.

The Arizona Republic reports that Governor Jane Hull, rumored to be a candidate for ambassador to Mexico, has stated her desire to finish her current term which ends in 2002. However, Hull "would be willing to entertain an offer from Bush at the end of her state service."

http://www.appointee.brookings.org/resourcecenter/rumormill.htm

[Brownie74]

Ms. Hull certainly seems to have the qualifications that Bush would like. Open borders!! Bring 'em all up here!!

Bush, Ziglar, and Hull. What a trioka. (sp)

[madfly]

Some excerpts from another Mexico group that Hull is involved with, well, Arizona-Mexico group as long as we still have a border.
http://www.azmc.org/downloads/ arizonas_strategy.doc

Labor Shortages and Illegal Immigration:

Arizona's Three-Pronged Strategy
February 2001

Copyright 2001 by the Arizona-Mexico Commission, Inc.

Author:
Angelyn Pritchard Bayless


Acknowledgements and contributions:
Earlier drafts of this paper benefited greatly from the comments provided by Margie A. Emmermann, Mexico Policy Advisor for Governor Jane Dee Hull, Lisa Daniel Flores, General Counsel to Governor Jane Dee Hull, David Randolph, Border Affairs Liaison, U.S. State Department, and John Gay, Essential Worker Immigration Coalition.

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Clearly, an expanded foreign worker program could be beneficial to both the United States and Mexico and perhaps other Western Hemisphere countries. The idea that a solution must be developed has generated support from President Bush, President Fox, Arizona Senators Jon Kyl and John McCain, Representative Jim Kolbe, Sonora Governor Armando Lopez Nogales and others. In addition, Senator Phil Gramm recently led a five-senator delegation to Mexico to meet with President Fox. The other four senators who participated in this meeting were Pete Domenici, Zell Miller, Michael Crapo and Jim Bunning. Senator Gramm returned from this meeting with strong declarations of support for a new guest worker program and plans to introduce legislation in the near future. Members of the U.S. congressional Hispanic Caucus, including Representative Ed Pastor, have also traded views with President Fox on these issues. At the same time, industry groups are coming together to develop their own version of a solution. These powerful indicators show that now is the time for a true bi-partisan effort to develop a plan and move legislation.
______________________________ __________
INFORMATION SOURCES AND REFERENCES

Lowell, Lindsay and Rodolfo O. De la Garza. "The Developmental Role of Remittances in U.S. Latino Communities and in Latin American Countries." Georgetown Institute for the Study of International Migration. June 2000.

Martin, Philip. 1999. The Mexican Crisis and Mexico-U.S. Migration. In Max Castro Ed. 1999. Transnational Realities and Nation States: Trends in International Migration and Immigration Policies in the Americas. Miami. North-South Center Press.

Migration between Mexico and the United States Bi-national Study on Migration Report, Commission on Immigration Reform (USA) and Secretaria de Relaciones Exteriores (Mexico) 1997

Cross Border Health Insurance, California HealthCare Foundation and Healthcare Redesign International. 2000.

Essential Worker Immigration Coalition Website Research http://ewic.org/

Georgetown Institute for the Study of International Migration Website Research

Social Security Administration Website Research

Immigration and Naturalization Website Research

United States Department of Labor Website Research

UC Davis Migration Studies Website Research

Additional information and assistance provided by:
American Immigration Lawyers Association
Donna Lipinski, Immigration Attorney
Dr. Jim Holt, McGinnis, Norris and Williams Government Relations firm
Dr. Philip Martin, UC Davis
Christopher Brelje, Immigration Attorney with Brelje and Associates, PLC
Health Net Representatives
INS Phoenix District Office and Western Region Staff
John Gay, Essential Worker Immigration Coalition
Manuel García y Griego
Lutheran Immigration Service -- provided various articles and position statements
Mexican Embassy and SECOFI
Mexican Secretariat of Foreign Relations officials
Mexican states of Sonora, Jalisco and Zacatecas (Zacatecan Institute of Migration)
Nick Surriel, Immigration Attorney
Senator Jon Kyl's staff
Tucson Sector Border Patrol Officials
U.S. State Department and U.S. Consulates in Monterrey and Guatemala
U.S. Dept. of Labor Officials
Various industry representatives
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Appendix I
EWIC
Essential Worker Immigration Coalition

(EWIC is Agenda 21 crap, someone in forum directed me to this whitepaper a few weeks back, but just found it on my own)Parentheses mine.

MEMBERS (as of January 8, 2001)
American Health Care Association
American Hotel & Motel Association
American Immigration Lawyers Association
American Meat Institute
American Road & Transportation Builders Association
American Nursery & Landscape Association
Associated Builders and Contractors
Associated General Contractors
Building Service Contractors Association International
The Brickman Group, Ltd.
Carlson Hotels Worldwide and Radisson
Carlson Restaurants Worldwide and TGI Friday's
Cracker Barrel Old Country Store
Harborside Healthcare Corporation
Ingersoll-Rand
International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions
International Mass Retail Association
Manufactured Housing Institute
Nath Companies
National Association for Home Care
National Association of Chain Drug Stores
National Association of Home Builders
National Association of RV Parks & Campgrounds
National Council of Chain Restaurants
National Retail Federation
National Restaurant Association
National Roofing Contractors Association
National Tooling & Machining Association
National School Transportation Association
Outdoor Amusement Business Association
Resort Recreation & Tourism Management
Truckload Carriers Association
US Chamber of Commerce
Walt Disney World

[lavaroise]

"Borders have a way of blocking our vision," she said.

No they don't, they are a way of making visible our jurisdiction which is far different from Mexico's.

Oh, and worship of her vision seem a little bit sect like kookish. Why didn't Janet Reno storm her compound instead Davidians' in Waco, TX?