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(Oliver) Stone to Israel -- leave the West Bank (BARF ALERT!)
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| 6/19/02
| Army Archerd
Posted on 06/20/2002 12:13:49 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
Archerd: Stone to Israel -- leave the West Bank Wed Jun 19,11:02 PM ET By Army Archerd, Daily Variety Senior Columnist
HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - With yet another suicide bombing in Jerusalem Wednesday night -- the second in that city in two days -- I thought it was time to talk to Oliver Stone about his documentary on Yasser Arafat ( news - web sites).
He said he is editing the Canal Plus-financed film for TV with no outlet yet set in the U.S. He is also at work on his theatrical feature about Fidel Castro ( news - web sites), whom he also interviewed -- and says he has 30 hours of film with him. Stone was not able to interview Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon ( news - web sites) after his interview with Arafat in his Ramallah compound -- because of the timing -- but says he has spoken to three former Israeli prime ministers.
Israel is concerned about Stone's documentary, says an article in the Jerusalem Post by Herb Keinon, which noted, "If (the) documentary on Yasser Arafat is as close to reality as were his movies on John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon, Israel has real reason for concern."
But Stone tells me, "I take no position on (Israel-Palestine). People think I'm pro one or the other."
Among his many interviews, he said, were those with suicide bombers, and he told me he "understands why they feel the way they do." But he also reminded, "I'm against violence in these matters. I'm against suicide bombers -- they kill innocent people."
He quickly added, "The (Jewish) settlements (on the West Bank) -- they are something else. The Israelis have no business in the West Bank. The settlements have to be gotten out of the West Bank."
He likened some of the arrivals in the West Bank to "vigilantes of the Old West in America."
"We need a third power (the U.N.?) to patrol the area, as was done in the '70s in the confrontations between the Turks and Greeks."
Stone did not put any credence into the (documented) reports that the Palestine Authority's choice of armed struggle is a strategic means of realizing the establishment of a Palestinian state in the territories occupied by Israel since 1967.
When I also told him of the education of Palestinian youths in an anti-Israel atmosphere and the glory of suicide bombing, he noted of the Arab-Israel tensions, "The memories are long as are the grudges and feuds."
While editing these two subjects (Arafat and Castro) Stone also is writing the script of another war between the East and the West, "Alexander the Great" for Intermedia. It's a project in which he has been immersed since the '80s, he reminded me. "It's now time to decide whether to do it -- and I feel like I'm ready."
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To: grlfrnd
Mr. Stone is reality challenged.
To: grlfrnd
"The Israelis have no business in the West Bank. The settlements have to be gotten out of the West Bank." Ok, just stop the suicide bombing, all other forms of terrorism, establish a democratic government for the Palestinians that will negotiate in good faith, and perhaps we can do something. Otherwise, take a hike.
To: sheik yerbouty
To: grlfrnd
His late dad was Jewish and a pretty hardboiled Wall Street type. Dad would probably puke if he heard the "wisdom" that comes out of sonny boy's mouth these days.
What is this love affair all about? That the left has with any savage movement for "national liberation"? That makes them cheerleaders for thugs, psychopaths and murderers?
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posted on
06/20/2002 12:50:19 AM PDT
by
dennisw
To: dennisw
I would like to ask: What's with the Hollywood crowd becoming such authorities on foreign and domestic affairs? With their record of moral irrelevance, now they all seem to be masters of any problem that arises. They deal with so many fantasies in their work, their comments usually reflect the same.
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posted on
06/20/2002 1:19:14 AM PDT
by
meenie
To: grlfrnd
Stone has not made a meaningful film since Platoon (1986). Everything since has been crap. He has long been irrelevant.
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posted on
06/20/2002 1:30:19 AM PDT
by
Drew68
To: monkeyshine
Smokin it? I think he's full of it. This man is 99 and 2/3rds percent corn beef hash. I think the part between the ears is rotting too. Stone, is an appropriate name. This guy has all the mental acuity of a stone.
Yep he has no ax to grind here. He's not on one side or the other. He'll just make Arafat look like an Arab Mandella and Israel like just another terrorist state, no better or worse than the PLO. Of course, that's the best this could turn out. God forbid he should approach the worst. If he does that, he deserves to be hung for 48 hours by the family jewels.
To: grlfrnd; MeeknMing
But Stone tells me, "I take no position on (Israel-Palestine). People think I'm pro one or the other."
Among his many interviews, he said, were those with suicide bombers, and he told me he "understands why they feel the way they do." But he also reminded, "I'm against violence in these matters. I'm against suicide bombers -- they kill innocent people."
He quickly added, "The (Jewish) settlements (on the West Bank) -- they are something else. The Israelis have no business in the West Bank. The settlements have to be gotten out of the West Bank."
He likened some of the arrivals in the West Bank to "vigilantes of the Old West in America."
"We need a third power (the U.N.?) to patrol the area, as was done in the '70s in the confrontations between the Turks and Greeks."
Stone did not put any credence into the (documented) reports that the Palestine Authority's choice of armed struggle is a strategic means of realizing the establishment of a Palestinian state in the territories occupied by Israel since 1967.
When I also told him of the education of Palestinian youths in an anti-Israel atmosphere and the glory of suicide bombing, he noted of the Arab-Israel tensions, "The memories are long as are the grudges and feuds."
Lucky for us he isn't choosing sides
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posted on
06/20/2002 3:42:49 AM PDT
by
TxBec
To: DoughtyOne
Smokin it? I think he's full of it. You mean, full of shit? Agree. He always was.
Even his best film, "Platoon", betrays Stone's eagerness to be reckoned a tough guy - and the real tough guys just are. Same story with all that lefty self-hating Jewish peaceniks.
It's a problem for them to be Jewish, so they follow the maxim of Joseph Stalin - no man, no problem - and squawk "Peace now!"... meaning "Suicide now!".
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posted on
06/20/2002 4:19:39 AM PDT
by
Neophyte
To: grlfrnd
The REAL world to Oliver Stone: Go away and make more FANTASY movies that you pawn off as fact.
To: grlfrnd
(Oliver) Stone to Israel -- leave the West Bank AMERICA TO STONE -- LEAVE THE U.S.A.!!
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posted on
06/20/2002 4:25:13 AM PDT
by
Elkiejg
To: grlfrnd
At least we now know that Ted Turner isn't the only "celeb" with brain damage. But we knew this guy hated democracy already. Someone please tell Mr. Stone he could head Castro's Dept. of Propaganda without any problem at all.
To: grlfrnd
Why do people in that town think people shive a ghit about their pithy little opinions ?
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posted on
06/20/2002 4:57:16 AM PDT
by
ChadGore
To: sheik yerbouty
Look at all the land there is on the West Bank and yet they complain about a few settlements, that incidentally have been there historically. Arabs are allowed to live in Jewish territory, but Palestinians and Arabs won't let Jews live in their territory -- amazing hypocrisy.
What is really going on is this: The Palestinians don't want to work the land and invest time and sweat and labor to build farms like the Jews have done. They want the Jews to do the work and when it is finished then they want it.
I say that every time there is a terrorist attack, Israel should demolish every Palestinian building within a half mile of the Israeli border, then a mile , then a mile and a half until there is no Palestinian building left standing on the West Bank.
The West Bank is such a historic part of Israel that the land itself will not produce for its interlopers. The Jews have paid for it over and over with their blood, sweat, tears, lives, good will efforts for peace, and patience --
It is time they take control of it and administer it the way it should be -- the EU, US State Dept, PA and Islamic nations be damned.
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posted on
06/20/2002 5:04:53 AM PDT
by
Woodkirk
To: grlfrnd
"...I'm against suicide bombers -- they kill innocent people." Such amazing powers of observation.
To: grlfrnd
Evidently Clinton et.al. put enough credence into the garbage that the hollywood types spew to think that they are gifted statesmen now.
To: dennisw; Neophyte
didn't know Stone was Jewish; do you also know whether he's bisexual or homosexual?
i've read about him being with guys.
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posted on
06/20/2002 6:21:39 AM PDT
by
1234
To: All
Isn't it wonderful to wake up to advice from a hashed out geek?? Hollywood never quits and this takes the cake considering the bombings in the last two days with Arafat telling us (in English) to stop, and turning around and telling his own people ("good work") !! People like Stone should be given a one way ticket and retreve his passport when he goes. He certainly isn't needed here and his work stinks!
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posted on
06/20/2002 6:31:20 AM PDT
by
cousair
To: All
It might not be a bad idea to put him on the same plane (out) with TED TURNER??
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posted on
06/20/2002 6:33:16 AM PDT
by
cousair
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