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Remove Confederate flag? Panhandle city must decide
Orlando Slantnel ^ | 12 June 2002 | AP

Posted on 06/12/2002 7:48:50 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

CRESTVIEW -- The NAACP wants the Confederate battle flag removed from a memorial on city property that honors Florida's last Civil War veteran, who died in 1957.

Sabu Williams, local chapter president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, on Monday likened the flag to the Berlin Wall, contending it represents a wall of terror, hatred, murder, bigotry and shame.

"The heritage of the Confederate battle flag is that it was meant to divide," Williams told the City Council. "Today, we should be looking at things that bind us, not divide us."

The council delayed a decision until June 24 after listening to Williams and some of about 70 other residents who packed its chambers. Each side was given 10 minutes.

Martin Barker, representing the Florida Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, said the flag is a sign of history, not hate. "History is a fact," Barker said. "We can't change it, but we can learn from it. If we bury it, we will deprive our children and our grandchildren of that fact."

The memorial was put up along State Road 85, one of Crestview's main thoroughfares, a year after William "Uncle Bill" Lundy died in this Panhandle city. An earlier effort to remove the flag failed in 1996.

Williams said he had no issue with the memorial, just the flag.

One of Lundy's grandsons, Hayden Lundy, argued to keep the flag, saying his grandfather never hated anyone. "Uncle Bill Lundy was a loving man," he said.

The NAACP has organized protests and economic boycotts in other places where it has fought to bring down the Confederate battle flag.

"We will do what we have to do," Williams said. "We will not stop until we have succeeded in removing that flag."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: confederateflag; crestview; dixielist; florida; heritage; honor; naacpcriminals
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Support Uncle Bill. Honor him and let him rest in peace - the NAACP is digging up bones....literally.
1 posted on 06/12/2002 7:48:52 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: shuckmaster; 4ConservativeJustices; one2many; billbears; ConstitutionDay; Alas Babylon!...
Contact the Crestview City Council - show your support

Crestview
P.O. Drawer 1209
Crestview, FL 32536
(850) 682-3812
Fax: (850) 689-4575
Mayor: George Whitehurst

City Council 682-6131 Board of County Commissioners 689-5030

2 posted on 06/12/2002 7:52:53 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Williams said he had no issue with the memorial, just the flag.

Yet. Remove that flag, the memorial will be gone within 10 years. Bumped and called

3 posted on 06/12/2002 7:56:49 AM PDT by billbears
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To: stainlessbanner
Oh for God's sake. It makes you wonder what they will blame all their troubles on once the last flag has been removed?
4 posted on 06/12/2002 8:02:05 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stainlessbanner
When the NAACP is worried about something as minor as this then the time has come when they have nothing to do with their time.
5 posted on 06/12/2002 8:04:17 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: stainlessbanner
"The heritage of the Confederate battle flag is that it was meant to divide,"

Beep. Circle takes the square. The heritage of the Confederate Battle Flag was to facilitate the rallying of troops on a confused, smoke-shrouded battlefield.

6 posted on 06/12/2002 8:04:48 AM PDT by Junior
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To: stainlessbanner
You never give in to a bully. What will be next? The US flag? The Pledge? Dixie Chicks?
7 posted on 06/12/2002 8:05:23 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: stainlessbanner
"The heritage of the Confederate battle flag is that it was meant to divide," Williams told the City Council. "Today, we should be looking at things that bind us, not divide us."

So why don't they let people have a choice, rather than dictating what people are allowed to have and not have? Who are they to rule others lives? It creates hate that divides.

"We will not stop until we have succeeded in removing that flag."

The NAACP is oppressive. They're forcing others to accept and obey their opinions against their free will.
They're actually creating the hate they claim to be against.
This is the same method of creating hate the homos use - Create hate, cry "victim", and get special elitist status and special laws for protection.

8 posted on 06/12/2002 8:05:53 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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Yet. Remove that flag, the memorial will be gone within 10 years. Bumped and called

My first thought. Exactly right.

Someone needs to change the conversation to, "why does Kweisi Mfume hate white people so much that he changed his own name and goes around trying to take down historical monuments?"

9 posted on 06/12/2002 8:09:55 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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Well they're going to have to come to my house and take it down off the flagpole if they want to get to the last one. Of course it's the National Flag and not the Naval Jack. Wonder if that one's considered offensive as well
10 posted on 06/12/2002 8:10:25 AM PDT by billbears
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To: stainlessbanner
This is odd to be happening in Crestview. The town has a population of maybe 30,000 and is located northwest of Panama City and about an hour and a half east of Pensacola. Its a real rural area - not the type of place where the NAACP usually pulls these stunts. Interesting.
11 posted on 06/12/2002 8:10:46 AM PDT by FreeTally
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Oh for God's sake. It makes you wonder what they will blame all their troubles on once the last flag has been removed?

You. Kweisi Mfume will always have a problem as long as Caucasians are still around.

12 posted on 06/12/2002 8:13:39 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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Yeah, removing that flag will really make a difference. It will solve all the black's problems.
13 posted on 06/12/2002 8:15:20 AM PDT by Contra
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To: FreeTally
This is odd to be happening in Crestview. The town has a population of maybe 30,000 and is located northwest of Panama City and about an hour and a half east of Pensacola. Its a real rural area - not the type of place where the NAACP usually pulls these stunts.

Is the State of Florida having statewide elections later this year? Hmmmm?

Bingo.

Dangle, dangle, dangle.

14 posted on 06/12/2002 8:16:05 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: billbears
Thank you for calling, BillBears. I'm going to call at lunchtime - I'll post the response after a while.
15 posted on 06/12/2002 8:16:22 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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Although I disagree with voting on this issue, at least the council is hearing arguments from both sides. Jeb Bush, King Roy Barnes, and Jim Hodges removed Confederate flags (not just battle flags) from displays in each of their states WITHOUT A VOTE.

In this case, I feel we should honor a fallen brother by leaving his memorial untouched - there ought not to be a vote; let Uncle Bill rest in peace.

16 posted on 06/12/2002 8:21:54 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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Yeah, removing that flag will really make a difference. It will solve all the black's problems.

Yeh, and a rainbow flag will go up to take it's place.
Only in America.

17 posted on 06/12/2002 8:23:07 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: stainlessbanner
Why would anyone want a flag representing seditious losers anyway?
18 posted on 06/12/2002 8:24:56 AM PDT by Vladiator
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Why would anyone want a flag representing seditious losers anyway?

They love to "waller" in it.

Walt

19 posted on 06/12/2002 8:27:47 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: stainlessbanner; Eagle Eye
I live in Crestview, and intend to attend the meeting. This has not received very much local attention.
20 posted on 06/12/2002 8:29:36 AM PDT by Lanman
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