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House Dems Sue Bush Over ABM Treaty
Associated Press ^ | 11 June 2002 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/11/2002 2:02:54 PM PDT by Asmodeus

WASHINGTON (AP) - Thirty-one House members filed suit against President Bush Tuesday in an effort to block the president from withdrawing from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.

The United States officially leaves the treaty on Thursday, six months after Bush announced his intentions to do so. The Pentagon plans an earth-breaking ceremony on Saturday at Fort Greely, Alaska, to begin construction on the first portion of a new missile interceptor system.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, the lead plaintiff, said the president does not have the authority to unilaterally withdraw from a treaty and should first seek the consent of Congress. ``The Constitution of the United States is being demolished and we need to challenge that in court,'' he said.

The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, also names Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell as defendants. The plaintiffs are all Democrats, except for one independent who usually votes with Democrats.

It states that while the Constitution is silent on the role of Congress in treaty terminations, treaties have the status of ``supreme law of the land'' equivalent to federal laws and that laws can be repealed only by an act of Congress.

``I am troubled that many in Congress appear willing to cede our constitutional responsibility on this matter to the executive branch,'' said Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis. He tried unsuccessfully Monday to bring a resolution to the Senate floor stating that the president cannot withdraw from the treaty without Senate approval.

Kucinich last week tried to get the House to vote on a similar resolution, but House Republicans unanimously rejected a motion to bring the issue to a vote. GOP lawmakers generally support the administration's decision to withdraw from the treaty, which prohibited the United States and the Soviet Union from building major missile defenses and has been an impediment to the administration's plans to move ahead with a missile defense system.

``This is so far out of touch,'' said Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., a longtime proponent of a missile defense system. ``The end of the ABM treaty marks a significant milestone'' enabling the Pentagon to adjust to post-Cold War changes and emerging threats, he said.

The lead lawyer for the House lawmakers, Peter Weiss, said they are asking the court for expedited treatment of their suit. But he said that even if the court does not act by the Thursday withdrawal date, a later decision agreeing that the president must first get congressional consent could be retroactive.

In House debate last week, Republicans argued that past presidents have terminated dozens of treaties without consulting Congress. Kucinich pointed to an 1835 House vote blocking President Jackson from pulling out of a treaty with France.

In 1979 the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, R-Ariz., sued President Carter over his decision to terminate a mutual defense treaty with Taiwan when he established diplomatic relations with the Beijing government. The Supreme Court, without ruling on the constitutional issue, vacated or threw out an appeals court ruling in favor of Carter and ordered it sent back for reconsideration. Four of the justices said it was a political matter that should be decided between Congress and the president.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abmtreaty; constitution

1 posted on 06/11/2002 2:02:55 PM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus
kiss my (_|_), dems
2 posted on 06/11/2002 2:04:43 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Asmodeus
Too bad nobody gives a crap. Stupid demorats
3 posted on 06/11/2002 2:05:07 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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4 posted on 06/11/2002 2:05:14 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Asmodeus
Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, the lead plaintiff, said the president does not have the authority to unilaterally withdraw from a treaty and should first seek the consent of Congress.

Kucinich loses. The withdrawal clause is already in the treaty by consent of Congress. Permission to withdraw is already granted from the instant the treaty was signed.

5 posted on 06/11/2002 2:07:32 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Asmodeus
Who's the judge on this?

That treaty needs to die.

6 posted on 06/11/2002 2:07:36 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Asmodeus
Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio,

Boy Blunder couldn't keep a river from catching on fire.

7 posted on 06/11/2002 2:08:03 PM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Asmodeus,Alamo-Girl,OKCSubmariner,Rightwing2,JohnHuang2
This should prove to be a laugh, if it weren't for all those dang Clinton-appointed judges who don't give a rip for the rule of stare decisis.
8 posted on 06/11/2002 2:09:07 PM PDT by Paul Ross
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To: Asmodeus
The House does not ratify treaties. The only ones who have standing to sue would be senators.
9 posted on 06/11/2002 2:09:28 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Asmodeus
Since treaties are ratified by the Senate, how does anyone in the House have standing to bring the suit?
10 posted on 06/11/2002 2:09:56 PM PDT by 1L
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To: Asmodeus
Translation: Dems are going to lose income $$$ in their areas.

This has been brewing for awhile behind the scenes. I smell a Clinton.

11 posted on 06/11/2002 2:10:04 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RightWhale; Tuco-bad; lazamataz; Dog Gone
"Kucinich loses. The withdrawal clause is already in the treaty by consent of Congress. Permission to withdraw is already granted from the instant the treaty was signed."

This desperation tactic is hillarious!

12 posted on 06/11/2002 2:15:51 PM PDT by Southack
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To: Texaggie79
Hahaha, reminds me of the 'hubby entertaining the guests' picture from last week's "Slug On The Sofa-Male Inaction Figure" thread. BTW, why the heck was that thread pulled, it was about the funniest thread around here in the last month? Some crybaby guy offended?
13 posted on 06/11/2002 2:18:06 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Texaggie79
Ha, I found it, 12th photo down. Guess it was a duplicate that I had posted to that was deleted.
14 posted on 06/11/2002 2:21:41 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Asmodeus
Duplicate post locked.
15 posted on 06/11/2002 2:25:57 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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